The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

The idea that Earthen were as requested as Ethereals/Naga is wild to me. Genuinely wild.

It’s complete nonsense. I mean they’re an interesting AR, but there are FAR more races that were actually requested. Them being a third Dwarf race doesn’t help, because dwarves aren’t all that popular in of themselves.

[FelPlague]

You’re quite literally lying if you‘re saying that Earthen were a much requested fan favourite since Wrath that people were crying out for.

I mean I'm not, but if it helps you sleep at night sure.
Same could be said for naga.

[Varodoc]

Edit: i thought about and they only part i agree is that they should've made Worgens not transform. But undead at the very least have different animations and look nearly unrecognizable as humans, not even gonna engage with the Dracthyr comment.

Have you actually played a Dracthyr? You are aware that their female form is a Human, Yes? So why are the Dracthyr only Elves and not Humans too?

[Mekkle]

Have you actually played a Dracthyr? You are aware that their female form is a Human, Yes? So why are the Dracthyr only Elves and not Humans too?

pointy ears :3

also, i mained dracthyr in dragonflight, love the playstyle.

[Varodoc]

pointy ears :3

also, i mained dracthyr in dragonflight, love the playstyle.

Orcs have pointy ears too. I guess Orcs are Elves too. You've cracked the code.

[Scyth]

Having a third dwarf like race is fine (am biased here), i personally think 3 variations is ok, but having 5 elves is absured and no one seems to bat an eye here; Night Elves, Void elves, Nightborne, Blood Elves, and yes i am gonna include Dracthyr and some of you even want more

and no i don't care if elves are the most commonly played race, they're extremely boring design wise and the Male BE posture is rediculous.

I personally think we need something more then just another human with pointy ears, not every race has to be pretty. Ogres, Ethereals, or Naga are the only way unless they have another similar option.

Numbers dont lie though. Why develop a race barely anyone will play when they know Elves will be played by many? Elves are also better for marketing.
I agree we have a lot but the playerbase clearly likes Elves and Blizz knows that.

[Mekkle]

Orcs have pointy ears too. I guess Orcs are Elves too. You've cracked the code.

now now dont be dishonest

They Dracthyr male uses the same skeleton and model as Blood elves and females are look just like and elf with a human female skeleton.

You should be Happy!

[Varodoc]

now now dont be dishonest

They Dracthyr male uses the same skeleton and model as Blood elves and females are look just like and elf with a human female skeleton.

You should be Happy!

Uhm, No. This doesn't look like an Elf at all. If I were being charitable, I'd give you that it looks like an Half-Elf. Nothing more.




You should clearly revise how Elves look in Warcraft.

[Mekkle]

Numbers dont lie though. Why develop a race barely anyone will play when they know Elves will be played by many? Elves are also better for marketing.
I agree we have a lot but the playerbase clearly likes Elves and Blizz knows that.

Well that's clearly not true or else earthen would never have existed and we'd have tatoo'd blue eyed blood elves people have been wanting. I don't think races in general sell as much as people think they do anymore. The majority of people got the races they want i think and anymore added will just be called "neat" and mostly not played.

For me personally I just like any new race we get, Variety is the spice of life!, just no more Orcs and elves for a long while.

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Uhm, No. This doesn't look like an Elf at all. If I were being charitable, I'd give you that it looks like an Half-Elf. Nothing more.




You should clearly revise how Elves look in Warcraft.

you know what? sure buddy you win!

[Teriz]

Well that's clearly not true or else earthen would never have existed and we'd have tatoo'd blue eyed blood elves people have been wanting. I don't think races in general sell as much as people think they do anymore. The majority of people got the races they want i think and anymore added will just be called "neat" and mostly not played.

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you know what? sure buddy you win!

Thing is, the visage forms are completely optional. You can play as a dracthyr and never be in that form.

[Varodoc]

you know what? sure buddy you win!

Win, what? I haven't won anything. I wish Dracthyr used the Female Void Elf model, sadly Blizzard always forgets about the Elves.

We are literally going to an entire subterranean empire of Half-Elves and yet playable Half-Elves are nowhere to be seen.

