The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

...no? It is literally, in all his artworks prior WoD, It was entirely black in the warcraft 3 cinematic and is mentioned a couple of times in the books such as rise of the horde and Lord of the clans:



Garrosh did the same to look like Grom, and mentioned again in the Shattering:



He was also Slender for an orc, but i don't expect an entire new model for that, but at least the tattoo they should have got right, they forgetting that is asinine

They must have changed it for WoD then. His model there only has the soul patch tattoo.
Weird choice, but whatever.

[Syegfryed]

I dunno, to me alliance toons having access to gorehowl is a non issue honestly and i mainly play horde.

I mainly play horde as well, thats why i don't want to see humans, draeneis and night elves wielding the very weapon that killed hundreds of then.

Another thing like someone else mentioned, there's cross faction stuff now, so you will probably just have to queue with alliance leader.

I loathe anything related to cross faction bs

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Horde has access to plenty of iconic Alliance weapons though. Especially given the Artifact system. Scythe of Elune, Ashbringer, Silver Hand, Strom'kar, heck Ironfoe

I would gadly give then away as well.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I mainly play horde as well, thats why i don't want to see humans, draeneis and night elves wielding the very weapon that killed hundreds of then.



I loathe anything related to cross faction bs

Then we're on two sides of the barricade then, i see no issue in current times with it and you do.

About cross faction, it's weird calling it "bullshit", since it allowed many people to play more freely in group content and it's better for actual health of the game.

Horde vs alliance trope is dead on retail, because it no longer makes sense.

[Pyrophax]

Horde has access to plenty of iconic Alliance weapons though. Especially given the Artifact system. Scythe of Elune, Ashbringer, Silver Hand, Strom'kar, heck Ironfoe

Only if Shalamayne will drop from AU Varian.

[Syegfryed]

They must have changed it for WoD then. His model there only has the soul patch tattoo.
Weird choice, but whatever.

In WoD i was a time before he got the full tattoo, in that case made sense, its fine, but they stupidly forgot the MU Grom is different, and that to me show how, probably everyone there, don't rly know much of the game pre wod, that is some lack of consistency.

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About cross faction, it's weird calling it "bullshit", since it allowed many people to play more freely in group content and it's better for actual health of the game.

People could just level another character, its only "healthy" now because the game is bleeding dry of players and there is not enough to make up for two factions.

Horde vs alliance trope is dead on retail, because it no longer makes sense.

It does make sense still, besides their tentatives of fucking it up, its only dead because they intended to kill it

[Berkilak]

Venture Company is and has always been a extreme satire of corporate greed.

If Blizzard Suits look at that and see a reflection of themselves to the point they feel offended, they should re-evaluate their lives.

Ya and what he was ding was great, not his fault the horrible suits who run the place are so thin skinned.

I don't disagree.

But when your livelihood is on the line, maybe you shouldn't make the exact same joke that has been associated specifically with your company's CEO, even if it is in character. He was clearly making a pointed reference at the expense of the top of his chain of command. Protest all he wants, he would have to be completely moronic and oblivious to not make that connection himself. Should he have lost is job over that? Of course not. Should he have been smart enough to not gamble his job on a quip? Entirely. It was a very stupid call on his part, regardless of his moral high ground in the situation.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

People could just level another character, its only "healthy" now because the game is bleeding dry of players and there is not enough to make up for two factions.


It does make sense still, besides their tentatives of fucking it up, its only dead because they intended to kill it

"People could just level another character" is really a dumb statement in that situation and as for game bleeding dry, i don't see that personally while im doing content.

Another question, have you actually played DF?

About faction war again, no it doesn't make sense anymore.

[Lolites]

Horde has access to plenty of iconic Alliance weapons though. Especially given the Artifact system. Scythe of Elune, Ashbringer, Silver Hand, Strom'kar, heck Ironfoe

Strom'kar is very ironic if you play troll warior

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there is not enough to make up for two factions.

lack of players is not issue there, massive imbalance is

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"People could just level another character" is really a dumb statement in that situation and as for game bleeding dry, i don't see that personally while im doing content.

thing is its completely irrelevant, as unlocking factions wouldnt help that, it only helps to "solve" imbalance

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Titan architecture seems to be a variety of step pyramids and zigurats

some of it, sure, other not so much, Ulduar, halls of valor, uldaman (what we seen from the model inside) wasnt really like that either
the "cities" and mogu palace in valley of eternal blossom and mogushan vault should be titanic too if i remember correctly

so yeah, i dont think it would be issue

[huth]

It's a shame there's no balls because we all know how Galakrond got that powerful in the first place, it even got brought up in this expansion so it's not like they forgot. If Iridikron wanted that power source they should've had us interrupt him midway through chowing down on a big heart.

Balls? More like age ratings. They kinda need that to stay consistent.

[Santandame]

It absolutely is a stretch to say it "would absolutely be that".
But if it was, it would be cool

Not in the slightest. Considering Banana’s are originally from Asia and the term Banana is actually Arabic. Just going off that, it’s far more likely to assume that Tel’Abim, renowned for its bananas, would be an Arabic/Asian themed expansion.

It certainly isn’t going to be a European setting.

