The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Marlamin]

Looks like next Beta build might have a new login screen. Filenames references for it got added in the Beta build they pushed today. No data got shipped/updated yet, so that'll have to wait for the next proper data build.

[Dracullus]

Looks like next Beta build might have a new login screen. Filenames references for it got added in the Beta build they pushed today. No data got shipped/updated yet, so that'll have to wait for the next proper data build.

Interesting. It's not usual situation where tweaking screen here and there would satisfy people. As "book cover" TWW login is pretty much flawless, most people simply prefer or just get used to "vista" login screens.

[Merryck]

Interesting. It's not usual situation where tweaking screen here and there would satisfy people. As "book cover" TWW login is pretty much flawless, most people simply prefer or just get used to "vista" login screens.

I think the warband screens are meant to replace the vista login screens.

[Lady Atia]

I think the warband screens are meant to replace the vista login screens.

Which makes sense as you usually never see the normal login screen anyways these days, only if servers are down. Hence I think the whole QQ about it is overblown, and I feel sorry for the poor artists who had to work on it, now seemingly twice.

[micwini]

Looks like next Beta build might have a new login screen. Filenames references for it got added in the Beta build they pushed today. No data got shipped/updated yet, so that'll have to wait for the next proper data build.

Please be true. I see a lot of people saying "warband screen will replace it", but the warband screen replaces the character screen, not the login/DC screen.
Also: When is all the music coming?

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Which makes sense as you usually never see the normal login screen anyways these days, only if servers are down. Hence I think the whole QQ about it is overblown, and I feel sorry for the poor artists who had to work on it, now seemingly twice.

It is a staple of the game. Especially in games, not every thing needs to have a function.
It isn't that much work. Tthe biggest work of the login screen, is to pick the best vista and maybe animate a moving object (like sindragosa or alexstrasza) if they feel like it adds something. If it took tons of resources and time, they would have stopped doing it since Bnet became fully integrated and just put you straight onto the character screen.

[Valysar]

They're gonna keep the true login screen until prepatch then.

"clouds, bushes, a bridge and buildings"

"Obviously" on the Isle of Dorn/Dornogal I suppose, if there is clouds

[Xilurm]

Which makes sense as you usually never see the normal login screen anyways these days, only if servers are down. Hence I think the whole QQ about it is overblown, and I feel sorry for the poor artists who had to work on it, now seemingly twice.

Not if you start the game from the WoW.exe.

[Auxis]

Not if you start the game from the WoW.exe.

I see it all the time: I start the game from the BNet launcher.

[Xilurm]

I see it all the time: I start the game from the BNet launcher.

Yeah but since you log in automatically directly to the character screen, you only see it for a few seconds.

[Jaggler]

It’s gonna be something weird like sound & they’re gonna bring Murmur back with it.
But at least they might add bards with it

It's gonna be something like (free) will, because it's one thing all of the forces are in one way or another opposed with.
And we and Azeroth will be the champions of Will, protecting ourselves of the other forces.

[Enrif]

It's gonna be something like (free) will, because it's one thing all of the forces are in one way or another opposed with.
And we and Azeroth will be the champions of Will, protecting ourselves of the other forces.

I think it will be one of two things: Balance or Storms

Balance is simple i think. A force that is balanced can not have different individual forces vying for power.

Storms, is more a reference to blizzard as a whole. A Blizzard is just the name for a Snow Storm, Heros of the Storm, Sons of the Storm (the former page for many artists of Blizz). Heck, even Vyranoth is the Aspect of Storms. What would a cosmic force of storm be? Dunno. Could be a meaning for change. Unstoppable, devastating. Yet it brings things together (sucking it in).

[Shadowferal]

I hope the seventh force isn't something stupid like Hope ...

I'm reminded of the movie, "The Fifth Element."

[Dhomeli]

I think the warband screens are meant to replace the vista login screens.

I could see that, I think they need to make options for the warband camp that are thematic to the expansion. I believe they’ve already stated they’re looking into “unlocking” camp options, so perhaps we’ll see things along these lines added. Would be neat if eventually the camp is more like Baldur’s Gate 3 and you can actually walk around and have your characters interact with each other somehow, professions at least?

[Joshuaj]

I think it will be one of two things: Balance or Storms

Balance is simple i think. A force that is balanced can not have different individual forces vying for power.

Storms, is more a reference to blizzard as a whole. A Blizzard is just the name for a Snow Storm, Heros of the Storm, Sons of the Storm (the former page for many artists of Blizz). Heck, even Vyranoth is the Aspect of Storms. What would a cosmic force of storm be? Dunno. Could be a meaning for change. Unstoppable, devastating. Yet it brings things together (sucking it in).

