The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lady Atia]

Correct. Ysera was obviously built up to return and all signs of the story point to it, from the model to how she was presented in Shadowlands. But she didn't and now she's just sort of naff while her daughter, just as much a cipher as she is, but even less developed, has a seat that she shouldn't.

Yeah, which honestly almost feels like Sylvanas and her super small presence during Zereth Mortis

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Honestly, i like all the story quests, but i really wish they would phase them or just put them in scenarios.

Having 50 randos dancing around in Tyrs tomb while i'm trying to do the questline in peace is not an enjoyable experience.
Especially if they start chatting.

Yeah I agree, its kinda annoying having everyone swarm to them. On one hand I love all the activity, on the other I basically didn't do the questline just yet cause everyone and their mom was there doing the quests.

Speaking of which, what do y'all think the Emerald Dream is gonna have?

I'm expecting the Eye of Ysera to be a hub, I am expecting Elune to make an appearance maybe, and some other things. Would be odd if the Eye of Ysera wasn't in the same part of the Dream as Elune's area personally, but if not, then that's okay.

Ysera, Merithera handling the Dream. Tyrande and Nelves cause that tree seed and such. Vyranoth as a antagonist for x reasons. Icy theme. Iridakron's involvement I don't know, Fyrakk possibly the antaganist this time instead of Vyranoth but thats probably well it wouldn't be my favored choice. I see Fyrakk doomed to eventually lose himself to the Shadowflame.

[Sondrelk]

Honestly, i like all the story quests, but i really wish they would phase them or just put them in scenarios.

Having 50 randos dancing around in Tyrs tomb while i'm trying to do the questline in peace is not an enjoyable experience.
Especially if they start chatting.

This is honestly why I decided not to do the quest immediately. It was already annoying enough not being able to peacefully release the spirits of the highborne in Crystalsong forest.
I am not ruining my experience with this questline by having to sprint to every quest objective before it gets tagged, and having my vision filled with ten different characters yelling memes.

[Murlocos]

Tbf Ysera seems to suffer from Blizz's new "we react to feedback" philosophy- thanks to the "Merithra should be the Aspect" crowd who cried about Ysera during the late alpha ...

In an ideal world we wouldn't need such a mindset, but enough narrative missteps have been made that it feels like a necessary evil to keep things vaguely on track. The excessive transparency would be more of a negative if the writers were otherwise enjoying a positive reception to their work.

[Sondrelk]

Yeah, which honestly almost feels like Sylvanas and her super small presence during Zereth Mortis

The questline that starts with Uther assuring us that Sylvanas is good, only to then not feature her at all until the final quest turn-in was always suspect to me.

[Throren]

Surprised they haven't put out a preview for tomorrow's Trading post stuff yet

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Tbf Ysera seems to suffer from Blizz's new "we react to feedback" philosophy- thanks to the "Merithra should be the Aspect" crowd who cried about Ysera during the late alpha ...

I think Ysera suffers mostly for being dead, you know. We can't blame any feedback when it would have been pretty cheap if Ysera returned from the dead easy peasy and became Aspect again.

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Surprised they haven't put out a preview for tomorrow's Trading post stuff yet

I needs to know if to change my frozen item!

[Kiivar86]

Surprised they haven't put out a preview for tomorrow's Trading post stuff yet

Blizzard in general's probably pretty busy with the Diablo launch shortly but I imagine we'll see before too long.

Anyone have any hopes? Thus far I haven't spent much besides a bit on the hood from this month so I'm rolling in the currency otherwise. Hoping for something good.

I'd love if maybe they have the Stormcrow mount (blue version of the Rukhmar/Argus mount).

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I hope for more models that were never used(but are in the files) or added as loot and not mostly recolors.

[Throren]

Any gear that has 3D bits on them always gets me excited. I know lots of people are waiting for that Blood troll set still, there was also a decent looking low-fantasy looking mail armour set that would be nice

[Worldshaper]

To be fair, this is one instance where I am not sure you can fault the current writers to inheriting her brick of a character. If she couldn't show even a modicum of personality when facing off against Deathwing, her sworn enemy. Who captured her children and used them as breeding machines. I think it would be jarring to have her suddenly get all passionate about defeating a bunch of proto dragons she seemingly forgot even existed until she got to the Dragon Isles.

