The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Jaggler]

That would work too. And yeah Gazlowe is the obvious second pick so the Horde gets a turn.

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Playing the expansion and going back to the idea of Horde being included, there is no reason why Jaina is so front and center. They could have used a different Dalaran character that would be a better balance. heck use Aethas he is already there.

Aethas would have also continued smoothly into Midnight.

[Auxis]

Why would you have been able to? Aberrus was Neltharion's secret lab, he didn't want people to wander in by accident.

The sunshafts are a bit more questionable, though that might be for technical reasons. The whole seamless transition thing doesn't always work properly for Zaralek, sometimes i just get stuck and have to relog to unstuck.

The seamless transition in Zaralek usually has a boulder/wall at the end of the tunnel going in for me. And it takes about a second for it to despawn. It actually slows me down if it collide with it, so it's a physical asset that doesn't despawn/phase out in quick enough, it would seem.

[Lady Atia]

That would work too. And yeah Gazlowe is the obvious second pick so the Horde gets a turn.

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Playing the expansion and going back to the idea of Horde being included, there is no reason why Jaina is so front and center. They could have used a different Dalaran character that would be a better balance. heck use Aethas he is already there.

Hell no, leave Jaina alone. What is it with you guys and the need to bench the few good female characters we have??

One of the reasons Dragonflight felt disconnected and unimportant was because we didn't had our big heroes with us this time. It's good to see the gang back together (minus Baine haha but it seems like Gazlowe takes that spot in order to give us a guide for Kezan later).

Also, in Dragonflight my own character felt less important aswell simply because we weren't part of the "gang" anymore, just some adventurer idk. WoD/Legion/BfA/Shadowlands atleast made you feel like you are the actual hero of the story, not the aspects (who always felt like they are above us in Dragonflight, unlike the gang that made us feel like we were one of them).

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Season 1 would have been the season to do a Nerubian. They’ll likely shrink in terms of importance after this patch. Similar to why we didn’t have Nightborne invading Argus with us.

Season 1 - Brann
Season 2 - Gazlowe
Season 3 - Harronir I imagine if Rootlands is the final patch zone.

Yeah and season 4 could easily give us a bronze or infinite dragon to play with the whole fated/awakened theme again. Also if the delve system works they will have to give a new npc for every season until the game dies. I'm wondering if they will ever give us the option to use old ones though? Maybe if you reach max upgrades with the current season npc you can also choose an older one?

[Nymrohd]

The seamless transition in Zaralek usually has a boulder/wall at the end of the tunnel going in for me. And it takes about a second for it to despawn. It actually slows me down if it collide with it, so it's a physical asset that doesn't despawn/phase out in quick enough, it would seem.

Damn I guess old PC? For me it does work as seamless.
I think the sunshafts cannot work because they just need long corridors that look almost the same to get the illusion to work and those would just be straight down.

Btw Dornogal is massive, especially considering it's also very vertical.

[Santandame]

That would work too. And yeah Gazlowe is the obvious second pick so the Horde gets a turn.

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Playing the expansion and going back to the idea of Horde being included, there is no reason why Jaina is so front and center. They could have used a different Dalaran character that would be a better balance. heck use Aethas he is already there.

Jaina is essentially one of the main characters of Warcraft at this point. She's in the top 3 with Anduin and Thrall. I think its fine using her for TWW, she's pretty much our go to Mage character at this point; it makes sense with the Dalaran situation.

Aethas is most definitely going to be playing a major role in Midnight, whereas Jaina likely won't be showing up unless Azshara is the villain and we get a big sorceress showdown. I imagine we'll be seeing the Elf equivalent of the Avengers in Midnight as the main cast so expect Alleria, Lor'themar, Arathor, Vereesa, Thalyssra, Aethas, Liadrin, Rommath, Halduron Brightwing, Umbric and of course the shock return of Sylvanas.

I can't see the Night Elves being too prominent. Outside of those Elves, who else will we get in a prominent role for Midnight? Turalyon? Voss? Calia? I think it depends entirely on if Lordaeron is included and to a lesser extent - Azuremyst. Although I'm of the opinion that the expansion following The World Soul Saga will be set on Northern Kalimdor if Blizz are holding off on Avaloren.

[Schwert]

Horde players somehow mad they aren't the main character.
Jaina's cool. I'll take that over Saurfang and Sylvanas's cinematic adventures and what happened in Warlords.

[Xilurm]

The stuff Ion says in this video at 2:40 and then at 3:20 make me glad they are actually taking a step back when it comes to which classes should be allowed for what races. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason why Earthen can't be DK's in beta anymore.

Them actually caring about the narrative and themes of certain race/class combos is really good news. At the end of the day this game is also an RPG that has a lore that's been built for the past few decades.

They shouldn't just give every class to every race even if it doesn't make sense because some people that couldn't care less about the world and the lore just wanna log in and do their mythic run and log out and not care about the game or its world pass that.

