The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lahis]

This Class Order Hall talk has me thinking. Let’s say for arguments sake, that Class Halls return in The Last Titan. Now because of the destroyed ones such as the Mage and Rogue halls, as well as Skyhold being in control of Odyn so the Warriors find themselves out on their ear - Blizz decides to give everyone new locations for the halls. Where do you think we’d get? Would you even want new ones or would you rather keep what we had? Like the Broken Isles, have some of them in the new Northrend?

Only two of the Order halls were actually on Broken Isles.

Druids already can travel from Dreamgrove to across Azeroth via the Emerald Dream way, so that is not a problem.

The Hunters' Trueshot lodge is bit more problematic. It would require portals to and from Northrend but many Order Halls already did th in Legion.

Mages and Rogues would naturally need new bases. I could see Kalecgos setting up new Mage Order hall in the Nexus. Rogues are harder to think a thematic base on Northrend. Maybe some fresh post-WLK pirate harbor somewhere on the coast?

And there is no way Odyn will not be villain in TLT, so Warriors would also need new place instead of Halls of Valor (which never was th good TBH), but setting up new barracks/gladiator pit on Northrend is not th much of a stretch.

[Varodoc]

Only two of the Order halls were actually on Broken Isles.

Druids already can travel from Dreamgrove to across Azeroth via the Emerald Dream way, so that is not a problem.

The Hunters' Trueshot lodge is bit more problematic. It would require portals to and from Northrend but many Order Halls already did th in Legion.

Mages and Rogues would naturally need new bases. I could see Kalecgos setting up new Mage Order hall in the Nexus. Rogues are harder to think a thematic base on Northrend. Maybe some fresh post-WLK pirate harbor somewhere on the coast?

And there is no way Odyn will not be villain in TLT, so Warriors would also need new place instead of Halls of Valor (which never was th good TBH), but setting up new barracks/gladiator pit on Northrend is not th much of a stretch.

Yeah, but the Priest order hall was trash without personality, so if they revisit Order Halls, they should change it.

They could instead give Priests Onslaught Harbour, to go along with the "Inquisitor" theme they introduced for Holy and Discipline in Legion. This base has always felt unique, due to its remote location and reddish tone compared to Icecrown. I want to see it updated to 2028 standards.




For Hunters, I want a lodge in Grizzly Hills:

[Santandame]

I would go for:

Mage - The Nexus
Hunter - Amberpine Lodge or Silverbrook in the Grizzly Hills
Warrior - Amphitheatre of Anguish in Zul'drak
Priest - Onslaught Harbour as @Varodoc suggested is a good one, alternatively New Hearthglen
Warlock - This one is tricky. Dreadscar Rift wasn't great in my opinion. I can't think of anywhere in Northrend that would feel fitting for them. Possibly Black Temple? But that has no link to Northrend so I'm stumped for Warlocks.
Rogue - The pirate cove in Howling Fjord
Evoker - Wyrmrest Temple
Shaman - River's Heart in Sholazar Basin
Druid - Cystalsong Forest
Death Knights - Archerus again but over Icecrown
Paladin - Lights Hope Chapel was ideal and has obvious links to Northrend in terms of a throwback to Wrath.

Just like Warlocks, I'm stumped for Monks and Demon Hunters if we're going off a Northrend theme.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I would go for:

Mage - The Nexus
Hunter - Amberpine Lodge or Silverbrook in the Grizzly Hills
Warrior - Amphitheatre of Anguish in Zul'drak
Priest - Onslaught Harbour as @Varodoc suggested is a good one, alternatively New Hearthglen
Warlock - This one is tricky. Dreadscar Rift wasn't great in my opinion. I can't think of anywhere in Northrend that would feel fitting for them. Possibly Black Temple? But that has no link to Northrend so I'm stumped for Warlocks.
Rogue - The pirate cove in Howling Fjord
Evoker - Wyrmrest Temple
Shaman - River's Heart in Sholazar Basin
Druid - Cystalsong Forest
Death Knights - Archerus again but over Icecrown
Paladin - Lights Hope Chapel was ideal and has obvious links to Northrend in terms of a throwback to Wrath.

Just like Warlocks, I'm stumped for Monks and Demon Hunters if we're going off a Northrend theme.

Not bad. I like some of these ideas. For Warlocks, maybe some hidden lair of Mal'ganis or an ancient nerubian library full of dark magic?

[Darkarath]

I think that Class Order Halls could come as soon as Midnight and be expanded upon. Maybe even mixed with Housing.

They just should make The Void destroy them all and we, as the heroes, have to rebuild them in a different place, hopefully as an evergreen system.

[Makorus]

I would go for:

Mage - The Nexus
Hunter - Amberpine Lodge or Silverbrook in the Grizzly Hills
Warrior - Amphitheatre of Anguish in Zul'drak
Priest - Onslaught Harbour as @Varodoc suggested is a good one, alternatively New Hearthglen
Warlock - This one is tricky. Dreadscar Rift wasn't great in my opinion. I can't think of anywhere in Northrend that would feel fitting for them. Possibly Black Temple? But that has no link to Northrend so I'm stumped for Warlocks.
Rogue - The pirate cove in Howling Fjord
Evoker - Wyrmrest Temple
Shaman - River's Heart in Sholazar Basin
Druid - Cystalsong Forest
Death Knights - Archerus again but over Icecrown
Paladin - Lights Hope Chapel was ideal and has obvious links to Northrend in terms of a throwback to Wrath.

