The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lady Atia]

I'm level 70 with 346 in most slots and the bis tinker gems/ all epic gems and I'm getting oneshot in heroic as a tank - it's absolutely bugged

Tooltips state a certain value and it's actually hitting like 10x harder

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"Tokenised"

Oh you're one of those

Please don't reply to me again alt account

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A few item levels isn't going to stop boss abilities that are hitting for tens of millions and trash mobs that are hitting for hundreds of thousands on normal white attacks

Sooo, we now tried the raids with my guild - Mogushan normal is a joke, after that we went into ToT and got hardstuck on Animus haha.

[KainneAbsolute]

how you level fast in remix?

[Vakir]

how you level fast in remix?

Faster and faster as you go by design. The cloak upgrades in that manner.

Alts get more threads as you hit higher thread count achievements.

[Raetary]

how you level fast in remix?

You play the game, you get xp threads which upgrade your cloak.
Eventually you get a high enough xp bonus to breeze through lvls.

[Ksgrip]

I'm level 70 with 346 in most slots and the bis tinker gems/ all epic gems and I'm getting oneshot in heroic as a tank - it's absolutely bugged

Tooltips state a certain value and it's actually hitting like 10x harder

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"Tokenised"

Oh you're one of those

Please don't reply to me again alt account

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A few item levels isn't going to stop boss abilities that are hitting for tens of millions and trash mobs that are hitting for hundreds of thousands on normal white attacks

There is no alt account lol

And it is irrelevant whether you are offended or not by other’s opinions. If you wanted to be impervious to it why even be in a forum?

[Ersula]

You play the game, you get xp threads which upgrade your cloak.
Eventually you get a high enough xp bonus to breeze through lvls.

It feels super weird that you actually spend time on levels the longest at the beginning, the opposite of normal retail leveling. The only bad side to this is about half the specs in the game feel like garbage at low levels.

[Ksgrip]

The whole point of my post was that I wasn't tryna make it about her being a minority. :/

Sure. I also agree they are giving them too many things in common and too much back and forth for it to be about nothing. They are setting them up

[milkmustache]

Bit of a stretch to confirm Undermine based only on that. Not to even mention Titans, when third expansion is supposed to focus on them.

That's only a portion of the Undermine confirmation. Gazlowe and the Venture Co.'s involvement is another. The smoking gun of course being the datamined icon named "goblinraid", similar to the underground and Emerald Dream icons datamined early in Dragonflight.

[Cherry123]

There is no doubt about it. She is so heavily tokenised that any other option than being a central figure was all but discarded

1 armed, 1 eyed half elf black woman. It’s like she collects minority points. Of course she is going to be the queen lmao

Welcome Captain Obvious! Anduin is also woke character, and if they become a couple, a matrix disruption may occur! There is a limit to everything, even the agenda.

They will never become a couple, that's 100%

But she will overthrow the tyrant dork from the throne of Avaloren and become Arathi Queen 100%

Anduin will never have a girlfriend, for some reason the developers don't want to give him a girlfriend. Perhaps they think Anduin's tears won't be as pure when he loses his virginity.

[Baraden]

Sooo, we now tried the raids with my guild - Mogushan normal is a joke, after that we went into ToT and got hardstuck on Animus haha.

Try a raid with only 70s and get back to me

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Welcome Captain Obvious! Anduin is also woke character, and if they become a couple, a matrix disruption may occur! There is a limit to everything, even the agenda.

They will never become a couple, that's 100%

But she will overthrow the tyrant dork from the throne of Avaloren and become Arathi Queen 100%

Anduin will never have a girlfriend, for some reason the developers don't want to give him a girlfriend. Perhaps they think Anduin's tears won't be as pure when he loses his virginity.

Do you even think about your posts or do you just chuck buzzwords out for fun?

I gurantee you can't even actually explain what you mean by "woke"

[Joshuaj]

Bit of a stretch to confirm Undermine based only on that. Not to even mention Titans, when third expansion is supposed to focus on them.