The only other option as a setting would be a Caribbean/South American styled setting, of which we already have with Zandalar.

[huth]

Not in the slightest. Considering Banana’s are originally from Asia and the term Banana is actually Arabic. Just going off that, it’s far more likely to assume that Tel’Abim, renowned for its bananas, would be an Arabic/Asian themed expansion.

So in short, bananas aren't from Arabia, only the word is. Asia is a whole different thing.

I think you need to look at a map or globe.

[Santandame]

Honestly not sure how well it would translatge; Titan architecture seems to be a variety of step pyramids and zigurats. It's why egyptian and mesoamerican themes have worked so well (and why I think a mesopotamian version would work great for Avaloren). Though I am unsure how much of this is Titan architecture and not repurposed Black Empire since it looks so similar.

Since when?

Outside of Uldum, there is no Titan architecture that is Egyptian in style at all. Pyramids or ziggurats for that matter.

They’re architecture is primarily very futuristic, and is a lot broader in style.

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So in short, bananas aren't from Arabia, only the word is. Asia is a whole different thing.

I think you need to look at a map or globe.

Arabia is a peninsula in Asia.

Would you like to borrow that globe?

[Nightshade711]

So every part of the “prophecy” is coming true…
Naga expansion confirmed?

[Santandame]

So every part of the “prophecy” is coming true…
Naga expansion confirmed?

I could definitely see Azshara as the main antagonist of an Avaloren expansion. Perhaps the “true throne of power” she referenced when we last saw her is in Avaloren?

I think an Azshara/Xal’atath team-up could make for a cool expansion too.

Could see the Naga having a presence on Tel’Abim too.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

What is the dark heart though.

[huth]

Arabia is a peninsula in Asia.

Would you like to borrow that globe?

In Asia is way overselling it. It's a desert peninsula at the south-westmost corner of Asia, directly next to Africa. It's not exactly a good spot to grow bananas, either.
And culturally, it's a far cry from what's generally considered "Asian". Asian-themed is uselessly broad due to the sheer number of cultures that covers anyway.

Also, turns out Banana is in fact not Arabic. The family name Musa is based on Arabic, not the name for the fruit. That's probably from an African language.

[Santandame]

In Asia is way overselling it. It's a desert peninsula at the south-westmost corner of Asia, directly next to Africa. It's not exactly a good spot to grow bananas, either.
And culturally, it's a far cry from what's generally considered "Asian". Asian-themed is uselessly broad due to the sheer number of cultures that covers anyway.

Also, turns out Banana is in fact not Arabic. The family name Musa is based on Arabic, not the name for the fruit. That's probably from an African language.

It’s not overselling it. It is it’s actual geographical location. There’s no way of spinning it. Your initial point was wrong. The Arabian Peninsula may very well be next to Africa. It isn’t in Africa though, it’s in Asia. Spain is next to France, that doesn’t make it French. I take it the globe didn’t help?

Not understanding the relevance of your point here. As you’ve said, Asian theme is very broad in terms of scope. East Asian is vastly different from the Middle East(ergo Arabia). So in actuality you’ve just contradicted the point you were trying to make? A potential Tel’Abim setting based on the Middle East would indeed be Asian.

Bananas are grown in hot climate all over the world. Including the Middle East and Central Asia. Saudi Arabia especially. Israel too.

The word Banana comes from the Arabic word Banan which means finger. The Banana was given its name due to its finger like shape. A cluster of Bananas is also called a hand. I could cite and provide various sources if you’d like?

I don’t think you’re as intelligent as you think you are, Huth. So I think the condescending, contrarian attitude you employ most of the time in this thread is a bit wasted on you.

[Alanar]

I could definitely see Azshara as the main antagonist of an Avaloren expansion. Perhaps the “true throne of power” she referenced when we last saw her is in Avaloren?

I think an Azshara/Xal’atath team-up could make for a cool expansion too.

Could see the Naga having a presence on Tel’Abim too.

God, I am just happy they didnt kill Azshara..

We also need a Denathrius & Azshara team up as well. They both have this air, which would be a dangerous combo.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

We also need a Denathrius & Azshara team up as well. They both have this air, which would be a dangerous combo.

Though I like both, I don't see the two having a particularly riveting dynamic; I've always taken them as having too similar a presentation re: dialogue, characterization, etc. They have differences, of course, but they're fairly intangible in terms of their actual portrayal.

[Santandame]

Though I like both, I don't see the two having a particularly riveting dynamic; I've always taken them as having too similar a presentation re: dialogue, characterization, etc. They have differences, of course, but they're fairly intangible in terms of their actual portrayal.

Definitely. Both are great but I don’t think they’d compliment each other well. Both are quite camp, pompous and arrogant. Great attributes for a villain but I don’t think it would work well with two of the same playing off each other.

One or the other teaming up with Xal’atath would make for a better dynamic I feel.

In fairness, I’d prefer to have Azshara as an unwilling ally for an expansion. We don’t have to be buddy buddy, but our goals could align and we help each other before she is inevitably used as a villain for an expansion later on. I’d love to see her given as much screen time as possible, in the Bolvar/Alex/Illidan/Khadgar role.