The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Murlocos]

Danuser infamously said that 9.2 was the conclusion to Chapter 1 of the story dating back to WC3 and now Metzen comes in saying that the Worldsoul Saga is...meant to wrap up the last 20 years.

If there was ever a time to just discard that bullshit, it's now.

Nonsense. Every time we either see a blatant or outright admitted instance of the team not thinking or planning very far ahead, it's only further proof that Il'gynoth whispers and whatever cryptic tripe was being ominously spat out in SL were always meant to be the focal point of the Warcraft universe and all future plot threads must connect back to them. #TrustThePlan

[Kiivar86]

If the crystal in Hallowfall really is a Naaru ship they're going to have to explain how the Arathi knew to name it Beledar in accordance with Draenei ship nomenclature.

In regards to this, name-wise it is kind of similar to Mereldar. Could just be coincidence. According to the summary posted on the front page, Beledar translates as "Emperor's Vision."

[Santandame]

Actually, she was dead ...

Actually, she wasn’t. And until you present actual evidence that isn’t head-canon or tying yourself in knots trying to explain that she was dead it’ll just stay that way - head-canon.

[Makabreska]

Actually, she wasn’t. And until you present actual evidence that isn’t head-canon or tying yourself in knots trying to explain that she was dead it’ll just stay that way - head-canon.

What does all of this even matter?

[Santandame]

What does all of this even matter?

It doesn’t to be fair, it’s just becoming very playground “no I’m right! No I am!” at this point as well as derailing, which I am being just as guilty of.

Let’s move on.

[Civciv]

It doesn’t to be fair, it’s just becoming very playground “no I’m right! No I am!” at this point as well as derailing, which I am being just as guilty of.

Let’s move on.

If it weren't for N'zoth, Jaina and Lor'themar would have finished her off. So yeah, we beat her up until N'zoth used lay on hands on her and yeeted.

[KyleEverett]

In regards to this, name-wise it is kind of similar to Mereldar. Could just be coincidence. According to the summary posted on the front page, Beledar translates as "Emperor's Vision."

Mereldar is a name of a Tirisfallian human who was one of the first to hear the Naaru and discover the light after the Troll Wars. She dedicated her life after the war to healing all the veterans.

[Jolly Roger]

Well, you could interpret Shadowlands as the conclusion to chapter 1, that doesn't mean there are no more chapters from the story from WC3 to now. Like, both can be true.

danuser said it was the culmination of all previous lore and tied it up in a bow

[Kiivar86]

Mereldar is a name of a Tirisfallian human who was one of the first to hear the Naaru and discover the light after the Troll Wars. She dedicated her life after the war to healing all the veterans.

I know. I'm saying that the crystal/possible Naaru ship having a name similar to the naming convention of other Naaru ships (Exodar, Genedar, interestingly Vindicaar has double a's there) is possibly just chance and the name itself is based closer to Mereldar.

[Vakir]

Well, you could interpret Shadowlands as the conclusion to chapter 1, that doesn't mean there are no more chapters from the story from WC3 to now. Like, both can be true.

Except that's not what it was going for.

It was meant to be the resolution that this now promises to be. Hence the Jailer being responsible for basically everything up to that point. It wasn't enough to be behind the Helm of Domination and Arthas. He had the Dreadlords in every domain. He's implied to be responsible for getting Sargeras into targeting the Void Lords. He's aware of another threat seemingly nobody else has ever told us about. We literally go to the 3D printer of the WELL ACKSHUALLY Gods that are way cooler than what you thought were the gods. Danuser seeded this into everything.

The idea that a supposed resolution to story dating almost 20 years is Chapter 1 and then ANOTHER story immediately following the poor reception to it is not an immediate course correction and is, in fact, just a Chapter 2 that's less than half as long in duration is a massive cope, my dude.

They can't throw something under the bus and say "we're sorry that was bad"...but the idea of literally dropping 3 expansions, flat out telling us "OK, there's a plan for realsies, we're going back to two of the most popular places in the game's history," and telling us to "come home" from the story's resident cocaine fueled salesman was such an obvious PR move.

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Nonsense. Every time we either see a blatant or outright admitted instance of the team not thinking or planning very far ahead, it's only further proof that Il'gynoth whispers and whatever cryptic tripe was being ominously spat out in SL were always meant to be the focal point of the Warcraft universe and all future plot threads must connect back to them. #TrustThePlan

Right on. YOU GUYS! THE GREEN EYED VASSAL! There's like 15 characters with green eyes but fuck you! It sounds ominous and important!


PEPE SILVIA DID TELDRASSIL! Orcish catapults can't melt world tree lumber!

Like, the guy who did the initial pool of whispers doesn't even work for Blizzard anymore and even then you have the fallback of the Void being open to all possibilities and/or just being duplicitous fucks.

I don't want to hush idle speculation, but it's the sheer confidence of its legitimacy and efficacy that needs to be mocked.

[Ersula]

Erm... we did.

N'zoth brought her back.

She was only knocked unconscious.

[Lady Atia]

She was only knocked unconscious.

Nope, since you can get "Famed Slayer of Azshara". Bosses who survive get different titles for HoF (see Sylvanas and Jaina).

[Raetary]

Patch is up for the US-lers.

[Ersula]

Nope, since you can get "Famed Slayer of Azshara". Bosses who survive get different titles for HoF (see Sylvanas and Jaina).

That is supposedly canon but when a Toy says "titan technology" we're supposed to take it with a grain of salt, apparently.

[Nymrohd]

Patch is up for the US-lers.

Let's see what the heritage quests will be like.

[Darkarath]

Hmmm did I just see Alleria aiming at Turalyon in the trailer? Probably an illusion, but still... and Ethereals

[Lady Atia]

Patch is up for the US-lers.

Lets hope for some cool rewards like the void slitherdrake skin!

[Kiivar86]

Watching the trailer, is that void-corrupted Draenei a new model or something I'm forgetting from Legion?

Also interesting that they seem to be at Ulduar. Curious-wait, Yogg, that'd be why, wouldn't it?

[Ersula]

Lets hope for some cool rewards like the void slitherdrake skin!

The questline is so broken you might as well not log in til MoP Remix

[Raetary]

Watching the trailer, is that void-corrupted Draenei a new model or something I'm forgetting from Legion?

They appeared on Argus.

They are corrupted broken.