The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Vakir]

Has this thread become the new general chat or what? I thought I's about speculation of the next xpac

This is about that. This is in explicit reference to an explicit statement Alleria makes that indicates the entire potential tone of the next 3 expansions.

There was never any true guarantee there was going to be no interracial or factional conflict over 3 expacs even if it's a big grand finale. This calls that into question.

[Staremonemesis]

As a narrative, Warcraft has heaps of artistic value. It is the story of people doing their best to survive with particular extreme circumstances

True

created by cosmic forces infinitely more powerful than normal people & long before any of the characters were born. That is what resonates with people.

Groan zone, boring Bakugan chart bullshit that scrapes the characterization out of everyone and everything

So anyone boiling it down to "Alliance good, Horde bad" is undermining the entire narrative.

Imo it undermines the narrative to try to frame either faction as good or bad, needless pigeonholing

[Nymrohd]

Damn after the changes I think I might actually be stronger than the froggers.

[Scyth]

Damn after the changes I think I might actually be stronger than the froggers.

I actually was ok with froggers, was nice to join a raid group and be carried

[Lahis]

Damn after the changes I think I might actually be stronger than the froggers.

Unless your gear is also 550 ilvl like them, then no.

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I actually was ok with froggers, was nice to join a raid group and be carried

That would assume you somehow got into groups without being a frogger.

[Merryck]

Why isn't there a way to swap timerunner characters into standard characters early?

[Hitei]

Why isn't there a way to swap timerunner characters into standard characters early?

I'd imagine to prevent degen gameplay akin to what happens with class trials.

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This is about that. This is in explicit reference to an explicit statement Alleria makes that indicates the entire potential tone of the next 3 expansions.

There was never any true guarantee there was going to be no interracial or factional conflict over 3 expacs even if it's a big grand finale. This calls that into question.

I more assumed they are talking about the MoP Remix discussion, since that has very literally absolutely nothing to do with expansion speculation, at all.

[Merryck]

I'd imagine to prevent degen gameplay akin to what happens with class trials.

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I more assumed they are talking about the MoP Remix discussion, since that has very literally absolutely nothing to do with expansion speculation, at all.

I would pay to leave. Nothing about this feels good at max level. It's a miserable gameplay experience where level 20s do 4-5x your damage until your tinker sockets proc. It's the final boss of borrowed power and abysmal scaling. And god the dialogue for the quests is so obnoxiously bad. I'm now realizing how brain dead the writing was before Legion. I just want to unlock my heritage armor now but this character is stuck in Pandaria for the next 3 months.

[Raetary]

I just want to unlock my heritage armor now but this character is stuck in Pandaria for the next 3 months.

Make a new character, pick the same race as your timerunner, tick the class trial box and you'll be eligible for the heritage quests.

[Scyth]

I'm only now starting my second character and it's so quick, jesus. A few quests and 1 dungeon run and I'm already lvl 17. Not to mention that most mobs die from 1 hit lol

[Nymrohd]

I really wonder if we will see thinks like Remix and Fated seasons during the trilogy. Would people be disappointed if we do? I am sure the most likely answer on what Remix people want next would be Legion.

[Kiivar86]

I'm only now starting my second character and it's so quick, jesus. A few quests and 1 dungeon run and I'm already lvl 17. Not to mention that most mobs die from 1 hit lol

Its pretty nice now. I wouldn't mind if the cloak carried over other stats (even diminished) or more than 100% experience at the start but eh, still leveling like crazy.

[Xilurm]

I really wonder if we will see thinks like Remix and Fated seasons during the trilogy. Would people be disappointed if we do? I am sure the most likely answer on what Remix people want next would be Legion.

I imagine WoD would be next. It has some of the best levelling zones and the transmogs and mounts are great. Also Garrisons could be a fun distraction for a few months. Legion after that, obviously.

By that point we'd be into the saga after TWW and I wonder if they'd be willing to do TBC and Wrath. They'd have to tailor the raids to LFR too.