[huth]

The seamless transition in Zaralek usually has a boulder/wall at the end of the tunnel going in for me. And it takes about a second for it to despawn. It actually slows me down if it collide with it, so it's a physical asset that doesn't despawn/phase out in quick enough, it would seem.

Worse, sometimes it just doesn't load right and you're stuck in a weird state of not being in either zone and have no choice but to close WoW and restart.

[Lady Atia]

The stuff Ion says in this video at 2:40 and then at 3:20 make me glad they are actually taking a step back when it comes to which classes should be allowed for what classes. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason why Earthen can't be DK's in beta anymore.

Them actually caring about the narrative and themes of certain race/class combos is really good news. At the end of the day this game is also an RPG that has a lore that's been built for the past few decades.

They shouldn't just give every class to every race even if it doesn't make sense because some people that couldn't care less about the world and the lore just wanna log in and do their mythic run and log out and not care about the game or its world pass that.

Nope, sorry but no dk's for earthen is bullshit. We know they have souls and you can use necromancy to re-animate constructs, the scourge did it back in Warcraft III.

[huth]

which classes should be allowed for what classes.

*whisper* races. Races.

[Nymrohd]

Very happy they will actually do the work and give a reason for more class/race combos.

Why not Dracthyr Druid though? They can channel the green flight's skills

[Khaza-R]

The stuff Ion says in this video at 2:40 and then at 3:20 make me glad they are actually taking a step back when it comes to which classes should be allowed for what classes. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason why Earthen can't be DK's in beta anymore.

Them actually caring about the narrative and themes of certain race/class combos is really good news. At the end of the day this game is also an RPG that has a lore that's been built for the past few decades.

They shouldn't just give every class to every race even if it doesn't make sense because some people that couldn't care less about the world and the lore just wanna log in and do their mythic run and log out and not care about the game or its world pass that.

I don't know that I would sing them any praises because it feels more like laziness than anything.

I am entirely convinced that "all classes, all races" really meant they were going to approach it in the most generic sense possible by not doing race specific customizations and just adding generic assets as a one-size fits all solution. But it was after there was some backlash of them adding generic NPCs and combos with no explanation they backtracked from the idea alltogther. So idk how much they care about the lore. I think they just don't want to put in the extra work the community is looking for.

[Xilurm]

Nope, sorry but no dk's for earthen is bullshit. We know they have souls and you can use necromancy to re-animate constructs, the scourge did it back in Warcraft III.

But who's going to raise them? This is after Shadowlands. Bolvar isn't there anymore.

TLT would be a good time to give them DK's given we're going back to Northrend.

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*whisper* races. Races.

Oops. I wrote "what races for which classes" first but it didn't feel right, so I tried changing it but forgot to change the 2nd classes to races.

[Nymrohd]

Horde players somehow mad they aren't the main character.
Jaina's cool. I'll take that over Saurfang and Sylvanas's cinematic adventures and what happened in Warlords.

Here is the thing, Jaina has no story.
Alleria has to be there, she was pretty much reintroduced in Legion as our go to for Void themes.
Magni and his family make sense; Magni ties with Azeroth and you'd want a dwarf to talk with the Earthen.
Anduin is the better option for interaction with the Arathi. You want a Human who has ties with the Light and Anduin just makes more sense since he has an ongoing story that works great with the Arathi (and even better with Faerin)

But what about Jaina? Is it because of Dalaran? Jaina is not part of the Council of Six anymore. She also has not character arc at the moment. Pretty much every one of her arcs has been resolved with BfA.
Same thing with Thrall but apparently they forgot they resolved him reconnecting with the elements back in SL. Can't blame them I am trying to forget SL too and unlike them, I was not drunk for most of it.

[Teriz]

Ugh. It's despicable how they bowed to pressure from a vocal minority to make Dracthyr open to other classes. Now there's going to be nothing but more complaining about clipping, transmog, and other crap from the crybabies.

[Xilurm]

Ugh. It's despicable how they bowed to pressure from a vocal minority to make Dracthyr open to other classes. Now there's going to be nothing but more complaining about clipping, transmog, and other crap from the crybabies.

I assume most people will play as Visage mostly.

[Civciv]

Earthens should be given Druid class, they have druids on Khaz'Algar

[Nymrohd]

Earthens should be given Druid class, they have druids on Khaz'Algar

Really? Where? What forms do they use?

[Teriz]

I assume most people will play as Visage mostly.

Yeah, and that completely defeats the purpose of rolling a dracthyr in the first place. I even hear people saying they want Evokers to stay in visage form 100% of the time. At least this might stop that stupidity from being discussed, but I doubt it.

[Ersula]

Ugh. It's despicable how they bowed to pressure from a vocal minority to make Dracthyr open to other classes. Now there's going to be nothing but more complaining about clipping, transmog, and other crap from the crybabies.

If it doesn't make sense for Earthen to be Death Knights, how tf does it make sense that they have Dracthyr & Earthen Monks? The Celestials are man-made gods, created by the Pandaran. WoW Monks are even more specific than Death Knights.