1. #75621
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Speaking of Earthen, has it been explained what their purpose is on Khaz Algar? I was assuming it was maintaining a pathway to the Core of Azeroth (hence "Coreway") but it doesn't really go there AFAIK. Maybe they were put there to dig up/kill Elun'ahir but they rebelled, hence the Freysworn and the secret memory wipe?

    And why the Harronir avoid them/hide from them and everyone else?
    From the observational report, they were dispatched there to investigate the fissure, at least at the start. The report that mentioned Khaz Algar also says to refer to records relating to geological anomalies. So it was to look into whatever this fissure is.

  2. #75622
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Light zealots will DEFINITELY return. We now have two sources of them, Lightbound and Arathi.
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    the scarlets and their false heir are still out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuaj View Post
    How did he not dupe her?

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    As of now, Turalyon is chill.
    he never lied to her
    the only thing we ever see him doing is being evil
    the first time he interacts with us he is literally attempting to enslave us and the leaders
    anduin called sylvanas out about her being arthas

    the guy even told her when they first met "you will serve me because these things will come to pass"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
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  4. #75624
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Speaking of Earthen, has it been explained what their purpose is on Khaz Algar? I was assuming it was maintaining a pathway to the Core of Azeroth (hence "Coreway") but it doesn't really go there AFAIK. Maybe they were put there to dig up/kill Elun'ahir but they rebelled, hence the Freysworn and the secret memory wipe?

    And why the Harronir avoid them/hide from them and everyone else?
    It's somewhat of a major point that their edict is to guard the Coreway. They aren't allowed to leave the Isle of Dorn at all, hence the Machine Speakers are technically breaking the edict while still actually following it in spirit by maintaining machines in the Ringing Deeps. We convince the earthen to bend the edict to stop the threat to the Coreway before it actually reaches the Coreway.

    We don't have much reason to think that the memory wipe is for any reason other than that they stop working properly when they have too many memories. At one point we can see that when their memory is full, their memories start to leak out and physically manifest as fog monsters. But the pre-patch event is all about memories, so it would be interesting if that actually went somewhere.

    I'm not sure there's any interaction between harronir and earthen thus far, or any comment from the harronir that could be taken to be referring to the earthen. But most of their lore thus far is either via banter or shown directly to us since they aren't allowed to tell us anything directly, so it can be easy to miss.

  5. #75625
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Roger View Post
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    he never lied to her
    the only thing we ever see him doing is being evil
    the first time he interacts with us he is literally attempting to enslave us and the leaders
    anduin called sylvanas out about her being arthas

    the guy even told her when they first met "you will serve me because these things will come to pass"
    That's wrong. He literally told Sylvanas that he wanted her to he a co-worker for him, and that he wouldn't do any of that "serve me" shit on her. It would be the two of them remaking the cosmos as equal partners. That's what he told Sylvanas, and that's what Sylvanas thought throughout the first half of SL.

    Zovaal was gonna enslave everyone else, but to Sylvanas, it was for a "greater good".

    However, in reality, Zovaal duped her and simply saw her as another tool for his plans. There was no "equal partnership" involved at all. The Devil quite literally tricked her. Not to mention he fooled her motive-wise as well, saying shit like "oh yeah, we'll reforge the cosmos to be just and fair" even tho he actually wanted everything to be chained up, full of torment, etc.

  6. #75626
    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuaj View Post
    That's wrong. He literally told Sylvanas that he wanted her to he a co-worker for him, and that he wouldn't do any of that "serve me" shit on her. It would be the two of them remaking the cosmos as equal partners. That's what he told Sylvanas, and that's what Sylvanas thought throughout the first half of SL.

    Zovaal was gonna enslave everyone else, but to Sylvanas, it was for a "greater good".

    However, in reality, Zovaal duped her and simply saw her as another tool for his plans. There was no "equal partnership" involved at all. The Devil quite literally tricked her. Not to mention he fooled her motive-wise as well, saying shit like "oh yeah, we'll reforge the cosmos to be just and fair" even tho he actually wanted everything to be chained up, full of torment, etc.
    [Citation needed]

    That's never stated. Yeah, he discarded Denathrius, because he failed him and he probably knew that he was scheming against him, but there was nothing indicating that's what gonna happen to Sylvanas if she doesn't fail him.

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    https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic...-update-ahead/

    Good change for the infrastructure, although I'm wondering if this also includes the ability to merge bnet accounts. Back when they created Bnet this was needed if you had two wow accounts (I know I had to do it in order to get my classic/tbc char back since I started a new account during wotlk), but honestly everyone who wanted to do that had more than enough time and the service itself was mostly used as a loophole to get stuff from third parties.

    If true, that surely enables them to do stuff like "you can farm one old elite set/glad mount during a season by playing rated pvp but you can never catch up" without a tiny amount of people just spamming bnet accounts and merging them after a season ends. Honestly, I'm wondering how many goblins actually used that method to get more trading post stuff?

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    I just wish they would find a way to merge the data of different regions.

    Started my WoW journey on the US realms, then had to play on EU for a couple years and now I'm back on US. Feels bad to have awesome things (like WoD challenge mode weapons) on EU and unable to access it on US.

