The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Do you remember without going back to check or looking at pictures, what revamped Lor'danel looks like? There's a few features in particular that really stand out, do you have an idea what they are? If you think on it, can you picture the revamped Lor'daenl in comparison to the Cata version? How well did it actually hold your interest? If I ask you to picture Brennadam, the big town in Stormsong Valley (are you an Alliance player?) can you picture that more clearly than you can picture BfA's version of Lor'danel?.

Lor'danel Got filled with blight and some of those blight machines from wrath put in and I want to say had one or two buildings knocked over. I likely have a clearer picture of Brennadam due to questing through given that I’ve likely leveled through it like 8 or so times (am alliance) but none quest areas I’ve likely only flown by grabbing honey for the bee.

[Cheezits]

There is no Sun/Solar lore with the Night Elfs, that's Tauren stuff and maybe a bit Blood Elf stuff as well.

They are called NIGHT Elf for a reason. In the past they were weaker during the night but idk if thats still canon (nobody seems to care).

Maybe it is a new addition for the future for them? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me to give them this sun aspect but writers at Blizz may think its cooooooooooool!

No, the Night Elves have had a racial since launch where they get a certain stat increase during the daytime. I'm not sure if the sun thing is used elsewhere.

[Abraxan]

No, the Night Elves have had a racial since launch where they get a certain stat increase during the daytime. I'm not sure if the sun thing is used elsewhere.

They get a haste bonus at night and a crit bonus in daytime, and that wasn't added until WoD (it's called touch of elune)

[Revamp Man]

So currently the enemies post 10.1.5 in game are
The rot and gnolls
The infinite
The 3 incarnates 2 of which are now empowered
The Naga (the book in 10.0.7 hinted they were coming while we hunted Aberrus)
Void servants like the twilight hammer
I think there's another Djaradin elder somewhere

This doesn't include any enemies not mentioned in the current expansion even if the fit like chromatus

Gnolls and iridikron might be connected because of the galakrond essence. Fyrakk teaming up with the hammer is also possible

[Hitei]

So currently the enemies post 10.1.5 in game are
The rot and gnolls
The infinite
The 3 incarnates 2 of which are now empowered
The Naga (the book in 10.0.7 hinted they were coming while we hunted Aberrus)
Void servants like the twilight hammer
I think there's another Djaradin elder somewhere

This doesn't include any enemies not mentioned in the current expansion even if the fit like chromatus

Gnolls and iridikron might be connected because of the galakrond essence. Fyrakk teaming up with the hammer is also possible

The Naga book isn't a hint they were coming, it was the instructions for why they were already on Forbidden Reach. It also elaborates that their plan is to wait and prepare for all the Dragonflight stuff to reach its inevitable end after which they'll strike.

[huth]

The Naga book isn't a hint they were coming, it was the instructions for why they were already on Forbidden Reach. It also elaborates that their plan is to wait and prepare for all the Dragonflight stuff to reach its inevitable end after which they'll strike.

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Yes, i'm to lazy to link it.

[Revamp Man]

The Naga book isn't a hint they were coming, it was the instructions for why they were already on Forbidden Reach. It also elaborates that their plan is to wait and prepare for all the Dragonflight stuff to reach its inevitable end after which they'll strike.

I thought it said something like "while they are preoccupied with the secrets below we will move in"

[micwini]

Not really as you can read here, they just mention something vaguely about their queen and her return.

[Skildar]

I'm still wrapping my head around the fact that we face Iridrikon in a dungeon and what it means for his character for the last season raid end bosses.

They could shift a known character to make him a threat, we know that Alexstrasza is supposed to fall to some corruption. So there is a chance that we won't face Iridrikon in the last raid, like we didn't face Sargeras in tye last legion raid.

But they could also have iridrikon folow the same route of Teron gore and come back as a raid boss fully buffed and under a new form.

I wonder what's more probable and what to wish for.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Teron

I'm still salty we didn't get any Gorefiend in Shadowlands.

[huth]

I'm still salty we didn't get any Gorefiend in Shadowlands.

He might not actually have entered them canonically. Main universe claims he will come back eventually when defeated in Black Temple and AU one became a demon, thus not being bound for the Shadowlands anymore.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

He might not actually have entered them canonically. Main universe claims he will come back eventually when defeated in Black Temple and AU one became a demon, thus not being bound for the Shadowlands anymore.

Fair enough. Regardless, it would be nice to see him again.

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If they want to diversify the aesthetics of the Alternate Army of Light, it would be cool if they have Yrel find the flying city of Apexis and team up with more Arrakoa.

