The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[doledippers]

that new thread title tho

[Nightshade711]

that new thread title tho

God imagine the page count when we get to The Last Titan

[Joshuaj]

"rootlands isnt real"

We're 100% getting a life-based subterranean zone next, and I'm here for it!

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Page 12,903 be like

[Scyth]

It's adventurer gear.
So weekly caches, Delve key coffers, select items at renown quartermasters, some rare drops and the occassional world quest.

They'll be more regularly available once season 1 starts.

Ah alright, good to know. Thanks!

[Telogrus]

So it seems all but confirmed that 11.1 will be Goblin themed and most likely take place in the Undermine, and 11.2 will take place in the Rootlands and expand upon the Harronir. The megadungeon could be about Beledar.

I wonder what the major patches will be for Midnight. K’aresh is all but confirmed, and Zereth Umbra seems pretty likely too if this really is the expansion where the Void is defeated for good. A Zul’Aman remake seems like a pretty obvious choice for the Midnight megadungeon

[Dragonborn]

Just realized that with Midnight, they could finally attach Quel'Thalas to the Eastern Kingdoms map and still keep the Blood Elf starting zone untouched. Now I wonder if the Azuremyst isles will be involved somehow since they've set up the new capital and the Draenei are relevant enough to be involved in the Light vs Void story. But then it's literally on the opposite side of the world so it'll be a bit awkward to try and do a Kul Tiras vs Zandalar setup.

[Chickat]

Is there a way to see snuffling spots on the map? I haven't found a way yet.

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We will get a new Midnight thread sometime next year before Midnight reveal most likely. The world soul speculation is just so we can talk about it, but this thread will get too large before we finish TLT.

[Enrif]

So it seems all but confirmed that 11.1 will be Goblin themed and most likely take place in the Undermine, and 11.2 will take place in the Rootlands and expand upon the Harronir. The megadungeon could be about Beledar.

I wonder what the major patches will be for Midnight. K’aresh is all but confirmed, and Zereth Umbra seems pretty likely too if this really is the expansion where the Void is defeated for good. A Zul’Aman remake seems like a pretty obvious choice for the Midnight megadungeon

Nothing points in that direction as far as i have seen. Beledar seems much more important to the story to be just a mega dungeon. It will probably be the final raid in some way.

[Foolicious]

So it seems all but confirmed that 11.1 will be Goblin themed and most likely take place in the Undermine, and 11.2 will take place in the Rootlands and expand upon the Harronir. The megadungeon could be about Beledar.

I wonder what the major patches will be for Midnight. K’aresh is all but confirmed, and Zereth Umbra seems pretty likely too if this really is the expansion where the Void is defeated for good. A Zul’Aman remake seems like a pretty obvious choice for the Midnight megadungeon

Goblins and rootlands/harronir are most likely to be the same patch. No undermine in this case.

[Frood]

Flip the Genedar upside down, fill it with the Light (and Shadow, alternately) and compare it to Beledar.



Make particular note of the cracks in the roof and the 'Crop Circles' around the Genedar/Oshugun.

Definitely feeling my "Beledar is a Naaru Ship" prediction. Possibly even from alternate Draenor, still.

After all... Radiant Song is a great description of how Naaru communicate.

My theory is that the Beledaar is just a seed sent by the light to try and corrupt/claim the world soul, much like the old gods are in case of the void.

[Xilurm]

Are you guys sure it's a good idea to keep the same thread? By the time the WSS ends this will be at 10k pages. Can it even handle that?

[Chickat]

Are you guys sure it's a good idea to keep the same thread? By the time the WSS ends this will be at 10k pages. Can it even handle that?

We will get a new one for Midnight. It just says WS speculation because its something we know about.

[Valysar]

I wish there was an option to remove the "2x4" groups in the lfg tool...

[huth]

Nothing points in that direction as far as i have seen. Beledar seems much more important to the story to be just a mega dungeon. It will probably be the final raid in some way.

So far, the Goblins seem to be a very minor thing. They don't appear to have any real direction in what they're doing in the area other than cluelessly making a mess of things. Both the Ringing Deeps and Azh'kahet questline end with us having to undo what they did, too.

[Eldryth]

Found a quest that reveals a bit about Xal'atath's plot that I haven't seen mentioned so far.