    Not even asking to transfer characters, just for it to check the achivements or w/e and give the rewards / check for unlocked transmogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ochinko View Post
    I just wish they would find a way to merge the data of different regions.

    Started my WoW journey on the US realms, then had to play on EU for a couple years and now I'm back on US. Feels bad to have awesome things (like WoD challenge mode weapons) on EU and unable to access it on US.

    Not even asking to transfer characters, just for it to check the achivements or w/e and give the rewards / check for unlocked transmogs.
    Last time they talked about it it surely seemed like it's mostly a spaghetti code issue, but yee, simply merging us and eu collections would solve most issues people seem to have. Another problem would be, if you allow that, shouldn't you also allow chinese accounts to share the same collection, which opens up a WHOLE can of worms thanks to netease releasing stuff that's not available on EU/US retail (stuff like the new netease bear, spectral tigers in their blizz store etc).

    Last but not least I'm still thinking they should either merge classic and retail collections (even if it's just oneway for retail) or make a season of legacy that ends with the classic chars on retail, not on classic thus enabling us collecting old stuff. At that point it would be just another version of remix tbh.

  10. #75630
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Roger View Post
    i think if the arathi empire are just super into the light and only see it as like a great crusade then having Anduin the peace master go in and become the new ruler makes sense.

    theres also the scarlet crusade angle
    Anduin - becomes the ruler of Avaloren.
    Faerin - becomes the ruler/queen of Stormwind.

    That would be an interesting switch.
    Plus I was never against the idea of Anduin being the king. Just his own, not like his father. That was the main idea behind his development in Legion and BfA's cinematic (the last thing Metzen worked on before leaving).

  11. #75631
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic...-update-ahead/

    Good change for the infrastructure, although I'm wondering if this also includes the ability to merge bnet accounts. Back when they created Bnet this was needed if you had two wow accounts (I know I had to do it in order to get my classic/tbc char back since I started a new account during wotlk), but honestly everyone who wanted to do that had more than enough time and the service itself was mostly used as a loophole to get stuff from third parties.

    If true, that surely enables them to do stuff like "you can farm one old elite set/glad mount during a season by playing rated pvp but you can never catch up" without a tiny amount of people just spamming bnet accounts and merging them after a season ends. Honestly, I'm wondering how many goblins actually used that method to get more trading post stuff?
    I mean, it's long overdue. Realistically, recently, it was only ever used for World First guilds to trade characters around for someone else to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zers Editor View Post
    Anduin - becomes the ruler of Avaloren.
    Faerin - becomes the ruler/queen of Stormwind.

    That would be an interesting switch.
    Plus I was never against the idea of Anduin being the king. Just his own, not like his father. That was the main idea behind his development in Legion and BfA's cinematic (the last thing Metzen worked on before leaving).
    A complete outsiders becoming rulers of each would be horribly unrealistic.
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  13. #75633
    Quote Originally Posted by Zers Editor View Post
    Faerin - becomes the ruler/queen of Stormwind.
    Yeah... No. She is never going to sit on the lion throne.

  14. #75634
    Quote Originally Posted by Zers Editor View Post
    Anduin - becomes the ruler of Avaloren.
    Faerin - becomes the ruler/queen of Stormwind.

    That would be an interesting switch.
    Plus I was never against the idea of Anduin being the king. Just his own, not like his father. That was the main idea behind his development in Legion and BfA's cinematic (the last thing Metzen worked on before leaving).
    How would that even be organically a thing lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zers Editor View Post
    Anduin - becomes the ruler of Avaloren.
    Faerin - becomes the ruler/queen of Stormwind.

    That would be an interesting switch.
    Plus I was never against the idea of Anduin being the king. Just his own, not like his father. That was the main idea behind his development in Legion and BfA's cinematic (the last thing Metzen worked on before leaving).
    faerin wont rule its not in her character that we see
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    anduin bringing back a forgotten human kingdom AND it is a light empire

    that fits his character

  16. #75636
    Quote Originally Posted by Ochinko View Post
    I just wish they would find a way to merge the data of different regions.

    Started my WoW journey on the US realms, then had to play on EU for a couple years and now I'm back on US. Feels bad to have awesome things (like WoD challenge mode weapons) on EU and unable to access it on US.

    Not even asking to transfer characters, just for it to check the achivements or w/e and give the rewards / check for unlocked transmogs.
    Sorry but the technology simply isn't there yet to transfer data across entire oceans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    I mean, it's long overdue. Realistically, recently, it was only ever used for World First guilds to trade characters around for someone else to play.
    Which is as much against the EULA as someone else getting you glad on a new account and than sending that char to your main bnet account.

  18. #75638
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Sorry but the technology simply isn't there yet to transfer data across entire oceans.
    Isn't that what we are doing right now?

  19. #75639
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Isn't that what we are doing right now?
    Yes, which is why Blizzard's excuses for cross region incompability don't hold any water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Sorry, no. No one here shares your weird-ass fixations.
    Hmm thats false, many do actually. Seen people mentioning this many times.

    Wether you like it or not.

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