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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Thankfully, you do not work for blizzard so your personal doubts don’t matter too much.
    Neither does your opinion, yet here we are.

    Or maybe the “goblinraid” is what lots of posters have said, and is us fighting the venture co in the rootlands. There’s more evidence to that than the singular piece
    Doubtful, since Rootlands were clearly designed to be part of the 5 original zones for Khaz Algar. Just like Forbidden Reach was part of the 5 original zones for DF.

    Also you have zero evidence that Goblins are going after the Rootlands.


    Doubtful, as the Forbidden Reach (or ANY minor patch content for that matter) has never gotten close to the size of a primary expansion zone in the expansion it’s in.
    That’s if the Rootlands remain that size when implemented. Blizzard could easily reduce its original size for minor patch release. That may very well be why it was removed and hidden away for later release in 11.0.7.

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    I don't mind the new loading screen but I would of much preferred Azj-Kahet. Maybe they were afraid the arachnophobes would complaint

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    Ugly login screen.

    I want the Midnight login screen to be this Chronicles art but animated and purple:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    I don't mind the new loading screen but I would of much preferred Azj-Kahet. Maybe they were afraid the arachnophobes would complaint
    As an arachnophobe, I genuinely wouldn't be scared

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    I expected a screen that overlooked Dornogal, focused on the Coreway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I have serious doubts that a “goblinraid” would have anything to do with the Rootlands. I believe that factoid alone rules out the Rootlands as major patch content.
    I have already explained you in how more than one way the 'goblin raid' could happen in the Rootlands.
    "Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
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    "They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    I have already explained you in how more than one way the 'goblin raid' could happen in the Rootlands.
    Sorry, but your explanations are nonsensical based on what we know currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Sorry, but your explanations are nonsensical based on what we know currently.
    Yeah, it's nonsensical for goblins to move to a location to explore its resources. Yeah, it's nonsensical for goblins to move to a different location if they find something more profitable elsewhere.

    After all, goblins are really not a profit-oriented race. They abhor money.
    "Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
    "You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
    "They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Yeah, it's nonsensical for goblins to move to a location to explore its resources. Yeah, it's nonsensical for goblins to move to a different location if they find something more profitable elsewhere.

    After all, goblins are really not a profit-oriented race. They abhor money.
    The fact remains that there are ZERO known links between the Goblins, Harronir, and Rootlands. If you have such a link, please post it.

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    Really hope that we will get Undermine for 11.1 and rootlands for 11.2 so this fruitless debate can finally come to an end.
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    Looks like we might have our eyes of green. There are a few other details but I'll wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polybius View Post
    Looks like we might have our eyes of green. There are a few other details but I'll wait and see.
    What makes you say this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raetary View Post
    Huh, interesting login screen.

    Personally, i don't like it.
    It's generic looking and is quite the departure from the traditional login screen being a gate/portal or overlook of some kind.
    I really hope they reconsider its design.

    And if not, it kinda feels like we can already guess what the Midnight/TLT screens will be looking like then, as this one is very much just themed after the expansion logo.
    It’s very bland and you can tell very few resources went into making it lol
    I guess it makes sense as most people barely look at the login screen but I’m still not a fan of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Yeah, it's nonsensical for goblins to move to a location to explore its resources. Yeah, it's nonsensical for goblins to move to a different location if they find something more profitable elsewhere.

    After all, goblins are really not a profit-oriented race. They abhor money.
    See, you're missing the most important evidence- Teriz doesn't want that outcome. I've made the mistake of engaging several times (even did it again a few pages ago), and it always just leads to a headache- he'll fixate on anything tangentially related to something he wants, no matter how massive of a leap it is, refuse to consider any other possibility, and ignore or deny any evidence to the contrary.

    At least on this subject, his wish is plausible- the entirety of the evidence we have is that Goblins are doing something in Khaz Algar and that some Goblin raid content was datamined, so Goblins causing issues locally or us going to Undermine for an irrelevant filler tier are both plausible outcomes. Honestly, I don't even care so long as they do justice to the Rootlands (as I said before, the Harronir, Eonar, and Freysworn are all great plot hooks) and the Core, and it'd definitely take more than a minor patch to do that for the Rootlands unless they vastly increase the resources they put into minor patches.

    I'm just tired of every single discussion constantly being derailed back to Teriz's wish list. I really don't think there's anything more anybody can add to the Goblin speculation at this point- and that probably won't change until more hints show up after launch- but everything this thread talks about always gets forced back to that. It makes it next to impossible to discuss anything else, even if you try to ignore him.