Since Blizzard hates Elves, I already expect Midnight, the Elven Kingdom expansion, to bring playable Forest Trolls.

[Zardas]

Uhm, No. This doesn't look like an Elf at all. If I were being charitable, I'd give you that it looks like an Half-Elf. Nothing more.

Remove the horns, ask a hundred people what that is. Beside "what are you doing in my house ? Please get out", "and elf" will be the answer you'll get the most.

[Mekkle]

Thing is, the visage forms are completely optional. You can play as a dracthyr and never be in that form.

Yea its optional, But the dragon form doesn't feel like its main form if you can't have more then 2 pieces of armor of your mog visible. It's just a glorified druid transformation.

I'd except it more if you got to choose a different race and not just an elf with a road rash.

[Teriz]

Yea its optional, But the dragon form doesn't feel like its main form if you can't have more then 2 pieces of armor of your mog visible. It's just a glorified druid transformation.

I'd except it more if you got to choose a different race and not just an elf with a road rash.

If you want to look armored up, just wear the barbershop armor alongside the visible mogs.

[Eldryth]

If you want to look armored up, just wear the barbershop armor alongside the visible mogs.

That's actually what ruins Evoker the most for me- it's incredibly difficult to find any gear that actually matches the barbershop armors colors. It feels like none of the evoker sets were even designed with that in mind- at the very least, a secondary color will clash horribly with your other gear.

[Teriz]

That's actually what ruins Evoker the most for me- it's incredibly difficult to find any gear that actually matches the barbershop armors colors. It feels like none of the evoker sets were even designed with that in mind- at the very least, a secondary color will clash horribly with your other gear.

Well don’t worry, that should change when they expand the race to other classes.

[Eldryth]

Well don’t worry, that should change when they expand the race to other classes.

What? No, that has nothing to do with the issue at all. Sure, I'm considering making a Mage or Warlock Dracthyr when that happens, but I still wouldn't be able to play an Evoker without being forced to use a clown suit in combat.

I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I actually like the dragon form in theory, and I'm fine with the idea behind the barber shop armor. But when you can't even make it match well with the gear that's made specifically for Evokers, it's clear that the current implementation isn't good enough.

I don't know how difficult it'd be to implement, but I think the best way to address this would be to split the Armor Color choice into three color options, so you can choose your own color for each part of the armor instead of picking a premade combination. That way you could just create a mix to fit any set, like- for an example that annoyed me personally a lot- you could choose green and bronze instead of green and silver, so it would actually match the Heroic Amirdrassil set.

It'd also be amazing if they added more unlockable barbershop armor options over time, but I don't see that happening, at least not frequently. It would also help if they let you choose different transmogs for each form. Regardless, the current implementation definitely isn't adequate- it makes it difficult to enjoy a class that I otherwise liked.

[Ochinko]

I agree with that statement, really like the lizard, I mean dragon form, even with the silly worgen skipping.

But like you've said, its so weird that they would produce elaborate armor sets and then have then be invisible (due to dragon form) 90% of the time and have shoulders just not match with any available cosmetic options.

Dont want to think that potentially there's an art department doing amazing work without having a single clue about the class / race they are working for (hence the missmatching colors).

Its kinda weird that they could either start matching the colors of future armors, introduce more armor color options, allow more armor pieces to show or go the druid route and add more Dragon forms (for instance a void dragon like sarkareth p3 or maybe a four feet dragonkin).

It just feels like they either dont know what direction they want to go or they were / are in a time rush so its all just bandaids to be fixed...never

[Cherry123]

Shorts will be released soon (3 weeks) they will be about
1. Earthen
2. Hallowfall (most about the new DEI character )
3. Nerubian and Xal'atath
According to the source, it will be well written about the Earthen, the other two will be cringe...

Cringe level equal to "Star Wars Acolyte"

I'm a little disappointed, I thought that Alleria and Thrall would get their shorts, zero hype level

[allegrian]

It feels earthen ar an AR because they were already using them as the main NPC faction, and they share most animations with dwarves so they were low effort. The are some tiers behind SL's customization overhaul, you can't even choose moustache and beard separately and they don't have a cool racial like dark irons.