The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

I mean that aligns with how there are no ghosts of Titan constructs, they don't have actual souls. The titans can be reduced into their constellation forms but the constructs don't work that way.

When a construct gets "curse of flesh"d that is when they start having a soul for whatever reason.

Or the soul is just in the gem core. That makes more sense than millions of souls just popping into existence when the Curse of Flesh happened.

so Xal tries to make alleria her vessel and instead gets absorbed which makes alleria go a bit loony.

midnight is caused by alleria inadvertantly and we get to handle void incursions. Alleria will die and Arator will take his place as the child of light and shadow.

The Child of Light & Shadow doesn't matter anymore. It was illidan & he did wat the Naaru's prophesy did. Or you mean the Vrykul prophesy which was Anduin. How stupid was it that two completely unrelated prophecies used the same nomenclature?

[Cheezits]

Or the soul is just in the gem core. That makes more sense than millions of souls just popping into existence when the Curse of Flesh happened.

Wasn't the Argus/Arbiter explosion because his soul wasn't supposed to go there in the first place? I think the Titans have something set up which means they circumvent ghosts entirely.

Void creating Life is not really out of the question.

[Ersula]

Wasn't the Argus/Arbiter explosion because his soul wasn't supposed to go there in the first place? I think the Titans have something set up which means they circumvent ghosts entirely.

Void creating Life is not really out of the question.

Sure, but then they'd have to reckon with the Earthen being the one playable race that doesn't have a soul. There is going to eventually be some raid mechanic or story contrivance that will make the devs go "Earthen have souls." Farseer Earthen have Ancestor spirits, for example.

[Samin]

What exactly is interesting here?

Implication of expanding Orgrimmar especially towards the sea with stronger industrial presence and a harbor/port

[Foolicious]

Implication of expanding Orgrimmar especially towards the sea with stronger industrial presence and a harbor/port

Did someone show the earthen azshara and bilgewater harbor? Kind of unnecessary to build a second harbor for ogrimmar imo.

[Cheezits]

Sure, but then they'd have to reckon with the Earthen being the one playable race that doesn't have a soul. There is going to eventually be some raid mechanic or story contrivance that will make the devs go "Earthen have souls." Farseer Earthen have Ancestor spirits, for example.

I didn't consider the Veil death runback, but then again it is just gameplay over lore. Only DH's have the lore reason for why they never ever truly die (I am not counting the "Valkyr Spirit Healers & Kyrian don't bring back the PC because it's not their time" as concrete lore)

[Makorus]

Did someone show the earthen azshara and bilgewater harbor? Kind of unnecessary to build a second harbor for ogrimmar imo.

I mean, lorewise, Bilgewater Harbour is not two minutes away from Orgrimmar.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Kind of a weird question/thought... do you think Blizzard will add your Hero Spec title to your character's tooltip?

When you click on or over over a friendly player:

Bigchungus
<Dead Meme>
80 Tauren Farseer/Totemic Restoration Shaman

Personally, I think it would be a cool addition. Especially for players who are not 100% aware of all of the Hero Spec names and encountering a random player in the world with a certain Hero Spec may incentivize to play another class.

[Gurahk]

What exactly is interesting here?

Hints of revamp and more industrial architecture. Also BRF namedropped, which is neat.

[allegrian]

I was looking forward to making an earthen warrior main alt for TWW but their customization options are quite underwhelming compared to normal dwarves(cant choose moustache + beard separately, too much focus on gems that will be covered by armor...), as well as their racials... Should I just go with normal dwarf warrior?

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Rather than the canyon mountains deleted wholesale and replaced by more generic docks and piers like we have already seen in Stormwind/Boralus/Zandalar, I think it would be more unique if instead cavern spaces were excavated inside the canyon mountains so the Horde could have internal cavern docks (which would make the Horde's navy protected from aerial bombardment by Dalaran and Alliance airships, which made it to the Siege of Orgrimmar unimpeded), like the Iron Maidens area inside BRF. Though, adding that onto the current layout of Cata Orgrimmar would make for an increasingly incoherent city. It might be better to just redesign the entire city zone from the ground up.

