The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[SunspotAnims]

There's a new survey going out now accessible from the Battle.net launcher for whoever's selected. Some of it's referring to existing content or expected features (class updates, profession updates, etc.) but there's some new stuff mentioned:

• Class order halls becoming a permanent feature with new quests and progression
• Being able to use your Warband alts as party members in follower dungeons and delves
• Reworked new/returning player experience with lore catch up
• In-game lore guide with some kind of exploration mechanic and associated rewards
• Customizable character select screens, including being able to display mounts and pets
• Adding new customization for existing races and new emotes
• "Variety of PvP opportunities", listed separately from updating BGs/arenas

Yes to all.

[Hugnomo]

There's a new survey going out now accessible from the Battle.net launcher for whoever's selected. Some of it's referring to existing content or expected features (class updates, profession updates, etc.) but there's some new stuff mentioned:

• Class order halls becoming a permanent feature with new quests and progression
• Being able to use your Warband alts as party members in follower dungeons and delves
• Reworked new/returning player experience with lore catch up
• In-game lore guide with some kind of exploration mechanic and associated rewards
• Customizable character select screens, including being able to display mounts and pets
• Adding new customization for existing races and new emotes
• "Variety of PvP opportunities", listed separately from updating BGs/arenas

*drooling profusely*

[Treegdar]

Login screen really looks like it would change with time/patches.

Assuming that TWW ends with a Xalatath victory I definitely could see the cracks turning purple as patches progress and maybe it crumbles and reveals the world soul or something in the last patch.

[Golden Yak]

There's a new survey going out now accessible from the Battle.net launcher for whoever's selected. Some of it's referring to existing content or expected features (class updates, profession updates, etc.) but there's some new stuff mentioned:

• Class order halls becoming a permanent feature with new quests and progression
• Being able to use your Warband alts as party members in follower dungeons and delves
• Reworked new/returning player experience with lore catch up
• In-game lore guide with some kind of exploration mechanic and associated rewards
• Customizable character select screens, including being able to display mounts and pets
• Adding new customization for existing races and new emotes
• "Variety of PvP opportunities", listed separately from updating BGs/arenas

I like it. I main death knight, we can literally fly our class hall around, we can park it anywhere the new content is.

An in-game lorebible that has some kind of points or breadcrumbs leading you to rewards could be fun. Get some cosmetics and force people to soak up the lore.

[Chickat]

Theres been almost no info or testing on outdoor endgame content this beta cycle. No idea why. Devs said they were changing world quests in some way. I want to know how outdoor content looks. Same as DF?

[Treegdar]

There's a new survey going out now accessible from the Battle.net launcher for whoever's selected. Some of it's referring to existing content or expected features (class updates, profession updates, etc.) but there's some new stuff mentioned:

• Class order halls becoming a permanent feature with new quests and progression
• Being able to use your Warband alts as party members in follower dungeons and delves
• Reworked new/returning player experience with lore catch up
• In-game lore guide with some kind of exploration mechanic and associated rewards
• Customizable character select screens, including being able to display mounts and pets
• Adding new customization for existing races and new emotes
• "Variety of PvP opportunities", listed separately from updating BGs/arenas

The reworked new/returning player stuff is desperately needed. I get what they were trying to do with the new experience thing they created a few years ago, but it feels a little too tutorial-y imo. Like if you need the basics of how to do quests explained in detail maybe the game isn't for you. I get its a different era, but you always hear about players falling in love with the game by just exploring whats out there and their first realization of just how big it is. Having a very simple tutorial mode followed by being forced into one very linear xpac where all the npcs are treating you like a big shot feels wrong.

Also the lore catch up/exploration has the potential to be very cool. Maybe be able to do a solo couple hour run through of each xpacs main story points including raids using the new story mode & follower dungeons.

[Chickat]

There's a new survey going out now accessible from the Battle.net launcher for whoever's selected. Some of it's referring to existing content or expected features (class updates, profession updates, etc.) but there's some new stuff mentioned:

• Class order halls becoming a permanent feature with new quests and progression
• Being able to use your Warband alts as party members in follower dungeons and delves
• Reworked new/returning player experience with lore catch up
• In-game lore guide with some kind of exploration mechanic and associated rewards
• Customizable character select screens, including being able to display mounts and pets
• Adding new customization for existing races and new emotes
• "Variety of PvP opportunities", listed separately from updating BGs/arenas

Do you have any screenshots or proof?

[Nightshade711]

Came across this once again.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-old...e-lines-330479

Knowing Presence whispers:
With many eyes, they will see again. They will drink, and be uplifted.
Deeper, deeper its roots will reach. Welcoming our embrace.
Her dreams sing beneath the surface. Our dreams. Our song.