There's a few quests where Brann asks you to do a particular Delve to investigate Zek'vir. The last one I found reveals that Xal'atath gave him a special mission to erase the Worldsoul's memories. Definitely not the whole picture just yet, but this seems like an important piece of the puzzle. Erasing Azeroth's memories to trick her, or to weaken her resolve to resist corruption? Removing some Titan indoctrination she got from the Pantheon?

[Steampunkette]

My prediction for the patch content!

Post Launch: Rootlands.
We know that there's a "Fifth Map" that the Devs didn't put onto the Beta to avoid the massive Lore Spoilers they have for the game. I think it's the Rootlands. And I think the Rootlands are going to be revealed as a level 80+ zone in the continuing campaign once it's unlocked with full release. (Early Access can do all the current world-content, but can't continue the campaign at 80 because it's literally locked).

I think we're going to go into the Rootlands and learn about the Fifth Old God... And specifically how that Old God was altered by the power of Life.

In Hallowfall there's a cosmology book that talks about how "Pure Forces" don't really exist all that often. You get elementals, sure, but their power-source is perfectly happy to get corrupted into Shadowflame and stuff like the Twilight Hammer elementals. Or how the Sacred Flame exists as Holy and Elemental power together.

I think the roots that the Harronir work with are growing out of an Old God who bonded to Life and mellowed out to not be an evil jerk over the past (Insert BS long period of time exceeding 150,000 years) who instead works and lives alongside the Harronir/Dark Trolls that help and protect it. Big part of -why- they're so secretive is they know the Titans (And thus the Earthen) want to exterminate or imprison the last Old God who has been in hiding.

We find out the Harronir of the Rootlands have been trying to contain the Black Blood to protect their Old God against external forces that are trying to get as much of the stuff as possible... Leading to the first patch:

11.1: Undermine
Lots of Goblin stuff. But also more of the Harronir. Black Blood is super important to the ongoing storyline, including the Black Blood of the Fifth who is now 'corrupted' or 'purified' with Life. The Goblins of Undermine either want it, or have outright been using it just like they did with Kajamite. It becomes the new Saronite/Azerite of the expansion where you have people who get access to this powerful new resource and try to exploit it, only for bad stuff to happen because of it.

The Harronir are fighting a battle against the Goblins of the Undermine to try and stop them from getting more Black Blood. The Earthen, Arathi, and Nerubians join forces to try and stop the beginnings of a Void-Empowered Goblin Empire that Xalatath has -nothing- to do it. Seriously, you guys. She wasn't even involved! Honest! >.>

The big raid is a massive assault on the Undermine to take the corrupted goblins out of power so the normal goblins can go back to doing their thing.

11.2: Old God Corruption.
While we're dealing with Undermine, Xalatath's been working to try and corrupt the Fifth Old God with Black Blood and may have succeeded. We go "Deeper" into the Rootlands fighting against her work and save the Old God from being corrupted, though he is weakened. Our combined efforts force Xalatath to retreat into the Beledar which is revealed to be...

A Naaru ship. Possibly from Alter-Draenor. And there's a Naaru on board that's fighting against Black Blood to try and remain Light rather than Void. She's losing the fight. And the Radiant Song goes dark when Xalatath uses the Dark Heart on the Naaru.

Beledar Raid.

This saves Ka'resh for the Midnight expansion.

[Nymrohd]

God imagine the page count when we get to The Last Titan

At some point, the forum will struggle severely with this thread. Not sure it is a good idea to keep it going for that long.

[Xilurm]

14:00

Bit info about how they're going to handle feedback when it comes to story. If people say they don't understand character motives they will make sure to go more in depth for content releases that come after. But when it comes to huge story key points they are pretty much set in stone for the entire saga.

[Nymrohd]

I was hoping that all the follower dungeons would function like the Rookery using custom NPCs that match the story. Sadly only the first dungeon gets that treatment. And in so many of them you do get the NPCs that WOULD make sense to talk while you are in the dungeon.

Especially when we get additional scenarios crafted for Ringing depths that both could have been replaced by a follower dungeon run with the right NPCs. You could have just had a Stonevault Run with Moira, Magni, Dagran and Brinthe to finish the zone. And one with the kobolds for Darkflame Cleft.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

14:00

Bit info about how they're going to handle feedback when it comes to story. If people say they don't understand character motives they will make sure to go more in depth for content releases that come after. But when it comes to huge story key points they are pretty much set in stone for the entire saga.

Yo, is Nobbel a 6'3" giga-Chad???