The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[SilverLion]

Destroyed Dalaran.

Also Anduin needs an IV drip of SSRIs at this point.



Honestly, I agree and I think it's just going to be inevitably responded to with intense emotions. Khadgar is one of the very few characters that has almost universal praise in a game prone to making main characters that are divisive at best. Mostly because he fucks off through most of the garbage stories and keeps a likeable personality. So people are gonna find a way to complain.

I maintain he isn't dead yet. No body etc.

Imo if people complain about Khadgar dying its going to highlight how unserious about people about a good story. I've been a very vocal critic of Legion but one thing it tried was to have permanent stakes with Varian and Vol'jin. BFA lacked this, Shadowlands lacked this, DF lacked this. None of the villains in these expansions killer anyone important to us, and that's a very simple way of setting up threat. Let's take for example, the classic example of the Red Wedding. In the books, Robb's wife lives. In the show, not so much, because the show was trying to build up Tywin Lannister as this a totally brutal guy. The book doesn't really need to do this because Tywin's brutality is the focus of previous chapters anyways.

[Makorus]

Imo if people complain about Khadgar dying its going to highlight how unserious about people about a good story.

What, the whole Arthas 9.2 discourse didn't show you that?

People complain about the "MCU-ification of WoW" when the majority of the playerbase wants MCU moments where their favourite superhero shows up. They don't care about a good story, they just care about cool moments.

[Avikur]

So I pre purchased the epic edition when it was announced, the blue post talks about accounts already being flagged and being able to instal the beta, I can't see this yet on my battle net launcher, I assume that will happen on the 5th after the alpha servers go down and it comes back up as beta?

[Makorus]

So I pre purchased the epic edition when it was announced, the blue post talks about accounts already being flagged and being able to instal the beta, I can't see this yet on my battle net launcher, I assume that will happen on the 5th after the alpha servers go down and it comes back up as beta?

Where does it say that?

[Nymrohd]

I'm absolutely OK with Khadgar dying as long as he gets a kickass cinematic like Varian did. If he dies in some lame ass manner like Vol'jin, Blizz devs deserve the hate they'll get.

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What, the whole Arthas 9.2 discourse didn't show you that?

People complain about the "MCU-ification of WoW" when the majority of the playerbase wants MCU moments where their favourite superhero shows up. They don't care about a good story, they just care about cool moments.

Eh, people cared about epic moments over a strong story well before the "MCU moments". Let's not reduce everything to our culture grievances.

[Khaza-R]

Eh, people cared about epic moments over a strong story well before the "MCU moments". Let's not reduce everything to our culture grievances.

One could argue that's literally what the RTS was all about. 20-30 minutes of gameplay for a 2 min cutscene of something cool happening.

I also think the MCU comparison isn't about small lore bits and quips but more about characters in DF behaving like its Infinity Wars. But that's also nothing new. WoW always copies pop culture. Hence how the Frozen Throne suddenly had Barad-dûr built around it in 2008

[Avikur]

Where does it say that?

It says:

If selected to participate in the beta test, your Battle.net account will already be flagged for access. Players who upgrade to the Epic Edition of The War Within will also gain immediate access to the beta.

Although I may have misunderstood it or read it out of context, but I got the impression my account would already be flagged and I'd be able to start testing it from the 5th June as I'd bought the epic edition?

[Nymrohd]

It says:

If selected to participate in the beta test, your Battle.net account will already be flagged for access. Players who upgrade to the Epic Edition of The War Within will also gain immediate access to the beta.

Although I may have misunderstood it or read it out of context, but I got the impression my account would already be flagged and I'd be able to start testing it from the 5th June as I'd bought the epic edition?

I assume they will get us all on the 5th.

[THEORACLE64]

It says:

If selected to participate in the beta test, your Battle.net account will already be flagged for access. Players who upgrade to the Epic Edition of The War Within will also gain immediate access to the beta.