[huth]

I didn't consider the Veil death runback, but then again it is just gameplay over lore. Only DH's have the lore reason for why they never ever truly die (I am not counting the "Valkyr Spirit Healers & Kyrian don't bring back the PC because it's not their time" as concrete lore)

The DH thing is because they have a Demon soul, which means their soul is Disorder sourced rather than a standard mortal soul. The same could apply to the Earthen with Order.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Hints of revamp and more industrial architecture. Also BRF namedropped, which is neat.

Retvrn to Garrosh. Correct the mistake.

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Rather than the canyon mountains deleted wholesale and replaced by more generic docks and piers like we have already seen in Stormwind/Boralus/Zandalar, I think it would be more unique if instead cavern spaces were excavated inside the canyon mountains so the Horde could have internal cavern docks (which would make the Horde's navy protected from aerial bombardment by Dalaran and Alliance airships, which made it to the Siege of Orgrimmar unimpeded), like the Iron Maidens area inside BRF. Though, adding that onto the current layout of Cata Orgrimmar would make for an increasingly incoherent city. It might be better to just redesign the entire city zone from the ground up.

Cool idea. I'm all for it.

[Xilurm]

What exactly is interesting here?

Even more hints towards a Northern Kalimdor Revamp.

[Jolly Roger]

Or the soul is just in the gem core. That makes more sense than millions of souls just popping into existence when the Curse of Flesh happened.
The Child of Light & Shadow doesn't matter anymore. It was illidan & he did wat the Naaru's prophesy did. Or you mean the Vrykul prophesy which was Anduin. How stupid was it that two completely unrelated prophecies used the same nomenclature?

the whispers and prophecies are unsolved until they are explicitly said to be solved in the game or a book

[Alanar]

Implication of expanding Orgrimmar especially towards the sea with stronger industrial presence and a harbor/port

I see, I just saw it as.. we will maybe get an extra forge in OG and them founding common ground with the Maghar orcs.

I didn't read much more on that tbh.

[Ersula]

the whispers and prophecies are unsolved until they are explicitly said to be solved in the game or a book

The Naaru's prophecy was about who would "defeat the burning legion." They're defeated, babe.

[Alanar]

Even more hints towards a Northern Kalimdor Revamp.

Ye, saw few people saying this. I didn't really read that. More like what I wrote above this quote. Not much more than that.

I'd love a revamp on EK and Kalimdor, don't get me wrong tho.

[Nymrohd]

Rather than the canyon mountains deleted wholesale and replaced by more generic docks and piers like we have already seen in Stormwind/Boralus/Zandalar, I think it would be more unique if instead cavern spaces were excavated inside the canyon mountains so the Horde could have internal cavern docks (which would make the Horde's navy protected from aerial bombardment by Dalaran and Alliance airships, which made it to the Siege of Orgrimmar unimpeded), like the Iron Maidens area inside BRF. Though, adding that onto the current layout of Cata Orgrimmar would make for an increasingly incoherent city. It might be better to just redesign the entire city zone from the ground up.

Also wanted this and don't agree that it would force a redesign. Fly over Ogrimmar and look at the fairly significant real estate just east of the Valley of Honor; a cliffside about three times as large the Valley of Honor itself. You open up the area between the Blacksmith and the PvP building where the water is and create a cavern for the docks with an exit on the cliff facing the sea to the east (possible with fortifications like a chain system that would allow them to block the dock district in case of a siege). And I'd build an industrial area between the Valley of Spirits and the Valley of Wisdom, maybe diverting the Southfury river to pass THROUGH the city so it can power water wheels while dropping to a lower level.

[Enrif]

Interesting wording. So azerite isn't just azeroths blood, but enriched with energies from the sword?

For some time now i began to theorize that azerite, isn't the pure essence of azeroth. The blue and gold coloration always seemed a bit weird, and the mentioning of the gold crystal that is not quite azerite is somewhat supporting that. Blue is the iconic color of arcane stuff, while gold is more aligned with light stuff. I don't think Azerite is infused with energies from Sargeras, as that was depicted black and red from the sword, unless these colors don't matter.