The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Chickat]

Well, kinda disappointing, set bonuses are out and they are like DF S1 bonuses.

They said S1 talents gonna be tied to Hero Talents, so it means they weren't able to do it (considering the state of some of those trees) so they went for some quick, safe and boring bonuses.

Isnt it common for most S1 bonuses to be safe anyways?

[xskarma]

Aren't the intro tier bonuses always kinda vanilla anyway, cause they assume we need to get a hang of the new rotation and buttons from whatever overhaul happened with the expansion? Seems par for the course.

[Kiivar86]

Seems the broom mount won't be able to skyride, pity.

[Makabreska]

Isnt it common for most S1 bonuses to be safe anyways?

Aren't the intro tier bonuses always kinda vanilla anyway, cause they assume we need to get a hang of the new rotation and buttons from whatever overhaul happened with the expansion? Seems par for the course.

No, they used this excuse for DF S1, because we just received the biggest overhaul of classes/specs.

I'm not hating it, but some of these bonuses are painfully boring, and they DID say they will be tied to Hero Specs.

[Lady Atia]

No, they used this excuse for DF S1, because we just received the biggest overhaul of classes/specs.

I'm not hating it, but some of these bonuses are painfully boring, and they DID say they will be tied to Hero Specs.

Tbf, I think they only said that in one group interview and even that wasn't 100% clear iirc.

[Hitei]

Well, kinda disappointing, set bonuses are out and they are like DF S1 bonuses.

They said S1 talents gonna be tied to Hero Talents, so it means they weren't able to do it (considering the state of some of those trees) so they went for some quick, safe and boring bonuses.

I seem to recall that this specific claim was always questionable and possibly misquoted. There was something about the phrasing of the follow-up sentence that did not make any sense with the statement as was.

[Ersula]

It's strange WoWhead would report that Earthen can no longer can be death knights before we can check on the playable build. Besides the race preview, Blizzard made no comments confirming it when Race Previews have gotten class options wrong before: In fact they get them wrong pretty frequently. Zandalari were had paladin & warlock incorrectly labeled... Kul Tirans lacked mage... Lightforged were missing Hunter, etc.

[Hitei]

It's strange WoWhead would report that Earthen can no longer can be death knights before we can check on the playable build. Besides the race preview, Blizzard made no comments confirming it when Race Previews have gotten class options wrong before: In fact they get them wrong pretty frequently. Zandalari were had paladin & warlock incorrectly labeled... Kul Tirans lacked mage... Lightforged were missing Hunter, etc.

I believe this was already the case. I seem to recall seeing Alpha videos recently where people sitting on Earthen in the character creation screen had DK greyed out.

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From 3 weeks ago. So it was actually changed several builds back.

[Lady Atia]

I believe this was already the case. I seem to recall seeing Alpha videos recently where people sitting on Earthen in the character creation screen had DK greyed out.

Yeah, I was never able to create an earthen dk sadly.

[Avikur]

I realise the beta servers aren't up yet but when you try to log in is anyone else's UI scaling funny and their monitor listed as 'Generic PnP monitor'?

[Cheezits]

While it would've been fun to have Earthen DKs be Northrend Earthren, they seem set on the Northrend Earthen keeping their unique looks and not just pretending they looked like KA Earthen all along. So it's probably locked to lore and a new unique starting experience that may be just for the post-BFA races (Dracthyr, Earthen, Harronir, etc), or I can see them making a brand new experience for ALL Death Knights because their starting zone is locked so far behind.

[Kiivar86]

Anyway, datamining, there's a mount called Hand of Reshkigaal. New Hand mount or maybe something else and I'm just taking the "Hand" part too literal?

Reshkigaal is clearly derived from Ereshkigal though.

Yup its a hand mount, Trading Post.

Also a Zereth Mortis jellyfish mount in the Trading Post it seems.

[huth]

Not sure whether we can pin any outright lie on Zovaal,, but his underlings definitely employ deception.

Using Anduin to get the Kyrian seal is most definitely deception at least, and that was under Zovaal's direct control.

[Treegdar]

I was hopeful new M0 would be available to try and push in pre-season. Now it looks like heroic won't even be available. Guess the pre-order access is less of a big deal now, but the opening weeks of the xpac becomes so much more boring if the only group content available is normal dungeons. Really hope they shorten the preseason window now to like 1 week.

[huth]

While it would've been fun to have Earthen DKs be Northrend Earthren, they seem set on the Northrend Earthen keeping their unique looks and not just pretending they looked like KA Earthen all along. So it's probably locked to lore and a new unique starting experience that may be just for the post-BFA races (Dracthyr, Earthen, Harronir, etc), or I can see them making a brand new experience for ALL Death Knights because their starting zone is locked so far behind.

There's also the possibility that Earthen simply cannot be raised into Undeath. We didn't see any undead Earthen in WotLK either.

[FossilFree]

Christ, going through the past few pages and it’s insane how toxic & unpleasant some of the thread “regulars” get when someone has a difference of opinion to them. Even more insane that it doesn’t seem to be frowned upon. Strange behaviour.

Hypocrite much?

If you believe that the majority of players who pre purchased for beta access did so to test and report bugs then I have some magic beans to sell you.

[SilverLion]

I hate doing comparisons, but why can ffxiv release an expansion with almost no bugs without any external testing while wow can't? probably because the qa at blizzard sucks

This is patently false. Just needed to clarify ff14 has a ton of errors on launch. You clearly never player Stormblood on launch

[Cheezits]

There's also the possibility that Earthen simply cannot be raised into Undeath. We didn't see any undead Earthen in WotLK either.

I really don't think they would've flubbed that lore so easily at launch reveal. The BFA class combo choices and errors were to "keep things fair" between factions, even with the stupid justification for no KT Mages.

Considering they were playable on the alpha I don't think lore would've gotten in the way of something like that. It's Blizz, lore is not king.

[Ersula]

While it would've been fun to have Earthen DKs be Northrend Earthren, they seem set on the Northrend Earthen keeping their unique looks and not just pretending they looked like KA Earthen all along. So it's probably locked to lore and a new unique starting experience that may be just for the post-BFA races (Dracthyr, Earthen, Harronir, etc), or I can see them making a brand new experience for ALL Death Knights because their starting zone is locked so far behind.

But as it was, the Earthen Death Knights simply started in the normal Earthen starting zone & it didn't create any problems. They could be cheeky and say Death Knight Earthen's primary job is composting.

[THEORACLE64]

I realise the beta servers aren't up yet but when you try to log in is anyone else's UI scaling funny and their monitor listed as 'Generic PnP monitor'?

Yeah, same here.