The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dracullus]

We should get some lead in to the next patch. I assume we aren't getting new story content in 11.0.5 given it is all focused on the anniversary so we are likely waiting for 2025 to get more story. They should leave us with something, no?

Warcraft Direct. What else would they talk about than 11.0.7, 11.1 and maybe even small glimpse into end like Argus/N'zoth fish? I don't think we have date yet, but I got impression it will be around all anniversary buzz, so I expect November.

Also I hope even 11.0.5 will have some story chapter, even if it will be breather. No matter what you think about DF, having some story in every patch from 10.0.7 was amazing.

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Watched cinematic. They try to get Tarantino to direct next Warcraft movie or something?

[BaumanKing]

There is nothing wrong with that lol.

There's a lot wrong with objectifying female body parts. And it's blatant objectification, because the constant display of her feet adds nothing to the plot. It's like Tarantino's movies, but at least he admits that it's a blatant fetish for him.

[Cheezits]

Warcraft Direct. What else would they talk about than 11.0.7, 11.1 and maybe even small glimpse into end like Argus/N'zoth fish? I don't think we have date yet, but I got impression it will be around all anniversary buzz, so I expect November.

Also I hope even 11.0.5 will have some story chapter, even if it will be breather. No matter what you think about DF, having some story in every patch from 10.0.7 was amazing.

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Watched cinematic. They try to get Tarantino to direct next Warcraft movie or something?

Story is confirmed for 11.0.5 per the roadmap.

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There's a lot wrong with objectifying female body parts. And it's blatant objectification, because the constant display of her feet adds nothing to the plot. It's like Tarantino's movies, but at least he admits that it's a blatant fetish for him.

Xals feet are in the cinematics because they want to show that she is flying and she is also "above" the people she is talking to. How else do you show this without her feet being in the shot?

Its not objectification, they just keep using the same shot for that reason.

People kept whining about Sigma in OW because people just have a visceral reaction to bare feet.

[Sondrelk]

Forgettable, like the Sarkareth one

The Sarkareth cinematic had really strong thematic heft to it though. Sure, it didn't build to something greater or anything like that, but it was a strong ending to Sarkareths arc.

[Ersula]

There's a lot wrong with objectifying female body parts. And it's blatant objectification, because the constant display of her feet adds nothing to the plot. It's like Tarantino's movies, but at least he admits that it's a blatant fetish for him.

I don't think any portrayal of Xal'atath's bare feet have been objectifying or pornographic. You're basically just saying characters are required to wear shoes at all times.

[Sondrelk]

I guess they are confident enough in their content cadence now of they aren't teasing the next major patch yet.

Don't think it would have really made sense ot tease the next major path anyways. We have both 11.0.5, and possibly even an 11.0.7 patch to really build up to the future patch. Similar to how the ending to Vault of the Incarnates didn't tease Zaralek, but the Forbidden reach did.

[Sentynel]

There's a lot wrong with objectifying female body parts. And it's blatant objectification, because the constant display of her feet adds nothing to the plot. It's like Tarantino's movies, but at least he admits that it's a blatant fetish for him.

But...but... it's not female? Can't objectify body type 2s

[Dracullus]

Don't think it would have really made sense ot tease the next major path anyways. We have both 11.0.5, and possibly even an 11.0.7 patch to really build up to the future patch. Similar to how the ending to Vault of the Incarnates didn't tease Zaralek, but the Forbidden reach did.

That's another reason why panel about upcoming big patch (before next small ones) is good idea. We get spoiled about both underground zone and emerald dream through datamining of small patches, so both reveals of actual big patch were flat.

[Reive]

is there a post raid campaign chapter?

[milkmustache]

The Sarkareth cinematic had really strong thematic heft to it though. Sure, it didn't build to something greater or anything like that, but it was a strong ending to Sarkareths arc.

Yea, I've never understood the disappointment with the Sarkareth cinematic. We understood that this raid was kind of a one off story wise and they tied it up really nicely. If anything, I think the look into Sarkareth's pursuit of both Neltharion's Legacy and the Void itself was a good preamble for the expansions to come. He reached the pinnacle of the power he sought and when looking into it he found nothing, which truly is Neltharion's legacy.

