The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nathanyel]

They’ve hinted more recently at races like the Earthen implementing resources/technology from other races.
So maybe they won’t go the race specific route.

It would explain why there's a shared aesthetic between Tinker races (and mirror RL tech development getting "inspired" by or outright stealing from competitors) and at the same time justify that not every race gets unique customizations.

[Teriz]

That already exists via Mechagnomes/rustbolt. Hell in the files they were called junker gnomes for the longest time.
Hell, did you forget about the entire gameplay loop of Mechagon involving “Junkyard tinkering” using spare/scrap parts?

While they were called Junker Gnomes and lived below a scrap heap, their tech was decidedly not junker style;

They’ve hinted more recently at races like the Earthen implementing resources/technology from other races.
So maybe they won’t go the race specific route.

Yeah, the tech class isn't dominated by what the Earthen are doing. The Earthen in regards to a tech class are simply additional tech races for both factions, and possibly an opening to link such a class to Azerite and Titan concepts.

Again, we're having this discussion because of Gazlowe's appearance as a semi-major character in the next expansion. That happened because Gazlowe is the technology hero of Warcraft. It's been that way since at least WC3, so it's baffling how so many posters don't understand that any technology class is going to be filtered through Gazlowe and the Goblin Tinker. It was always going to be that way.

[Ersula]

While they were called Junker Gnomes and lived below a scrap heap, their tech was decidedly not junker style;

Yet vulpera taking up aged, weathered machinery 7 years ago because they never used machinery in Voldun makes more sense to you?

[Teriz]

It's already been 10 years since the model revamps, as much time had passed from Vanilla until the model revamps. But tbh I don't think we're getting them any time soon.

While I don't think we're getting any graphical updates overall, that latest cutscene utilizing in-game assets looked incredibly good. They've definitely upped the graphics in that department.

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Yet vulpera taking up aged, weathered machinery 7 years ago because they never used machinery in Voldun makes more sense to you?

From a class design and technical standpoint, yes. They're using the Goblin skeleton, so utilizing them as an additional tech race for the Horde makes sense. Also them having Goblin tech abilities doesn't clash with their racial lore. Not to mention that it helps that they're a rather popular race.

Oh, and there's also this guy;
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=138151/tinkerin-taji

[FossilFree]

You can give different races different looking mechs, summons (turrets, bots), and mounts if you keep the number of available races for the class limited. Obviously you’re not going to get different visuals for abilities, which is why I doubt they’d incorporate Draenei tech into the mix. It’s far too different from the mechanical tech we see in the majority of tech-based races.

I doubt players would want to roll a Draenei “tinker” that drops pocket factories, Xplodium Charges, or turrets and has a robotic backpack with two robotic limbs.

You speak as if the abilities YOU think a tech class should have dictates what it WILL have. Sorry bud, but just because you've been pushing the pocket factories and explodium stuff for so long as your own personal concept doesn't mean that is how the class will be.

The goblin "artificers" will have to be using crystal turrets, focusing irises, pylons, constructs, and energy weapons derived from cosmic forces. Not any of your ridiculous joke concepts.

[Teriz]

You speak as if the abilities YOU think a tech class should have dictates what it WILL have. Sorry bud, but just because you've been pushing the pocket factories and explodium stuff for so long as your own personal concept doesn't mean that is how the class will be.

The goblin "artificers" will have to be using crystal turrets, focusing irises, pylons, constructs, and energy weapons derived from cosmic forces. Not any of your ridiculous joke concepts.

I disagree. Again, the tech concept is going to be going through the filter of the WC3 Goblin Tinker, so if Draenei are going to be part of the tech class, you're looking at something like this;



And I'm willing to bet that most people would be perfectly fine with that.

For example, a Draenei tinker dropping a Pocket Factory that looks like a Draenei device and pumps out Draenei-looking robots, or a turret that functions exactly like a Goblin or Gnome one, but uses a Draenei model (not a Pylon like Starcraft). That simply works on multiple levels.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Did any of you get access to the Beta? I thought it was guaranteed with Epic Edition but can't see anything on my Bnet launcher

[Cheezits]

Here's how I would do it:

Shredder Mech- for Goblins and Orcs/Mag'har

Arcane Sentry- for all Elves

Gnomish Mech- for Gnomes/Mechagnomes and Dwarves

Crystal Sentry- for all Eredar (including Broken)

4 base styles with recolors to better represent the different subgroups. Maybe they would let you mix and match pieces of the mech? Even if they open it up to all races these would be the mech styles as they are the main engineer groups. You even get two horde and two alliance styles.

I don't think 4 models would be too much to ask.

[Raetary]

Did any of you get access to the Beta? I thought it was guaranteed with Epic Edition but can't see anything on my Bnet launcher

Pretty sure the beta isn't up yet.

Don't expect anything until later tonight.

[Khaza-R]

Here's how I would do it:

Shredder Mech- for Goblins and Orcs/Mag'har

Arcane Sentry- for all Elves

Gnomish Mech- for Gnomes/Mechagnomes and Dwarves

Crystal Sentry- for all Eredar (including Broken)

4 base styles with recolors to better represent the different subgroups. Maybe they would let you mix and match pieces of the mech? Even if they open it up to all races these would be the mech styles as they are the main engineer groups. You even get two horde and two alliance styles.

I don't think 4 models would be too much to ask.

This is similar to how I would handle it. Represent the quintesstial races like goblins and gnomes as "schools of engineering" but not race-lock the class. Leave it up to players to decide if their worgen operating a draenei mech suit delivers the fantasy for them or not.

And who knows, possibly they would be introduced the same time as Ethereals so you could have them presenting a sort of neutral option as well

[nysisyn]

I always loved Gazlowe model in heroes of the storm

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/he...20170714210408

I hope tinker/artificer would have a Steamwarrior spec in full armor and a spec using only arm like Gazlowe or the model datamined by wowhead

[Lady Atia]

Did any of you get access to the Beta? I thought it was guaranteed with Epic Edition but can't see anything on my Bnet launcher

Well, it's still marked as "alpha" on the launcher so I doubt we will get anything 'till later today, possible even after raidnight for EU.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

As reliable as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west... you can rely on a conversation to derail into Tinkers when Teriz shows up.

[Lahis]

Did any of you get access to the Beta? I thought it was guaranteed with Epic Edition but can't see anything on my Bnet launcher

Is beta even up yet?

[Dracullus]

Just realized blizzard=microsoft (I know, I know, but it's easy to forget) and on Sunday there is Xbox game showcase. Imo TWW release day trailer is almost certain (similar how they revealed SL initial date on Gamescom) and D4 expansion big trailer very likely.

[Cheezits]

Just realized blizzard=microsoft (I know, I know, but it's easy to forget) and on Sunday there is Xbox game showcase. Imo TWW release day trailer is almost certain (similar how they revealed SL initial date on Gamescom) and D4 expansion big trailer very likely.

Are we sure we're getting another big trailer with the latest one being in-engine?

[Dracullus]

Are we sure we're getting another big trailer with the latest one being in-engine?

Something like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UANuDDQTNKY

Also, if we are lucky, maybe trailer for next animated short series?

It's just speculation, just can't imagine Xbox show without their newest cash cow.

[Kereberus]

So when should we expect beta drop? 1 PM EST?

[Scyth]

Are we sure we're getting another big trailer with the latest one being in-engine?

DF had two so it's very likely we will get another one imo.
Hope so at least, first one was pretty disappointing to me so I hope they release a second one with more action in it..

[Ersula]

So when should we expect beta drop? 1 PM EST?

no scheduled release time generally means 11:59 pm