The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

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If the next expansion is Pirate related, then Jaina's likely a shoe-in for returning main character. As the reason she couldn't attend Lor'themar and Thalyssra's wedding in the Vow Eternal, was that she was busy dealing with Pirates.

Oh, unequivocally. Hardly any other conclusion to reach from that throwaway.

[Shamolo]

I suppose the only question that'd be left, is figuring out who'd be the obvious main Horde character rep for the expansion. Since Dragonflight has so far taken a break from the usual main cast outside of Baine.

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[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Oh, unequivocally. Hardly any other conclusion to reach from that throwaway.

Oh hey they could even use more of Tandred as well.

I suppose the only question that'd be left, is figuring out who'd be the obvious main Horde character rep for the expansion. Since Dragonflight has so far taken a break from the usual main cast outside of Baine.

A part of me thinks the Zandalari should be a choice given their armada, but also would lead to feeling a lot like a re-thread, as well as not having that many lore relevant characters, with Talanji herself feeling far more Loa related.

Besides Zandalari, I guess Goblins are the other Horde race with any notable seafaring capabilities? Also the contrast between Kul Tiran and Bilgewater seafaring technology would be pretty interesting.

[DatToffer]

*yikes*

Yeah that's nasty. And you're gonna post that without any context or so much of a word ? Might as well be a bot account too.

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Honestly, I think the effort is there; unfortunately, the errors are too visible, and it's simply too easy to pin down. Even an unobservant sort would probably quickly notice the oddities.

[Skildar]

so people get infracted for no reason other than someone disagreed with their point of view ? oO'

[Raetary]

so people get infracted for no reason other than someone disagreed with their point of view ? oO'

Pretty sure people got infracted for derailing the thread yet again.

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Low effort AI images.

Maybe next time load them into Photoshop and try to make them less obviously fake looking.
And leave characters out, they will always end up looking horrendous and out of place.

[Darkarath]

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POSTCRIPT 2: Do we know if 10.1.5 megadungeon has a cinematic at the end? I guess that Nozdormu will turn into Murozond if that is the case.

[Berkilak]

I suppose the only question that'd be left, is figuring out who'd be the obvious main Horde character rep for the expansion. Since Dragonflight has so far taken a break from the usual main cast outside of Baine.

I would hope that we would instead take the Dragonflight route and use characters that are actually related to the narrative instead of shoehorning in Alliance and Horde characters. I’d love to see Booty Bay as a launching point for both factions. Maybe even revamp it and make it the hub.

[Foolicious]

POSTCRIPT 2: Do we know if 10.1.5 megadungeon has a cinematic at the end? I guess that Nozdormu will turn into Murozond if that is the case.

Won't happen. The whole Point of the Dungeon is to prevent daios from forcefully transforming nozdormu into murozond.
Maybe we will see a cutscene of a conversation between nozdormu and chromie or a little teaser of whats iridikron is up to after the Dungeon. But i wouldn't count on it.

[Darkarath]

Won't happen. The whole Point of the Dungeon is to prevent daios from forcefully transforming nozdormu into murozond.
Maybe we will see a cutscene of a conversation between nozdormu and chromie or a little teaser of whats iridikron is up to after the Dungeon. But i wouldn't count on it.

Hum do not know about that. Murozond has to happen. He has been heavily teased. If not in this dungeon then when?

[huth]

Honestly, I think the effort is there; unfortunately, the errors are too visible, and it's simply too easy to pin down. Even an unobservant sort would probably quickly notice the oddities.

I think it actually manages to hit squarely in uncanny valley. Good enough to pass to an automated system, but just off enough that it triggers our emergency response systems.

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Hum do not know about that. Murozond has to happen. He has been heavily teased. If not in this dungeon then when?

Who knows. But he only has to happen. He doesn't have to happen now, or even any time soon. Theoretically, it doesn't even have to happen in WoW.

I don't think the Megadungeon would make sense, though. Murozond so far seems to have believed that our current timeline is much worse than whatever he is trying to accomplish. Nozdormu has not yet gone through anything to make him think so. Deios is doing this the wrong way, trying to force the result; it wouldn't give him the "real" Murozond, who has to fall by his own claw.

[AngerFork]

Won't happen. The whole Point of the Dungeon is to prevent daios from forcefully transforming nozdormu into murozond.
Maybe we will see a cutscene of a conversation between nozdormu and chromie or a little teaser of whats iridikron is up to after the Dungeon. But i wouldn't count on it.

Our Nozdormu, sure. But the mere fact that we have both Chromie & Morchie shows that it's possible to have more than one version of a Bronze Dragon in the same place at the same time.

I could absolutely see a Nozdormu becoming Murozond in the dungeon to create that character, even if it's not our own.

[Skildar]

Pretty sure people got infracted for derailing the thread yet again.

7.3 was discussed in how a story or a place could be explored either as a patch or a whole expansion. That was apparently enough for a few posts to receive a report. If we cannot discuss this then participation in the thread will surely go down before leak season starts

[Santandame]

7.3 was discussed in how a story or a place could be explored either as a patch or a whole expansion. That was apparently enough for a few posts to receive a report. If we cannot discuss this then participation in the thread will surely go down before leak season starts

Not really. It was the usual suspects going over lore and past expansion events, none of which fit for future speculation. I think the mention of the Legion returning as a story element for future expansions was nothing but a footnote in the sea of lore arguing of past expansions. I’ve no idea why Nymrohd is the only one ever being banned though, as there are a lot more prominent derailers.

If for that reason you think this thread will see a decline in activity then I’m sure I won’t be alone in being thankful for that. I’d rather see two pages of speculation and theory discussion as opposed to 5+ of irrelevant lore discussion.

It’s been said numerous times but if you want to discuss the general lore of WoW, you have a sub forum right there for you.

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Won't happen. The whole Point of the Dungeon is to prevent daios from forcefully transforming nozdormu into murozond.
Maybe we will see a cutscene of a conversation between nozdormu and chromie or a little teaser of whats iridikron is up to after the Dungeon. But i wouldn't count on it.

I would much prefer success on account of the long-term alterations it would entail and the added potential for future expansion content that would emerge from it.

[Darkarath]

I mean, Nozdormu needs to happen in this expansion, the dungeon's name is Dawn of the Infinite, so chances are that things will go their way. If not now when?

We know that a Timewalking rework / revamp is happening. I really doubt that 10.1.5 would be the last time we deal with the Infinites in DF. Hell, Nozdormu is, with Emberthal, the main character of the Legacies videos, plus Nozdormu is shown in the art work of the expansion.

Anyway, we will soon know. 10.1.5 has to arrive before mid-july. What really intrigues me is that model of Alexstrasza without horns, she looks just like a common elf. I do not know how someone could strip her off her Drakonid powers.

[Makorus]

The "model of Alexstrasza without horns" isn't a new model or anything.

It's literally just the current model with all the 3D armor deleted off of it. That's why the black clothing looks so bad and placed seemingly randomly, because those are the very few 2D "armor pieces". That's also why the toes are cut off while the top part of the foot is visible; the toes are completely covered by the toe-armour while the foot has a hole-y armor.

Stiven never said it's a new model. It's not actually added to the game. It's just a fun thing he did.

[Darkarath]

The "model of Alexstrasza without horns" isn't a new model or anything.

It's literally just the current model with all the 3D armor deleted off of it. That's why the black clothing looks so bad and placed seemingly randomly, because those are the very few 2D "armor pieces".

Stiven never said it's a new model. It's not actually added to the game. It's just a fun thing he did.

Oh I see. Thanks. I was trying to think about how that would make sense but I could not find any answer.