The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Alanar]

So Xe'ra getting killed right in front of his eyes and him just shrugging it off 5 mins later means he was blind af for the light?

Xe ra was forcing illidan into something. Turalyon thought that was totally fine appearntly. He was indeed kinda blind before that. Xe ra was everything for him, he even pressented Illidan to it.

The guy needed a wake up call.

[Makorus]

And you know what he is? Dead.

Literally how is this relevant?

No one complained about unrealistic Kargath is. Because it's a video game. But as soon as the black woman is unrealistic, it's suddenly a problem

[JDBlou]

And you know what he is? Dead.

Non sequitur

[Alanar]

Nah, Alleria won't become an evil psycho like Daenerys.

We will see about that lol.

[huth]

We will see about that lol.

Well, i would be surprised if she suddenly showed up with a bunch of Dragons... and rather unimpressed. I know their bosses personally.

[Ksgrip]

Xe ra was forcing illidan into something. Turalyon thought that was totally fine appearntly. He was indeed kinda blind before that. Xe ra was everything for him, he even pressented Illidan to it.

The guy needed a wake up call.

Which he got and apologised afterwards. Next topic

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We will see about that lol.

Highly doubt it, if it happens it will probably be a temporary thing

[huth]

Xe ra was forcing illidan into something. Turalyon thought that was totally fine appearntly. He was indeed kinda blind before that. Xe ra was everything for him, he even pressented Illidan to it.

The guy needed a wake up call.

I wouldn't say totally fine, given how he was rather quickly accepting that it was in fact not fine.

[Nathanyel]

I think BfA is in a "special" place, because it is also part of the new player experience.

It won't be in 11.0, and that has nothing to do with the raids.

Ny'alotha/N'Zoth are likely difficult to change, since the cloak requirement is deeply involved, I get that, but for other bosses, it should work like for previous bosses that were changed, if there's too few players present, don't use mechanics that oneshot/permastun/etc.

[Foolicious]

I wouldn't say totally fine, given how he was rather quickly accepting that it was in fact not fine.

I feel like there is this common misconception that xera has brainwashed all of her followers into blind fanatics when thats simply not the case. It's this underlying theory that is always present when talking about turalyon. But no one can show any evidence that he is secretly evil and playing Jailer level mindgames with us all.

[Santandame]

You have to put logic aside while arguing about logic, you just want to be mad at her for some reason and are focusing your entire being into a cool and thoughtful shield mechanic.

here, let me help you, whaa whaa, it doesnt make sense, you are right, everyone else is wrong, have a cookie /thread

You’re a favourite for the gold medal in the mental gymnastics by doubling down on this weird, presumptuous train of thought.

Whilst it doesn’t bother me as such (it’s still an unrealistic design but I don’t really care), the person you keep attempting to tar as seemingly either a racist, misogynist or ableist (let’s be honest, that’s what you’re trying to imply. Edit - to no one’s shock someone is explicitly implying it at the top of this page) has clearly made it known they aren’t a fan of the shield & hook design; nothing more.

Stop trying to project and turn it into something it isn’t.

For the record, I think she looks cool, but it’s still a silly design.

[Varodoc]

I feel like there is this common misconception that xera has brainwashed all of her followers into blind fanatics when thats simply not the case. It's this underlying theory that is always present when talking about turalyon. But no one can show any evidence that he is secretly evil and playing Jailer level mindgames with us all.

Because it's not an actual theory, it's funny wishful thinking and delusions that Stormwind will become a raid like Orgrimmar.

A delusion and nothing more. You're more likely to get a third Siege of Orgrimmar.

[Santandame]

But as soon as the black woman is unrealistic, it's suddenly a problem

I don’t think it’s that deep.

[Samin]

"No this is different"

[Jastall]

Of all the completely ridiculous things in Warcraft, a shield held by a hook is where we draw the line? Not the ludicrously oversized weapons, most of which would be more of use as clubs than swords? Not the comically useless shoulder armor that would often kill you if you tried to reach up with your arms? Not the bevy of people fighting shirtless or with the protection in all the wrong places? Not the very idea of anyone or anything tanking blows from beings several times their size? Not completely worthless weapon types like glaives?

She looks cool, that's all that matters. It's all that's ever mattered in this game, unless you want to tell me people love Illidan, Arthas, Sylvanas or Garrosh because their character designs and fighting styles are totally realistic, you guys.

[Alanar]

Which he got and apologised afterwards. Next topic

Irrelevant and also..I wasnt even talking to you. So thats not on you.

[Makorus]

I don’t think it’s that deep.

I totally think it's that deep. Would the outrage about her character be as bad if the character was a Turalyon-type instead? Would every single design decision be nitpicked? I doubt it.

[Alanar]

Highly doubt it, if it happens it will probably be a temporary thing

What ever you say.

[Santandame]

I totally think it's that deep. Would the outrage about her character be as bad if the character was a Turalyon-type instead? Would every single design decision be nitpicked? I doubt it.

Then you likely need help or you’re looking to be even more outraged than the guy you’re all arguing with.

If your immediate thought is to imply he/she is a racist based off nothing more than them saying they don’t like a certain aspect of a design on a certain character then it’s more apparent you’re the one arguing in bad faith.

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Of all the completely ridiculous things in Warcraft, a shield held by a hook is where we draw the line? Not the ludicrously oversized weapons, most of which would be more of use as clubs than swords? Not the comically useless shoulder armor that would often kill you if you tried to reach up with your arms? Not the bevy of people fighting shirtless or with the protection in all the wrong places? Not the very idea of anyone or anything tanking blows from beings several times their size? Not completely worthless weapon types like glaives?

She looks cool, that's all that matters. It's all that's ever mattered in this game, unless you want to tell me people love Illidan, Arthas, Sylvanas or Garrosh because their character designs and fighting styles are totally realistic, you guys.

It’s silly but most designs in WoW are. Despite it being silly, it does look cool.

[BaumanKing]

I totally think it's that deep. Would the outrage about her character be as bad if the character was a Turalyon-type instead?

The exact same thing happened to Turalyon tho. When his model was unveiled, it was completely ridiculed for looking like a poodle in chandelier armor. People here will make fun of anything and everything because, let's be honest, these forums are pretty toxic.

[Jastall]

It’s silly but most designs in WoW are. Despite it being silly, it does look cool.

It is a bit silly and I'd honestly have preferred her to have a cool prosthetic arm or something, but in the grand scheme of Warcraft things it's magnitudes less ridiculous than, say, Demon Hunters going shirtless into battle using weapons that have 0 reach and are as likely to stab them as they would their foe. But Demon Hunters look cool so it's fine. Similarly, her armor looks really cool so I don't see why the hook shield should be a particular problem. Just imagine it's a magical hook, problem solved.