Storms seem to be elemental based. Also, balance is something the First Ones created for their design. As for what the 7th power is? Honestly, I'm not sure, but I would not be shocked if this 7th power was like "the most powerful Progenitor" or simply wants to be the "only supreme being" for everything (Which could partially explain N'Zoth's "One will consume all others" whisper) as the 7th DOES have some small influence on the design of the 6, and coincidentally, the strongest members in the Pantheons of Order and Death respectively ended up going "bad".

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"If truth, what would this say of mortal souls and their potential?

And if the six (or seven, or... excuse my imprecision) each vie with one another to claim it, could they be driven by the unconscious knowledge that there exists some other force outside our understanding that seeks it as well?"

"It was both six AND seven. The six were one, and the seventh the other.

Did they desire union? The song seemed to say otherwise. Both were, yet only one could be."

"The six forces that pointed toward a seventh, and yet denied it"

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"Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others."

"The seventh covets what the six hold fast. The fulcrum wavers. All will be undone."

Another N'Zoth line: "I alone can save you from what is to come."

One of the First Ones likely has their own design with their own stuff in mind. I imagine this "unknown First One" is gonna end up being the final boss of Warcraft, assuming Blizzard doesn't pull anymore bullshit out their ass, of course.

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"Zovaal: You preserve that which is doomed. A cosmos divided will not survive what is to come."

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"Futile. No power you possess can stop what is coming."

[Enrif]

Storms seem to be elemental based. Also, balance is something the First Ones created for their design. As for what the 7th power is? Honestly, I'm not sure, but I would not be shocked if this 7th power was like "the most powerful Progenitor" or simply wants to be the "only supreme being" for everything (Which could partially explain N'Zoth's "One will consume all others" whisper) as the 7th DOES have some small influence on the design of the 6, and coincidentally, the strongest members in the Pantheons of Order and Death respectively ended up going "bad".

Elements it intriguing as a "seventh" force i guess, since the elements are their own thing separate from the cosmic forces

"If truth, what would this say of mortal souls and their potential?

And if the six (or seven, or... excuse my imprecision) each vie with one another to claim it, could they be driven by the unconscious knowledge that there exists some other force outside our understanding that seeks it as well?"

"It was both six AND seven. The six were one, and the seventh the other.

Did they desire union? The song seemed to say otherwise. Both were, yet only one could be."

"The six forces that pointed toward a seventh, and yet denied it"

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"Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others."

"The seventh covets what the six hold fast. The fulcrum wavers. All will be undone."

Another N'Zoth line: "I alone can save you from what is to come."

One of the First Ones likely has their own design with their own stuff in mind. I imagine this "unknown First One" is gonna end up being the final boss of Warcraft, assuming Blizzard doesn't pull anymore bullshit out their ass, of course.

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"Zovaal: You preserve that which is doomed. A cosmos divided will not survive what is to come."

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"Futile. No power you possess can stop what is coming."

Sounds all to point towards balance?

Six point to seventh but deny it -> All the forces have their counters and would need balance, but they don't want balance, as they want to rule
One will consume the others -> In Balance you have everyone of the others.
The seventh covets what the six hold fast -> To achieve balance it needs every single other force, thus taking it from them.

[Joshuaj]

Elements it intriguing as a "seventh" force i guess, since the elements are their own thing separate from the cosmic forces




Sounds all to point towards balance?

Six point to seventh but deny it -> All the forces have their counters and would need balance, but they don't want balance, as they want to rule
One will consume the others -> In Balance you have everyone of the others.
The seventh covets what the six hold fast -> To achieve balance it needs every single other force, thus taking it from them.

Covets means to claim, to yearn for something. Balance is equality, harmony. It doesn't seek to consume, it seeks to merely equalize.

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To hold fast means to either tightly secure, or to adhere for something (Like an ideal or belief). The Six are adhering to the pattern, to the balance of the forces. The Seventh would not be balance in this case.

[Shadowferal]

"Futile. No power you possess can stop what is coming."

The power of friendship?

[milkmustache]

So anyway

Seeing the exact location of Khaz Algar on the in game map, my thoughts are returning to it's proximity to Silithus. How likely is it thatt we interact with the sword in a final patch? Or even the sword being a set piece in a final raid?

[Ersula]

"A cosmos divided will not survive what is to come."

Unemployment is to come, because the guy who wrote that left the company. Writers/Producers very rarely continue storylines from their predecessors so its unlikely any of these things matter to the current storyline.

[Fahrad Wagner]

So anyway

Seeing the exact location of Khaz Algar on the in game map, my thoughts are returning to it's proximity to Silithus. How likely is it thatt we interact with the sword in a final patch? Or even the sword being a set piece in a final raid?

I mean if the last patch is K'aresh, space shenanigans could have us return to Azeroth/the Sword for a fight- it's probably going to be connected to Azeroth and the world soul, we just don't know how exactly