[Kiivar86]

There's a new survey going out now accessible from the Battle.net launcher for whoever's selected. Some of it's referring to existing content or expected features (class updates, profession updates, etc.) but there's some new stuff mentioned:

• Class order halls becoming a permanent feature with new quests and progression
• Being able to use your Warband alts as party members in follower dungeons and delves
• Reworked new/returning player experience with lore catch up
• In-game lore guide with some kind of exploration mechanic and associated rewards
• Customizable character select screens, including being able to display mounts and pets
• Adding new customization for existing races and new emotes
• "Variety of PvP opportunities", listed separately from updating BGs/arenas

Where would this be located on the launcher? Is it obvious? Just so I know what to look for!

[Polybius]

My guy, corporations can absolutely be inoculated from the actual desires of their consumer base and defer to corporate trends on account of a localized feedback loop sending false signals about what their customers want. Second, how do you think market research works? I've actually studied marketing and I understand how it works—market research is not infallible, nor is it always conducted correctly. They could've run this by a skewed focus group or, again, just bypassed focus groups or surveys in favor of taking widespread acceptance of this artstyle from other companies as indicative that consumers like it instead of recognizing it as the feedback loop I'm fairly certain it is.

This reminds me of test screening groups completely ruining films. Gotta love response bias.

[allegrian]

They are not asking about player housing

[Murlocos]

Do you have any screenshots or proof?

Here were the topics brought up. This reminds me I forgot the itemization overhaul mentioned as well. Maybe they're trying to make non-weapon/jewelry slots more than just stat sticks.

Where would this be located on the launcher? Is it obvious? Just so I know what to look for!

Scroll down a bit with WoW selected, here's where it was for me.

[Polybius]

What makes you say this?

Came across this once again.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-old...e-lines-330479

There's a lot we're not being told (*yet*) about the roots from a plucked world tree. The harronir have quest items and kill objectives related to it.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

This reminds me of test screening groups completely ruining films. Gotta love response bias.

Pour one out for Black Cauldron.

[Eldryth]

Theres been almost no info or testing on outdoor endgame content this beta cycle. No idea why. Devs said they were changing world quests in some way. I want to know how outdoor content looks. Same as DF?

I haven't tried it, since the endgame server doesn't have open world stuff, but I can see on the new zone maps that there's a new thing called Special Assignments. It looks to be some kind of quest that you unlock after doing 3 World Quests in a specific zone, and it gives a cache that can contain Veteran gear. It looks like there's just one up at a time, and judging from the reset time I think you'll see two per week (changing at the same time as most of Dragonflight's launch WQs).

[AOL Instant Messenger]

There's a new survey going out now accessible from the Battle.net launcher for whoever's selected. Some of it's referring to existing content or expected features (class updates, profession updates, etc.) but there's some new stuff mentioned:

• Class order halls becoming a permanent feature with new quests and progression
• Being able to use your Warband alts as party members in follower dungeons and delves
• Reworked new/returning player experience with lore catch up
• In-game lore guide with some kind of exploration mechanic and associated rewards
• Customizable character select screens, including being able to display mounts and pets
• Adding new customization for existing races and new emotes
• "Variety of PvP opportunities", listed separately from updating BGs/arenas

Oh wow. Some of these are really a step up.

I'd say perma class orders, exploration rewards, new PvP opportunities, and new customization/emotes all sound pretty sweet.

[Kiivar86]

Here were the topics brought up. This reminds me I forgot the itemization overhaul mentioned as well. Maybe they're trying to make non-weapon/jewelry slots more than just stat sticks.



Scroll down a bit with WoW selected, here's where it was for me.

Appreciate it, I have it too. I should really scroll a bit eh?

[Ersula]

Oh wow. Some of these are really a step up.

I'd say perma class orders, exploration rewards, new PvP opportunities, and new customization/emotes all sound pretty sweet.

I had really hopped class orders or covenants (the organizations, not the abilities) had become permenant features instead of expansion specific ones.

[Kiivar86]

If they bring back class halls I do hope they revamp them considerably. We're definitely losing two as-is (the rogues' and mages', naturally), and some of the others are just...mediocre (hunters', warriors').

[Baraden]

There's a new survey going out now accessible from the Battle.net launcher for whoever's selected. Some of it's referring to existing content or expected features (class updates, profession updates, etc.) but there's some new stuff mentioned:

• Class order halls becoming a permanent feature with new quests and progression
• Being able to use your Warband alts as party members in follower dungeons and delves
• Reworked new/returning player experience with lore catch up
• In-game lore guide with some kind of exploration mechanic and associated rewards
• Customizable character select screens, including being able to display mounts and pets
• Adding new customization for existing races and new emotes
• "Variety of PvP opportunities", listed separately from updating BGs/arenas

Order Halls should be evergreen, such an amazing piece of class identity