The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Doffen]

Well campaign is taken down now for a little while.. darn it US, you need to test so its working, not disabled!

[Raetary]

Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but Xal directly whispers to the Priest player:

[Scyth]

Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but Xal directly whispers to the Priest player:

It's great, I love it. I got the "After we shared so much, you simply threw me away. I will savour the taste of your insanity. Just let go." at the same time in the campaign.

Although I think those are old quotes, it's still fun to get them!

I enjoyed that trailer, was interesting seeing Xal lose her composure. She also mentioned the black blood is hers, very curious what she will end up being.

[Super Dickmann]

I don't understand, what is Alleria's reason for not letting Turalyon go with her? I know that narratively it's to allow Anduin to heal Khadgar, but what is the in-universe reason? Turalyon isn't even leading the army, so who cares if he goes with Alleria.

You answered your own question. It's entirely so that Anduin can heal his Light dysfunction and can go back to Anduin classic, lest we suffer by missing his guidance for even a single patch.

[Seiklis]

It's great, I love it. I got the "After we shared so much, you simply threw me away. I will savour the taste of your insanity. Just let go." at the same time in the campaign.

Although I think those are old quotes, it's still fun to get them!

I enjoyed that trailer, was interesting seeing Xal lose her composure. She also mentioned the black blood is hers, very curious what she will end up being.

Well I have thought one thing for a very long time...if the Old Gods didn't somehow get summoned onto Azeroth directly...it's likely they crash landed accidently or by being drawn to the power source

But not 4 times...once. And the 4 split from that once

[Timester]

I don't understand, what is Alleria's reason for not letting Turalyon go with her? I know that narratively it's to allow Anduin to heal Khadgar, but what is the in-universe reason? Turalyon isn't even leading the army, so who cares if he goes with Alleria.

Strategically, Turalyon is more powerful and battle-ready than Anduin (more than thousand of years of field experience), so he staying back to hold back any new attempt by the Nerubians is a sound plan.

[Xilurm]

Remember, we are getting two more story patches before the next zone patch.

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Also seriously, Turalyon is the perfect husband in every interaction .

Are those going to be that big though? And yeah I really like the Alleria and Turalyon interactions in this expansion. I do hope he does a bit more though. Like interacting with Anduin too.

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It has been only two or three days since Dalaran crashed, and Jaina and Thrall portalled back to Orgrimmar and Stormwind. In Mists of Pandaria, Admiral Taylor had the world's state of the art airship, and it still took her several days to get from the Jade Forest to Stormwind, and then it took the Horde and Alliance's navies months to assemble and then sail to Krassarang Wilds. There is no possible way the Horde and Alliance navies could have mobilzed and then sailed to Khaz Algar in 2 to 3 days. If they were all on board airships and Jain and Thrall took whatever was already available on standby, then perhaps it could have been done.

Where are you getting this time frame from?

[Doffen]

I really love that my favorite character is doing well

If it isnt just a trick

[Sondrelk]

I really love that my favorite character is doing well

If it isnt just a trick

It would be tremendously cheap to pull the same trick again, and definitely veering towards the kind of awful "Subversion" we used to get back when GoT Season 8 was the new great thing.
Still. It would be interesting to see the developers actually have the balls ot pull it off. Even if it would make it difficult to believe any news on Khadgar at all in the future, whether alive or dead.

[Timester]

The new Earthen are more alive and Azerothian connected than the old Earthen.

[Xilurm]

I don't understand, what is Alleria's reason for not letting Turalyon go with her? I know that narratively it's to allow Anduin to heal Khadgar, but what is the in-universe reason? Turalyon isn't even leading the army, so who cares if he goes with Alleria.

Because Xal'atath has used him against her in the past.

[Eurhetemec]

Because Xal'atath has used him against her in the past.

That's the main thing yeah. Even it's not mind control or manipulation or other tricks, Xal'atath could target him for physical/magical attacks that Alleria would be more capable of evading. Plus with love, he's kind of a "charge in face-first" blunderer, and Alleria knows that. If Alleria is there alone or with people less connected to her, Xal'atath is clearly obsessed with Alleria and will focus on her. That paid off of course, because Xal'atath's focus on their conflict/connection, and essentially, showing off (hubris being a very common flaw in the Old Gods - I don't think any of them lack it - Xal'atath is the most practical of them but still a massive diva at heart, like so many gods and godlike beings in mythology and fiction, including the Greek and Norse gods), and thus missed what was actually going on. Whereas had Turalyon been there Xal'atah would likely have been able to utilize him in some way to force Alleria to act, which might have prevented Alleria from enacting her plan.

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The main questline really suffers from them cutting large chucks out because people complained the Champaign was to long on DF.

If you include all the obviously relevent side quest the whole thing comes together far better.

Definitely. I started doing more and more of the sidequests in the Ringing Deeps and Hallowfall because I realized this as we were going on, and they felt a lot better as a result.

I do personally think cutting it so the actual main questline was shorter was the right decision though, because in DF it definitely was too long to force people to do it. I knew some players who really kind of gave up on it there. This way the story is still there, it's just not hard-required.

[Xilurm]

Any other classes get a whisper from Xal'atath during the end scenario? I got this.

https://i.imgur.com/WA2YxCn.png

I'm a holy priest and I've done both the legion legendary and the BFA questline.

[Tiradon]

I always love the dialogues between Turaylon and Alleria, especially those that mention Warcraft 2 moments. ~

Honestly I liked the story and can't wait to see where they taking this to lead up to Midnight.

[huth]

Strategically, Turalyon is more powerful and battle-ready than Anduin (more than thousand of years of field experience), so he staying back to hold back any new attempt by the Nerubians is a sound plan.

It's also strategically sensible to not have both potential leaders of Stormwind in the same risky situation. Better chances of one surviving if something goes awry.

[Timester]

It's also strategically sensible to not have both potential leaders of Stormwind in the same risky situation. Better chances of one surviving if something goes awry.

Also true.

It's ironic people asked for "WAR" then don't know how war is actually done.

[Scyth]

Any other classes get a whisper from Xal'atath during the end scenario? I got this.

https://i.imgur.com/WA2YxCn.png

I'm a holy priest and I've done both the legion legendary and the BFA questline.

Yeah me and someone else in this thread got different whispers too.

It seems that wowhead has picked up on it too as there is an article about it. There's apparently 4 different whispers we can get.
Eye w/ Dagger quest done
Eye w/o Dagger quest done
Dagger w/o eye quest done
and then one for someone who did neither

Love these little things they add in the game sometimes!

[Mekkle]

it's so alien to see this forum be this positive about a story

[Samin]

I know everyone is still excited and speculating about the 11.0 story but I just had a brief moment of not being on complete auto-pilot while herbing and was wondering if they've already told us the real name of the "Rootlands" - the Deepgrove? It does sound very fitting for a place where the Harronir presumably come from.

[Sondrelk]

I know everyone is still excited and speculating about the 11.0 story but I just had a brief moment of not being on complete auto-pilot while herbing and was wondering if they've already told us the real name of the "Rootlands" - the Deepgrove? It does sound very fitting for a place where the Harronir presumably come from.

It's possible, certainly. Though I think they just needed a botanical sounding name for the herbalism knowledge items,