This is an underground expac, I'd be shocked if we DIDN'T see the Undermine this expac. Like, it should at least be the 11.1 Megadungeon.

[Chickat]

Roadmap and MoP Remix duration still indicated late August/early September.

Yeah, prepatch is typically 3 weeks. Guessing 1 day to 1week from MoP end to Prepatch.

Prepatch date- Either August 20th or August 27th.
TWW official launch either Sept 10th or 17th with headstart the friday before.

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Wat?

Why would an S1 mech KSM mount (which is 100% Earthen design) indicate goblins and Undermine in S2?

There was a datamined raid item called 11.1 Goblin raid. Undermine is basically confirmed unless that was a red herring.

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It feels super weird that you actually spend time on levels the longest at the beginning, the opposite of normal retail leveling. The only bad side to this is about half the specs in the game feel like garbage at low levels.

The first 20 something levels of BM hunter is awful. Kinda regretting going hunter.

[Lady Atia]

Try a raid with only 70s and get back to me

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Do you even think about your posts or do you just chuck buzzwords out for fun?

I gurantee you can't even actually explain what you mean by "woke"

We were max level when we tried the raids? That said, we are a mythic CE guild, and as I said, ToT normal felt more like early mythic bosses and we were hardstuck on the Animus fight (had like 6 tries and after that our raid time was over^^). Durumu, Megaera (first boss where we had to 3 heal) and the bridge after the first boss were the other problematic bosses.

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Yeah, prepatch is typically 3 weeks. Guessing 1 day to 1week from MoP end to Prepatch.

Prepatch date- Either August 20th or August 27th.
TWW official launch either Sept 10th or 17th with headstart the friday before.

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There was a datamined raid item called 11.1 Goblin raid. Undermine is basically confirmed unless that was a red herring.

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The first 20 something levels of BM hunter is awful. Kinda regretting going hunter.

That's an issue of leveling a BM hunter though, nothing to do with remix. You really need beastcleave otherwise running dungeons won't be fun at all. Also, current retail BM really need both the 4 piece and high enough haste to play smooth, one which you can't have and the second you prolly don't have yet.

[KainneAbsolute]

The clue was doing 2 raids. However, some fights took many trys.

Then, doing quests, I was able to gain level fast. I recommend the quest of the Klaxxi. There are many quests together.

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The dialogue of Korven the Prime is interesting.

"Ah yes. One does not forget the taste of amber.
Back when the world was still young, the first kypari trees bloomed.
From the trees, the amber flowed and nurtured us. Kyparite, we called it, the lifeblood of the earth.
It healed our wounds and made us bold. It tasted like sweetness and fire, and gave us strength to conquer all the lesser races.
Many were the threats to our race after the usurpers remade the world. Narrow was the path ahead.
It was I who suggested our greatest warriors be cast in amber to sleep, to be awakened at the swarm's greatest times of need.
It was the sleep from which one could never awake. A great risk. A great sacrifice. But necessary.
Thus, I was the first Paragon. This is why, I am the Prime.
And now, the Klaxxi call us to battle. Now, I am awakened."

Do you think the trees extracted Azerite?

[Nymrohd]

The clue was doing 2 raids. However, some fights took many trys.

Then, doing quests, I was able to gain level fast. I recommend the quest of the Klaxxi. There are many quests together.

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The dialogue of Korven the Prime is interesting.

"Ah yes. One does not forget the taste of amber.
Back when the world was still young, the first kypari trees bloomed.
From the trees, the amber flowed and nurtured us. Kyparite, we called it, the lifeblood of the earth.
It healed our wounds and made us bold. It tasted like sweetness and fire, and gave us strength to conquer all the lesser races.
Many were the threats to our race after the usurpers remade the world. Narrow was the path ahead.
It was I who suggested our greatest warriors be cast in amber to sleep, to be awakened at the swarm's greatest times of need.
It was the sleep from which one could never awake. A great risk. A great sacrifice. But necessary.
Thus, I was the first Paragon. This is why, I am the Prime.
And now, the Klaxxi call us to battle. Now, I am awakened."