Ansurek's is okay. I think I could have done without another cinematic of Xal chiding the character she's speaking to, but I do like her take on promising nothing but giving everything, the void is a siphon for itself. My guess is that the hopes for Ansurek in Xal'atath's eyes were to be a worthy fight against the factions that would fuel her black blood long enough to achieve whatever goal it is she has with the Dark Heart or Beledar or the Worldsoul, whatever. Ansurek just simply could not fulfill her end of the bargain.

With Ansurek dead, I wonder if we see a holdout of Ascended or if they seek pennance and to join new socieities as they are outcasts in Azj-Kahet.

[Cheezits]

That's another reason why panel about upcoming big patch (before next small ones) is good idea. We get spoiled about both underground zone and emerald dream through datamining of small patches, so both reveals of actual big patch were flat.

We have been spoiled as to the contents of the next patch, however. In the exact same way the Dream was spoiled.

[Timester]

So, the Nerubians and the Ascendent were nothing more than canon fodder. Xal just want to distract the factions and heroes from her main goal, mostly likely the Sunwell.

[Skytotem]

So, the Nerubians and the Ascendent were nothing more than canon fodder. Xal just want to distract the factions and heroes from her main goal, mostly likely the Sunwell.

My guess is that'll come later, I think she's currently poisoning the 'worldroots'.

[Raetary]

I don't think its necessarily nothing.

We rarely have any main character give us any description of what the cosmological forces tend to be about.
That usually happens in 3rd party sources or remote side quests/interactions.

Xal confirms one of the voids main characteristics is survival of the fittest.
We more or less knew that beforehand, but its not exactly something that was explicitly stated anywhere.

Ansurek cinematic is out. Nothing noteworthy lorewise, really.

Xalataths feet always in the the focus of cinematics is starting to feel really weird though. It was funny to meme about it, but come on. Who's the one with the foot fetish at blizzard?

Tbh, i feel like the feet thing is more coincidental than anything.

The camera shows her hovering above the cutscenes subject.
Literally showing them being beneath her, that Xal is the one in power.

Her feet just stand out because she is barefoot and people are generally weird about feet.

[Timester]

Ansurek's is okay. I think I could have done without another cinematic of Xal chiding the character she's speaking to, but I do like her take on promising nothing but giving everything, the void is a siphon for itself. My guess is that the hopes for Ansurek in Xal'atath's eyes were to be a worthy fight against the factions that would fuel her black blood long enough to achieve whatever goal it is she has with the Dark Heart or Beledar or the Worldsoul, whatever. Ansurek just simply could not fulfill her end of the bargain.

For me, it is Xal childing Ansurek is what makes the cinematic enticing. After all, Xal manipulated Ansurek to take the throne, to build up the Nerubian and now Xal is discarting the previous toys like trash.

[Raetary]

Xals voice actor does monologues really well.

My main gripe is that it lasted a bit too long.

[Reive]

they usually don't do cutscenes for the end of the first raid of the expansion so i don't think it's a big deal. i wonder if there is a campaign chapter post raid tho

[Timester]

My guess is that'll come later, I think she's currently poisoning the 'worldroots'.

Oh, for sure. Xal is playing on so many fields at once. Deals with the Primalists, corrupting the Nerubians, the Machine Speakers, the Stormwards, the Arathi, and being hidden on Dalaran, all at the same time. It's easy for her to do other manipulations that we dont know about yet.

[johnnyd2]

they usually don't do cutscenes for the end of the first raid of the expansion so i don't think it's a big deal. i wonder if there is a campaign chapter post raid tho

we did get the cutscene of the Primal Incarnate Trio getting freed after we killed off Razageth in VOTI at least.

[Makabreska]

Xals voice actor does monologues really well.

My main gripe is that it lasted a bit too long.

Gotta say, the general smugness in her voice is getting annoying very quickly. Good thing Alleria served her a humble pie in the campaign.