Just like Warlocks, I'm stumped for Monks and Demon Hunters if we're going off a Northrend theme.

Not having ICC for DKs would be such a waste.

[Gurahk]

Well, this is interesting.

[milkmustache]

Not having ICC for DKs would be such a waste.

I'm not sure what the situation is with ICC lorewise post Shadowlands, but I agree. They've earned it.

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Well, this is interesting.

This has been in the alpha builds, but still comes as one of the most exciting potential pieces of future hinting. The Horde modernizing alongside the Mag'har and Earthen while still maintaining Horde aesthetic is a knock out of the park.

This and the orc heritage quest seemingly keep pointing towards an Orgrimmar revamp at some point

[Lahis]

Druid - Cystalsong Forest

Crystalsong isn't very druidic. Half of the zone ha been crystallized by arcane blast.

I still think the Dream grove would work fine. There is already a Dream portal to Grizzly Hills in there.

[Alanar]

Not having ICC for DKs would be such a waste.

Yea, I agree. So much better then reusing Archeus for 4th time or so. Icc, should be available.

[huth]

Only two of the Order halls were actually on Broken Isles.

Druids already can travel from Dreamgrove to across Azeroth via the Emerald Dream way, so that is not a problem.

The Hunters' Trueshot lodge is bit more problematic. It would require portals to and from Northrend but many Order Halls already did th in Legion.

Mages and Rogues would naturally need new bases. I could see Kalecgos setting up new Mage Order hall in the Nexus. Rogues are harder to think a thematic base on Northrend. Maybe some fresh post-WLK pirate harbor somewhere on the coast?

And there is no way Odyn will not be villain in TLT, so Warriors would also need new place instead of Halls of Valor (which never was th good TBH), but setting up new barracks/gladiator pit on Northrend is not th much of a stretch.

It makes sense for Rogues to just set up shop in some dark corner near the action anyway. Even Dalaran sewers was simply a matter of convenience for them. Similar for the Hunters, building a new lodge in Grizzly Hills seems appropriate and there was enough time to have done that. Logically, they should have one on any continent they operate on anyway.

Druids don't seem like they'd even need a change; their hall is easily accessible to them at any time they so choose, even in lore. Same for DKs and Monks, with the added benefit of them being mobile.

Mages and Warriors definitely need a new place. Maybe Thorim could be convinced to take the latter in, he was a more amenable guy anyway and he owes us some. Probably some big but less bombastic mead hall with a focus on getting hammered.

[Alanar]

Well, this is interesting.

What exactly is interesting here?

[huth]

Yea, I agree. So much better then reusing Archeus for 4th time or so. Icc, should be available.

I mean, you could just have Archerus hovering around ICC and get both effectively.

[Dracullus]

Before Blizzard reintroduce Class Halls I would like to rethink what to do with them. In Legion, when we cut stuff you could do in less than week (although different intros and class chapters here and there were really nice), day-to-day gameplay of halls were mission table and upgrading artifact.

[Santandame]

If Class Halls did come back in The Last Titan, I imagine the warrior intro quest would be something along the lines of the Battle of Skyhold where the mead hall erupts into mayhem with the warriors fighting the Valarjar. Have the warriors get a few badass moments taking out some of the well known established Valarjar characters from Legion before Odyn joins the fray and yeets the player character down through the hole they used to jump down into the Broken Isles through.

[Zardas]

One of the Earthen NPCs in Stormwind talks about working in the forge for "hundreds of millennia" ... these guys are absurdly ancient. Almost seems like an error.

Even if they are not that old, they are still very old, and old people get senile.

[Kiivar86]

I kinda don't want class halls to return, honestly. They vary in such quality that it ends up feeling like "why'd you even bother?" with some of them. Granted, I'm spoiled as a mage main, the mage class hall is amazing (RIP though because yeah that ain't returning, that's for sure) but some of the others...

Then again, I've been against other ideas in the past (i.e. someone proposed something some years back along the lines of what we got for dragonriding, and at the time I didn't like it but I adore dragonriding ) that I've since liked so maybe I should just see what, if anything, comes.

But still, RIP to the mage hall. I love that place.

Even if they are not that old, they are still very old, and old people get senile.

Also could just be using hyperbole.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Even if they are not that old, they are still very old, and old people get senile.

Are there any Titan constructs that have mental issues due to age?

The only problems they seem to ever have is due to damage or corruption.

[Raetary]

Are there any Titan constructs that have mental issues due to age?

Isn't that exactly the Earthen memory gem plot?

That if they don't get their gems wiped and body recharged they start suffering from dementia before they inevitably shut off completely?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Isn't that exactly the Earthen memory gem plot?

That if they don't get their gems wiped and body recharged they start suffering from dementia before they inevitably shut off completely?

Ah didn’t know that was a thing I’ve not looked at like any beta quest lines.

I guess it should be a problem then.