The ideal progression to me would be MoP (we are here now) > WoD > Legion. Then, Classic zones (1-60) > TBC > Wrath > Cata. Then, BFA > SL > DF.

[Raetary]

I really wonder if we will see thinks like Remix and Fated seasons during the trilogy. Would people be disappointed if we do? I am sure the most likely answer on what Remix people want next would be Legion.

Even with the faster expansion cycles, there'll still be expansion downtimer, so i don't see why not.

Though, with how much of a clusterfuck Remix ended up being, i don't know whether we'll see it again.

[Dracullus]

I imagine WoD would be next. It has some of the best levelling zones and the transmogs and mounts are great. Also Garrisons could be a fun distraction for a few months. Legion after that, obviously.

Zones/dungeons/raids sure, imo they were far better than MoP. Raids overall maybe best in WoW history. It would be crazy to skip it and go straight to Legion, it has same energy as "let's skip Cata Classic and go straight to MoP".

But mounts? Someone has short memory. If anything, they should put recolors of all these store mounts that should belong to reputation vendors instead 50th flavours of wolves and boars.

[Nymrohd]

Zones/dungeons/raids sure, imo they were far better than MoP. Raids overall maybe best in WoW history. It would be crazy to skip it and go straight to Legion, it has same energy as "let's skip Cata Classic and go straight to MoP".

But mounts? Someone has short memory. If anything, they should put recolors of all these store mounts that should belong to reputation vendors instead 50th flavours of wolves and boars.

Oh faerie dragons, ravagers and rylaks! Yeah all of them were gorgeous and should have been the big rewards for reputations or achievements.

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Even with the faster expansion cycles, there'll still be expansion downtimer, so i don't see why not.

Though, with how much of a clusterfuck Remix ended up being, i don't know whether we'll see it again.

There were a lot of lessons to learn (the majority of which should not have made it out of QA) but the current state of remix is imo solid. Again, the only reason frogs were problematic was that they combined hyperspawn with charms.

[Nize]

Even with the faster expansion cycles, there'll still be expansion downtimer, so i don't see why not.

Though, with how much of a clusterfuck Remix ended up being, i don't know whether we'll see it again.

If you take a look at Cata Classic pre-patch launch, Season 4 of Dragonflight, and Remix, you'll see the underlying problem isn't really with Remix. As much as Blizzard bad QA/design has become a meme in recent years, it's been exceedingly so in the last few months. In the WoW forums, I posted about how afraid I was REmix would turn out given how the first few weeks of Dragonflight Season 4 turned out for me. My fears turned into reality. And while it may turn out good now, first impressions are incredibly important since some people will remember the disappointment and frustration this event had when recalling it.

But I do see another Remix happening. There will be less hype for it than this one, even if Legion, given the expectations to come from it now, but I hope Blizzard realizes by now that they really need to put actual effort into testing their product.

[THEORACLE64]

There is nothing new on the topic. that part about magni was already there in the last alpha phases. Try next time when we get real insight.

The blindness in this.

"Magni awoke with new insight into the Radiant Song. Azeroth has been trying to warn us that Khaz Algar, a titan installation from legend, is in danger. Dalaran will teleport to the island to defend it."

The Radiant Song is from Azeroth, like we've all been saying/pointing out the obvious.

[Makorus]

I don't get people saying that the song is not Azeroth.

Literally every single thing is hinting at or saying that it's Azeroth.

But no, Blizzard does the 4D chess thing that the community always act like they do but they never actually do!

[Dracullus]

I don't get people saying that the song is not Azeroth.

Literally every single thing is hinting at or saying that it's Azeroth.

But no, Blizzard does the 4D chess thing that the community always act like they do but they never actually do!

Not to mention it would completely destroy beauty of first cinematic. People can't shut up how Blizzard are worst writers in the universe, but when we hear their ideas.. ugh it hurts.