I don't know, man. They've taken a lot of established characters over the years and spruce them up a bit for a particular expansion. With Alex being the poster girl and everything, now seems like it would have been the time.

[Teriz]

https://twitter.com/Manaborne/status...QiQIP2uXQ&s=19

Nerubian mention in dragonflight

Interesting........

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Nerubian mention in dragonflight

Holy shit. Sweet.

[Nymrohd]

Holy shit. Sweet.

And not just a mention. Mention of a QUEEN. Queen means viable eggs. Ofc it could be a long dead queen. It doesn't seem to match the name of the RPG queen which while non-canon, Blizzard devs have used heavily while worldbuilding (they used ideas from it liberally in Kul Tiras).

[Lorgar Aurelian]

And not just a mention. Mention of a QUEEN. Queen means viable eggs. Ofc it could be a long dead queen. It doesn't seem to match the name of the RPG queen which while non-canon, Blizzard devs have used heavily while worldbuilding (they used ideas from it liberally in Kul Tiras).

Wasn’t there a mention of a queen from the island quest in BFA as well?

[Santandame]

Currently doing the Blue Dragons quest chain, and I'm at the Crystalsong Forest section.

One of the dialogue options when trying to soothe the echoes is telling them that they are in Tel'Abim. This is the only location mentioned as a dialogue option. It reminds me of the little breadcrumbs/easter eggs in Legion, during the Aszuna questing where we help out shipwrecked Kul'Tiran and Zandalari sailors. Ultimately, the following expansion used these two continents as the primary setting.

I was already pretty convinced we'd be getting Tel'Abim next, and this is just something else that reinforces it for me. That, along with it mentioned in books found in the Forbidden Reach clearly means Tel'Abim is on the devs mind, and that they're seeding it in game for players atm.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

And not just a mention. Mention of a QUEEN. Queen means viable eggs. Ofc it could be a long dead queen. It doesn't seem to match the name of the RPG queen which while non-canon, Blizzard devs have used heavily while worldbuilding (they used ideas from it liberally in Kul Tiras).

Playable Nerubians have always been a ludicrous pipe dream of mine. It's probably impossible, certainly improbable, but I'm going to hope and cope regardless.

[Nymrohd]

Playable Nerubians have always been a ludicrous pipe dream of mine. It's probably impossible, certainly improbable, but I'm going to hope and cope regardless.

I've dwelled on the concept a lot since I wish for a Forsaken faction and nerubians would have been such a good fit. I think the Vizier class would work perfectly well tbh. They have an upright posture that would work well with mounts, they could wear most armor pieces except boots and I guess leggings. They obviously don't work well with the current ridiculous "all races can be all classes" concept but so many combos don't so who cares. And really one option could be to give them different body types for different classes; use the vizier for classes that are mostly casters and a more classic drider look (the warriors) for more physical classes.

[Nymrohd]

Currently doing the Blue Dragons quest chain, and I'm at the Crystalsong Forest section.

One of the dialogue options when trying to soothe the echoes is telling them that they are in Tel'Abim. This is the only location mentioned as a dialogue option. It reminds me of the little breadcrumbs/easter eggs in Legion, during the Aszuna questing where we help out shipwrecked Kul'Tiran and Zandalari sailors. Ultimately, the following expansion used these two continents as the primary setting.

I was already pretty convinced we'd be getting Tel'Abim next, and this is just something else that reinforces it for me. That, along with it mentioned in books found in the Forbidden Reach clearly means Tel'Abim is on the devs mind, and that they're seeding it in game for players atm.

Honestly if they could pull of an Arabian Nights expac, I'd be so happy. We definitely could find ways to fit it in the lore anyway.

[Teriz]

Playable Nerubians have always been a ludicrous pipe dream of mine. It's probably impossible, certainly improbable, but I'm going to hope and cope regardless.

Give them visage forms like dracthyr/dragons and it could work.

If they do playable Nerubians, I’m hoping for a crypt lord class to come with it.