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    New login reminds me of WC3s login, maybe opening to a scene too? Our warband camp?
    Last edited by Trazzle; 2024-06-26 at 01:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trazzle View Post
    New login reminds me of WC3s login, maybe opening to a scene too? Our warband camp?
    Finally someone who doesn't jump on the hate bandwagon for no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The fact remains that there are ZERO known links between the Goblins, Harronir, and Rootlands. If you have such a link, please post it.
    The important fact is you keep ignoring everything I tell you, and I have to repeat it again and again until you actually acknowledge it.

    As I've already said previously in this thread (said to you, I might add) such a link can easily be added in a 11.0.5 or 11.0.7 patch story. It is really not hard to come up with ways to explain why goblins would go from point A to point B.

    If you for some reason can't come up with any explanation for that on your own, I'm going to consider you hopeless and end this discussion here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trazzle View Post
    New login reminds me of WC3s login, maybe opening to a scene too? Our warband camp?
    Assuming that login screen is the one that will go live, it looks painfully lackluster, in my opinion.

    For all login screens we had so far, we had beautiful scenery with ambiance going on, but now we have......... Hearthstone. Just Hearthstone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    The important fact is you keep ignoring everything I tell you, and I have to repeat it again and again until you actually acknowledge it.

    As I've already said previously in this thread (said to you, I might add) such a link can easily be added in a 11.0.5 or 11.0.7 patch story. It is really not hard to come up with ways to explain why goblins would go from point A to point B.
    So let me answer the challenge you clearly ignored; There is no link between the goblins and Rootlands, and there’s no link between Rootlands and 11.1.

    On the other hand, we have a link to Undermine via the Goblins in Khaz Algar and Gazlowe name dropping it. We also have a link for Undermine in 11.1 via the “goblin raid” datamine.

    Which is why I said your explanations were nonsense, because no evidence supports it.

    If you for some reason can't come up with any explanation for that on your own, I'm going to consider you hopeless and end this discussion here.
    That would be for the best.

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    We got more icons with the etherealraid name in it

    inv_11_0_etherealraid_chime_color1

    inv_11_0_etherealraid_chime_color2

    inv_11_0_etherealraid_chime_color3

    inv_11_0_etherealraid_chime_color4


    And more variations of the one other icon

    inv_11_0_etherealraid_communicator_color1

    inv_11_0_etherealraid_communicator_color2

    inv_11_0_etherealraid_communicator_color3

    inv_11_0_etherealraid_communicator_color4


    This intensifies the idea of a ethereal raid being part of TWW. The chime reminds me heavily about the Hallowfall area, but that can just be my imagination.


    Some other interesting icons:

    inv_nullstone_shadow

    inv_nullstone_void

    inv_nullstone_cosmicvoid


    seems blizzard is more directly differentiating the color pallet of shadow, void and cosmic void. Shadow goes pretty much into the magenta color spectrum, void is more on the purple side, and cosmic void is blue. There are similar icons for plants, but the stones are more easily to recognize the main colors.


    A set of jewelry based on the venture co? Available in 5 colors

    inv_11_0_ventureco_necklace01_color1

    inv_11_0_ventureco_necklace02_color1

    inv_11_0_ventureco_ring01_color1

    inv_11_0_ventureco_ring02_color1


    More credence to a goblin patch/area/raid
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    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
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    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
    Enforcer (Warden/Spellbreaker) Class Idea
    Naga using Worgen Rig Mockup

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    While I do like the idea of an ethereal raid, I think it feels a bit out of place in TWW, if you ask me, far better for Midnight. Also, while they are named that, could they just be the icon names for things dropped by Nexus-Princess Ky'veza? I found comments on some of these icons from about a week ago here, and someone said that icons for the trinkets Ky'veza drops are already in and different, so maybe not, but I dunno. Looks like she dropped something that was called "Void Reaper's Chime" but now may be Contract instead.

    I do find the differentiation for void/shadow/cosmic void interesting though.

    edit: Actually from datamining on this build:

    Ky'veza's Cruel Implements Name changed from "Kye'vezza's Cruel Implements" to "Ky'veza's Cruel Implements". Void Reaper's Chime Contract always summons additional phantoms against enemies afflicted by Queensbane.

    Changed from Chime to Contract, so I do think the chime icon was at least at some point that trinket.
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