Although I may have misunderstood it or read it out of context, but I got the impression my account would already be flagged and I'd be able to start testing it from the 5th June as I'd bought the epic edition?

I think it’s just the FAQ for what will be the 5th onwards.

They’re automatically flagged from having the pre-order, it’s just up to them when they push the invites out (which will be the 5th).

[Aenythh]

It says:

If selected to participate in the beta test, your Battle.net account will already be flagged for access. Players who upgrade to the Epic Edition of The War Within will also gain immediate access to the beta.

Although I may have misunderstood it or read it out of context, but I got the impression my account would already be flagged and I'd be able to start testing it from the 5th June as I'd bought the epic edition?

While it indeed says that, the beta is only starting on the 5th. And nowhere, in your quote, does it say that you can already install it.

[Xilurm]

Why is Jaina in the new TWW artwork? Sure she's very popular since W3 and specially since BFA with her remodel, but I thought she was not going to have any prominent role in TWW. I was also surprised to see her in the latest cinematic in dalaran. Could they be setting her up as Khadgar replacement or something like that?

Kinda wish they'd change her design again. Let her have long flowing hair again instead of the Elsa hairdo.

[Avikur]

While it indeed says that, the beta is only starting on the 5th. And nowhere, in your quote, does it say that you can already install it.

I agree that as it starts on the 5th it's unlikely you'd be able to install it before then as no doubt they're still working on the build, however, the post read to me that I'd be able to see that my account has been flagged and it'd show in my list of games already. As I said, I may have read it out of context but that why I was asking here, to check if there is an issue with mine or if everyone else is also in the same boat

[Merryck]

It's kind of weird how characters just wear the same outfits all the time ... I wish Jaina would have variants. Like casual vs battle vs whatever.

[Eurhetemec]

I also think the MCU comparison isn't about small lore bits and quips but more about characters in DF behaving like its Infinity Wars. But that's also nothing new. WoW always copies pop culture. Hence how the Frozen Throne suddenly had Barad-dûr built around it in 2008

Either way the MCU comparison just how goldfish-memory most people are.

"MCU-style" moments have been happening in movies since the 1950s at the latest, and TV since what, the 1970s? The MCU's entire deal is basically just a re-iteration of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which itself brought forwards a lot of 1970s stuff. However one feels about Joss Whedon, he profoundly influenced TV and movies about superpowered characters.

And thankfully even with the all the complaining about dialogue in WoW, there's no real "talking like Whedon/MCU characters". Hilariously WoW's dialogue is actually more naturalistic than that!

It's kind of weird how characters just wear the same outfits all the time ... I wish Jaina would have variants. Like casual vs battle vs whatever.

That's something even high-budget movies are still struggling with, and high-budget single-player games also do. Still I do agree. I feel like it's something that, once enough games do it, others will have to follow suit.

[Xilurm]

It's kind of weird how characters just wear the same outfits all the time ... I wish Jaina would have variants. Like casual vs battle vs whatever.

Soridormi has that. She has her casual yellow gown, and her battle gear she uses during the time rifts.

[Vakir]

Imo if people complain about Khadgar dying its going to highlight how unserious about people about a good story.

The fandom is dumb. Welcome to 2007. Earlier, really. The official forums in 2004 had unironic threads in the Suggestions section asking for real life guns like "deagles, that'd be so cool."

I do think Vol'jin died too soon and doing fucking nothing but otherwise.

[Kiivar86]

Khadgar's among my favorite characters but I don't mind him dying. That said, I agree that I doubt he's actually dead, at least as of yet. Will need to see precisely what occurs in the opening, though, that can of course change things.

[Cheezits]

Pretty sure it has already been spoiled through datamining that Khadgar is not dead as he is MIA.

[huth]

While it indeed says that, the beta is only starting on the 5th. And nowhere, in your quote, does it say that you can already install it.

Confusingly, i actually did get the option to download the beta a week ago. Which is kind of useless currently.

[Raetary]

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