The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[username993720]

To me the issue with TWW's world is the missed potential. It's the underground expansion but you only get three underground zones, when there could have been so much more.

It could have had a Lost World of sorts.

[milkmustache]

To me the issue with TWW's world is the missed potential. It's the underground expansion but you only get three underground zones, when there could have been so much more.

I mean, it's an expansion. The four zone + 2 patch zones expansion pacing is pretty standard after Shadowlands and Dragonflight. I'm sure we'll get 2 more underground zones to pair, but on launch this is pretty much expected.

[Khaza-R]

It could have had a Lost World of sorts.

Still could. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some patch zone (possibly "rootlands") which is really just a fragment of Primordial Azeroth.

[rainhard]

I suspects the roots of elun'ahir have an effect similar to that of the crucible from elden ring, containing a mix of powers from different animal types but more wow style kinda like druids and them taking some aspects of their form only more primal hence the bat ears and the quils and the fur and etc. And perhaps the harondir could be a troll tribe empowered by those roots instead of the well of enernity.

[Houle]

So what is everyones opinion about this:



Tentacle from Y'shaarj, from which the dagger for Xal was forged?
Tentacle from Xal herself before she was put into the dagger?
Or maybe a C'thun tentacle, it looks somewhat similar with the claw at the tip and the spikes down the side

[Makorus]

So what is everyones opinion about this:



Tentacle from Y'shaarj, from which the dagger for Xal was forged?
Tentacle from Xal herself before she was put into the dagger?
Or maybe a C'thun tentacle, it looks somewhat similar with the claw at the tip and the spikes down the side

Interesting to note, this flesh thing also shows up in the cinematic.

I would imagine it's Xal-related, seeing how it's shaped like the dagger, even with the spikes at the bottom, and we know that she did something to the Nerubians in the past.

[Kiivar86]

The nerubians are collecting the black blood of the old gods right? So that'd be part of one I suppose.

[Auxis]

Oh cool. I just thought that was.. idk, a nerubian grub/broodmother or something and the nerubian was harvesting from it.

[Golden Yak]

Harvesting those flavorful Old God bits.

[Lahis]

I suspects the roots of elun'ahir have an effect similar to that of the crucible from elden ring, containing a mix of powers from different animal types but more wow style kinda like druids and them taking some aspects of their form only more primal hence the bat ears and the quils and the fur and etc. And perhaps the harondir could be a troll tribe empowered by those roots instead of the well of enernity.

The original WC3 druids that were locked into one animal form had that animal affects the look of their even form too.

[Viridiel]

So what is everyones opinion about this:


Tentacle from Y'shaarj, from which the dagger for Xal was forged?
Tentacle from Xal herself before she was put into the dagger?
Or maybe a C'thun tentacle, it looks somewhat similar with the claw at the tip and the spikes down the side

The only Old God whose appearance it matches is N'zoth, and it doesn't really look like any appendages of his that we saw.

I think it's either a piece of the fifth Old God, a piece of Xal'atath's body before she was sealed in the dagger, or the final result of the Black Blood spreading and growing (perhaps having fully corrupted a root of Elun'ahir). Personally I think it might be all three: Xal'atath was the fifth Old God who actually reached the core of Azeroth before being weakened (by Elun'ahir or the Beledar or both) and torn apart by the other Old Gods, and now she's using the essences of the other Old Gods to devour them and regrow her body.

(I know there's the line about her not being an Old God -- she's not one now, but that doesn't mean she never was one or never will be one.)

[Joshuaj]

Interesting to note, this flesh thing also shows up in the cinematic.

I would imagine it's Xal-related, seeing how it's shaped like the dagger, even with the spikes at the bottom, and we know that she did something to the Nerubians in the past.

Not quite sure. Could be a part of that Old God looking thing from the City of Threads Mural.

[Enrif]

So what is everyones opinion about this:

Tentacle from Y'shaarj, from which the dagger for Xal was forged?
Tentacle from Xal herself before she was put into the dagger?
Or maybe a C'thun tentacle, it looks somewhat similar with the claw at the tip and the spikes down the side

i guess it somewhat fits the tentacles of this depiction of Y'shaarj


https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Bat..._of_Y%27Shaarj

I think it links to Y'shaarj most. It was stated that the dagger was made from a claw of Y'shaarj, The recent chronicles state that multiple pieces were falling across azeroth as it was ripped out by aman'thul, one dropping on pandaria, which is not that far away from Khaz Algar, and with the recent Mists Remix we had a focus on a piece of Y'shaarj body part being enough to cause a lot of problems. Not to mention Xal'atoh, Desecrated Image of Gorehowl being eerily similar named like Xal'atath, Blade of the Black Empire.

[huth]

i guess it somewhat fits the tentacles of this depiction of Y'shaarj

What are you talking about? Those look vastly different. If anything, you can fully rule out Y'shaarj based on this.

[Enrif]

What are you talking about? Those look vastly different. If anything, you can fully rule out Y'shaarj based on this.

one is a 3d render, the other is an artists painted version. Yet both are tentacles with talons at the end.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

In 'StarCraft: Brood War' there is a plot where the remaining Cerebrates (generals of the Zerg Swarm) merged together to form a new Overmind.

It would be cool if a story was being told in TWW that, through the Nerubians collecting "blood of the Old Gods" and the reveal of that giant Old God-looking tentacle, if Xal'atath was trying to somehow merged with it all to regain her original form... if her original form was an Old God after all.

[jeezusisacasual]

In 'StarCraft: Brood War' there is a plot where the remaining Cerebrates (generals of the Zerg Swarm) merged together to form a new Overmind.

It would be cool if a story was being told in TWW that, through the Nerubians collecting "blood of the Old Gods" and the reveal of that giant Old God-looking tentacle, if Xal'atath was trying to somehow merged with it all to regain her original form... if her original form was an Old God after all.

God you reminded me of how amazing the Starcraft narrative is ( i also love how the felhunter is a zergling xD ). I would love to see them expand upon the cosmic horror elements of the old gods in a slow walk kind of way.

[melodramocracy]

You don't get it.
There's no context through visuals.

A player completely new to the series would look at that cinematic and think the game to be on the same general level as Lost Ark, etc. Not even close in quality as prior cinematics.

[Shadowferal]

It would be cool if a story was being told in TWW that, through the Nerubians collecting "blood of the Old Gods" and the reveal of that giant Old God-looking tentacle, if Xal'atath was trying to somehow merged with it all to regain her original form... if her original form was an Old God after all.

Hmm...do think adding a "blood moon" event where some players try to help, and some players fight...just thinking aloud..

[huth]

one is a 3d render, the other is an artists painted version. Yet both are tentacles with talons at the end.

That's reductive to the point of uselessness. There's plenty of quite visible and very different details. What you describe are basically the only similar parts.

You might as well claim a rock and a mountain are the same thing because both are made of stone.