That's always been my feeling. I think it would make for a suitable addition for a Light-centric or another AU-centric expansion to have Yrel integrate the High Arakkoa into the Alliance or even to find the aforementioned Temple in the Sky to recruit Apexis survivors.

[Revamp Man]

Quite disappointing this new series of quests. No dialogue is dubbed, which is a huge difference in quality compared to the blue dragonflight quests.
I was hoping it would be a new standard, too bad.

these are essentially just
Alex: we were mean to you
rebels: you were and thats why we became terrorists
Alex: we are willing to listen
rebels: terrorism wins
Alex: it didnt
rebels: it did though

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Quite disappointing this new series of quests. No dialogue is dubbed, which is a huge difference in quality compared to the blue dragonflight quests.
I was hoping it would be a new standard, too bad.

I think that it was probably created later/after VA recording sessions, because it's weird that it didn't have any VA, it felt lifeless.

After playing some ESO, it just boggles me how many new quests are just not voiced in wow, when almost everything is voiced in eso, but i dunno, maybe it's just me that is not that big of a book reader but would rather listen to audio-book that creates some sort of emotions to me.

[Nymrohd]

I think that it was probably created later/after VA recording sessions, because it's weird that it didn't have any VA, it felt lifeless.

After playing some ESO, it just boggles me how many new quests are just not voiced in wow, when almost everything is voiced in eso, but i dunno, maybe it's just me that is not that big of a book reader but would rather listen to audio-book that creates some sort of emotions to me.

Not just voiced but voiced well and with solid lip syncing on the models.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Not just voiced but voiced well and with solid lip syncing on the models.

Yeah, i finished the base game story in eso and even the smallest random quest was voiced and with good lip sync like you said.

I think BFA was the expansion that had most quests done with voiceovers, at least i think it had, could be wrong.

[Hitei]

I thought it said something like "while they are preoccupied with the secrets below we will move in"

Yes, but it also says where they are moving into: "we will journey to the shores of dragon lands, to the blessed isle where the Worldbreaker first embraced the whispers."

It's a manifesto. An explanation of their cause and why they are there skulking around the Forbidden Reach. They are already ON the shores of dragon lands, and then it goes on to say:

As one storm recedes, another rises. The torches have been lit. The secrets he buried will strike as a dagger into the hearts of his kin!

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The Harbinger speaks of a primal power that seeks the end of Order. Such rage can be bent to serve our ends.

A hunger lost to the ages will be reclaimed.

A dark heart left broken awaits the taking.

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When these things come to pass, the Harbinger will fulfill the final prophecy and complete the awakening.

Only then shall our Queen return to reign over sea and sky and earth. We must make ready.

Rise, rise! Soon all that was hidden will be revealed.

So I really wouldn't expect to see any significant Naga involvement until 11.0. It's specifically a "not yet" tease.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

embraced the whispers

Though a digression, I have to confess a profound distaste for the redundancy around the "whispers" wank, as well as the general portrayal of the Void in that connection. It feels as though the "whispers" are merely a kind of psychic influence, rather than insanity-inducing profound revelations. The influence of the Void is generally portrayed in a very banal fashion, with its primary gimmick—the aforementioned whispers—being nigh-invariably disappointing when they're actually heard, such that they are bound to leave you wondering precisely how anybody is driven to madness or even to a profound reevaluation of their cosmic leanings as a result of exposure to them.

[huth]

Though a digression, I have to confess a profound distaste for the redundancy around the "whispers" wank, as well as the general portrayal of the Void in that connection. It feels as though the "whispers" are merely a kind of psychic influence, rather than insanity-inducing profound revelations. The influence of the Void is generally portrayed in a very banal fashion, with its primary gimmick—the aforementioned whispers—being nigh-invariably disappointing when they're actually heard, such that they are bound to leave you wondering precisely how anybody is driven to madness or even to a profound reevaluation of their cosmic leanings as a result of exposure to them.

Profound revelations don't induce insanity. In fact, if they contradict your established world-view, you're likely to disregard them. Constant, low-key barely audible whispers in the back of your head? Sure can.

[Shadowferal]

Though a digression, I have to confess a profound distaste for the redundancy around the "whispers" wank, as well as the general portrayal of the Void in that connection. It feels as though the "whispers" are merely a kind of psychic influence, rather than insanity-inducing profound revelations. The influence of the Void is generally portrayed in a very banal fashion, with its primary gimmick—the aforementioned whispers—being nigh-invariably disappointing when they're actually heard, such that they are bound to leave you wondering precisely how anybody is driven to madness or even to a profound reevaluation of their cosmic leanings as a result of exposure to them.

It's not Lovecraft. The profound truths that becomes incised in the all too-fragile mind crushing the soul and sanity of anyone hearing such...no...wait! The stars...they're alive!