1. #6961
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Given that she was taken out by the other four, not the Titans, i doubt it. Any survivors would have been taken over by the winner.
    Perhaps the titanforged of Avaloren found elements of whatever place Xal had established. And something about them caused them to doubt the Keepers.

  2. #6962
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I will try to remain hopeful until blizzcon season and leaks start showing up, maybe they will surprise me, us.


    Besides the things we talked about world revamp and modernizing them with story and gameplay like world quests, the second thing i hope for is another BIG go this time at character customization, especially when it comes to face types, adding a lot more for each race and every race should have the same amount of tabs for customization such as beards for every race, tattoos, scars, jewelry like necklaces for all male/bodytype1 races, much more skin tones and face types that actually look different and all the things that come with that.

    There's a lot of that on wowhead when you tick the npc options in dressing room, the amount of customization(eye types, skin tones) there that is locked for playable characters is crazy and it's a shame we can't even use that.
    I feel like Blizzard needs to start giving cool customization option as a reward.

    Stuff like the Primalist Eyes or Draconic Eyes don't make much sense, but who cares? Make it part of a quest chain or some secret. Not every little cosmetic item has to be lore-accurate or whatever.

  3. #6963
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Perhaps the titanforged of Avaloren found elements of whatever place Xal had established. And something about them caused them to doubt the Keepers.
    That would probably make sense. Especially with how it is outright stated Odyn was keeping things under wraps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Xal herself was, what happened to her previous body is unknown.

    Maybe after her demise her corpse was used as a place of worship, and the titans cracked down on it and built Avaloren on top of it.
    I mean, the concept art that inspired this entire expansion was ostensibly the corpse of an Old God-like creature.

  5. #6965
    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    I mean, the concept art that inspired this entire expansion was ostensibly the corpse of an Old God-like creature.
    I think you're giving that particular part of art way to much credit here.

  6. #6966
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I feel like Blizzard needs to start giving cool customization option as a reward.

    Stuff like the Primalist Eyes or Draconic Eyes don't make much sense, but who cares? Make it part of a quest chain or some secret. Not every little cosmetic item has to be lore-accurate or whatever.
    Honestly giving primalist eyes or draconic eyes as customization reward would be not so much different than night warrior eyes, especially now when you can fight big bads while wearing clown or yeti onesie outfits.

    I feel like blizzard needs to give players more freedom with customization and let them decide the backstory of their characters.
    Other big mmos have more freedom when it comes to character customization and it's good.

    Also i think it would be fun if you could unlock hairstyles of npc's etc. after doing some achievements.

    Like FFXIV, ESO, GW2 are giving more freely access to NPC items that they wear or their customization, but in wow when some npc item shows up in loot table, it has 0,00000001% chance to drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    I think you're giving that particular part of art way to much credit here.
    I just think it would be funny if they did an entire expansion based upon a single piece of concept art while taking absolutely no inspiration from it beyond the name.

  8. #6968
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    Honestly giving primalist eyes or draconic eyes as customization reward would be not so much different than night warrior eyes, especially now when you can fight big bads while wearing clown or yeti onesie outfits.

    I feel like blizzard needs to give players more freedom with customization and let them decide the backstory of their characters.
    Other big mmos have more freedom when it comes to character customization and it's good.

    Also i think it would be fun if you could unlock hairstyles of npc's etc. after doing some achievements.

    Like FFXIV, ESO, GW2 are giving more freely access to NPC items that they wear or their customization, but in wow when some npc item shows up in loot table, it has 0,00000001% chance to drop.
    I'd take a rare drop over spending money for it

    This is in reference to FFXIV and GW2, I don't know anything about ESO

  9. #6969
    Quote Originally Posted by Saintlel View Post
    I'd take a rare drop over spending money for it
    Well we have trading post now and it costs nothing i guess.

    But overall i was talking more about earning something than RNG, because in my mind working for something and getting it is always better than RNG, where you might not even see the item you want for years.

    Like what they did with Night warrior and Dark ranger customization.


    All in all im veery curious what they do with next expansion and patches.
    Last edited by ImTheMizAwesome; 2023-05-30 at 02:51 PM.

  10. #6970
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Xal herself was, what happened to her previous body is unknown.
    Her Artifact Bio specifically says the other Old Gods utterly destroyed it, and the tiny piece that was made into the dagger was all that remained.

  11. #6971
    One thing that struck me as I flew to Orgrimmar to get the treasure goblin thing, the old world is remarkably flat. I guess I never really thought of it much but man it is flat as hell. Granted I was over the Barrens at that point so maybe that's partly the point of it but yeah.

    So while I'm not really looking forward to a world revamp, if it does happen, I wouldn't mind things being made more like the Dragon Isles. It definitely feels more alive to me there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    Do any YouTubers like him do anything other than recap the findings of threads like these?
    Spread that info out across multiple videos.

    I don't hate Youtubers, mind. I hate clickbait, especially those that seek to inflame one side or another.

  12. #6972
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    One thing that struck me as I flew to Orgrimmar to get the treasure goblin thing, the old world is remarkably flat. I guess I never really thought of it much but man it is flat as hell. Granted I was over the Barrens at that point so maybe that's partly the point of it but yeah.

    So while I'm not really looking forward to a world revamp, if it does happen, I wouldn't mind things being made more like the Dragon Isles. It definitely feels more alive to me there.
    Stonetalon would be less flat, but most of the world that already existed pre-cata was relatively level, with elevation mainly used as a barrier rather than as part of the playable area.

    Not much surprise with how terrain can only ever have one elevation at any point in the horizontal plane and objects being used as terrain being much more sparse back then.

    I think one zone in DF has more of the latter than the entirety of Kalimdor.

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    So….when do we get t actually start “carrying on the titans legacy” and nuking planets to reorder them how we wish?

    World of Warcraft “build a world” any one?
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    So….when do we get t actually start “carrying on the titans legacy” and nuking planets to reorder them how we wish?

    World of Warcraft “build a world” any one?
    Inb4 player housing is us getting our own planet to reorder.
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    what exactly makes Dwarves an underground race?

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    Nothing really new there, far as I can tell. Just shows him defeating Zakajz the Corruptor. Whee.

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    Solid flashback. I don't think we can glean anything new from it, though.

  19. #6979
    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    Solid flashback. I don't think we can glean anything new from it, though.
    Wish the different Chtraxxi we have faced used illusions like this. I do wonder in what context we are seeing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throren View Post
    Ye its a nice flashback of hes death now known as Tirisfall.

    Not bad to have this in.


    Wowhead got the story wrong appearntly. I thought it was a dead give away with Tyrs hand, the area and mention of the Vrykul standing there (which were Tyrs followers)
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