Do you think the trees extracted Azerite?

More importantly, while the Mantid worship an Old God, don't they look more like a Life-based civilization?

[Eldryth]

The clue was doing 2 raids. However, some fights took many trys.

Then, doing quests, I was able to gain level fast. I recommend the quest of the Klaxxi. There are many quests together.

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The dialogue of Korven the Prime is interesting.

"Ah yes. One does not forget the taste of amber.
Back when the world was still young, the first kypari trees bloomed.
From the trees, the amber flowed and nurtured us. Kyparite, we called it, the lifeblood of the earth.
It healed our wounds and made us bold. It tasted like sweetness and fire, and gave us strength to conquer all the lesser races.
Many were the threats to our race after the usurpers remade the world. Narrow was the path ahead.
It was I who suggested our greatest warriors be cast in amber to sleep, to be awakened at the swarm's greatest times of need.
It was the sleep from which one could never awake. A great risk. A great sacrifice. But necessary.
Thus, I was the first Paragon. This is why, I am the Prime.
And now, the Klaxxi call us to battle. Now, I am awakened."

Do you think the trees extracted Azerite?

My guess would be that it's the blood of Y'shaarj. The Mantids did worship him, and with Saronite we have a precedent for mining the blood of an Old God as an ore. Since Xal'atath is supposedly gathering the blood of the Old Gods, maybe we'll see it come up in TWW.

[huth]

There was a datamined raid item called 11.1 Goblin raid. Undermine is basically confirmed unless that was a red herring.

Not at all. All that confirms is that there were plans for a Goblin-focused raid that progressed far enough that somebody made an item. Whether they are still being pursued or that raid has any connection to Undermine beyond it also being Goblin related is not something you can conclude from that.

It might just be us raiding a Venture Co. operation in Khaz Algar, if it is still being developed.

[Makorus]

Not at all. All that confirms is that there were plans for a Goblin-focused raid that progressed far enough that somebody made an item. Whether they are still being pursued or that raid has any connection to Undermine beyond it also being Goblin related is not something you can conclude from that.

It might just be us raiding a Venture Co. operation in Khaz Algar, if it is still being developed.

People always twist their minds to invalidate all the filenames and development info, and it's always true. People thought that Kultiras file name didn't mean anything, people thought the mention of Zaralek Caverns didn't mean anything, people thought emeralddreamoutdoor didn't mean anything, people thought the datamined Aug quest didn't mean anything.

If it's far enough along to have icons or a presence in the game, yeah, it'll probably happen. There will be a goblin raid. There is no question about it. Undermine makes the most sense seeing how we literally have an underground expansion.

[Ersula]

If it's far enough along to have icons or a presence in the game, yeah, it'll probably happen. There will be a goblin raid. There is no question about it. Undermine makes the most sense seeing how we literally have an underground expansion.

This is true, it's just as likely that there will be a Goblin-themed raid as there will be a singular goblin raid boss in the second raid, or maybe even just the world boss. Sometimes they just style drops to a particular fight rather than the theme of the entire raid.

[Dracullus]

People always twist their minds to invalidate all the filenames and development info, and it's always true. People thought that Kultiras file name didn't mean anything, people thought the mention of Zaralek Caverns didn't mean anything, people thought emeralddreamoutdoor didn't mean anything, people thought the datamined Aug quest didn't mean anything.

If it's far enough along to have icons or a presence in the game, yeah, it'll probably happen. There will be a goblin raid. There is no question about it. Undermine makes the most sense seeing how we literally have an underground expansion.

..and you still don't know what 'confirmed' means. If bet you will say "HA I TOLD YOU" when Undermine will drop xD. Which is, again (for 352412 time...) very, very likely, but not certain.