The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Polybius]

Has anyone else noticed the Challenge Mode artifact recolors have disappeared from your collection since 11.0? I have the original appearance, but the subsequent colors are just gone

I noticed some missing appearances and needed to relog on my characters who obtained them. This might not work but should still be marked as complete, a script might help confirm your collection.

[THEORACLE64]

I fucking hate Pyromancer's theory videos holy shit...

They are just absolutely nonsensical trash tbh.

[Joshuaj]

They are just absolutely nonsensical trash tbh.

I'm not gonna say anything on the guy himself, cause I don't like the idea of personally attacking someone (Besides, I'm sure he's probably a chill person irl), but I think WoW theories go off the rails when you try to connect literally everything to the Titans, especially in cases where it isn't needed.

[Merryck]

I'm not gonna say anything on the guy himself, cause I don't like the idea of personally attacking someone (Besides, I'm sure he's probably a chill person irl), but I think WoW theories go off the rails when you try to connect literally everything to the Titans, especially in cases where it isn't needed.

Indeed. And I think he's priming himself for another meltdown.

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I sometimes enjoy his content but he can get unhinged.

[Joshuaj]

Indeed. And I think he's priming himself for another meltdown.

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I sometimes enjoy his content but he can get unhinged.

For a fan of the Titans yourself, I would've thought you'd like his content, but it seems not. Gotcha.

Btw, what are you thoughts on the Titans returning in The Last Titan?

[Santandame]

I'm not gonna say anything on the guy himself, cause I don't like the idea of personally attacking someone (Besides, I'm sure he's probably a chill person irl), but I think WoW theories go off the rails when you try to connect literally everything to the Titans, especially in cases where it isn't needed.

The call is coming from inside the house.

[Joshuaj]

The call is coming from inside the house.

Be specific. If you're gonna use the whole "pot calling the kettle black" metaphor, at least say it how it is. Using some other metaphor to sound clever ain't it chief.

[Merryck]

For a fan of the Titans yourself, I would've thought you'd like his content, but it seems not. Gotcha.

Btw, what are you thoughts on the Titans returning in The Last Titan?

I'm concerned that the Titans are only returning in The Last Titan to be raid bosses. Or that they will be humiliated, like how Odyn was humiliated. I'd prefer if they didn't return at all so that they aren't tarnished.

[Civciv]

(Besides, I'm sure he's probably a chill person irl)

oh sweet summer child

[Santandame]

Be specific. If you're gonna use the whole "pot calling the kettle black" metaphor, at least say it how it is. Using some other metaphor to sound clever ain't it chief.

I’m not sure how much more specific you can get.

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I'm concerned that the Titans are only returning in The Last Titan to be raid bosses. Or that they will be humiliated, like how Odyn was humiliated. I'd prefer if they didn't return at all so that they aren't tarnished.

How was Odyn humiliated? He was established as a prick in the same expansion he was introduced in.

I can’t see all the Titans being antagonistic towards us. Aggramar and Eonar for sure won’t be. Golganeth and Khaz’garoth could go either way. Norgannon I imagine will be an antagonist but the better twist would be having him side with us.

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thanks, you talk like wowhead

The theory for the past few years has been that Catastrophy is involved with Blizzard in some way. Be that officially or unofficially. Posts like his/hers on this page only cement that belief.

[Santandame]

Even though it’s, um, being released in the middle of summer.

Yeah, outside of the prominence of a spider like race, nothing about it gives Halloween vibes. It especially doesn’t feel like more of a Halloween expansion than the one that featured vampires, zombies, the realm of death and WoW’s version of the devil.

Then there’s Drustvar from BfA which gives off more Halloween vibes than anything from TWW.

[Hyrja]

Uhh okay

[Merryck]

I’m not sure how much more specific you can get.

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How was Odyn humiliated? He was established as a prick in the same expansion he was introduced in.

I can’t see all the Titans being antagonistic towards us. Aggramar and Eonar for sure won’t be. Golganeth and Khaz’garoth could go either way. Norgannon I imagine will be an antagonist but the better twist would be having him side with us.

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The theory for the past few years has been that Catastrophy is involved with Blizzard in some way. Be that officially or unofficially. Posts like his/hers on this page only cement that belief.

Odyn was humiliated by Vyranoth. With a snap of her finger she froze him, and all he could do was rage as she "freed" the honor bound Thorignir. It was such an awkward scene to watch. Odyn was a prick, but he also helped us fight the Legion and the Jailer ... and the countless other times he fought to protect Azeroth. He was established as a powerful ally.

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And I also expect Aman'Thul and Norgannon to be the biggest stinkers in the Pantheon, as well as a coup led by Eonar ... so that we can have another cringy girl boss moment.

[Dracullus]

Last botched retail release was WoD 10 years ago, so we shouldn't expect some massive issues on launch, but I don't think early access will help. Still shit ton of people bought epic edition (remember mess on beta launch?) and expac launches before weekend, not on Monday.

[Santandame]

Odyn was humiliated by Vyranoth. With a snap of her finger she froze him, and all he could do was rage as she "freed" the honor bound Thorignir. It was such an awkward scene to watch. Odyn was a prick, but he also helped us fight the Legion and the Jailer ... and the countless other times he fought to protect Azeroth. He was established as a powerful ally.

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And I also expect Aman'Thul and Norgannon to be the biggest stinkers in the Pantheon, as well as a coup led by Eonar ... so that we can have another cringy girl boss moment.

Got it, I never did that particular quest chain, cheers. That does sound a bit silly that Vyranoth could so easily overpower Odyn.

I would prefer Eonar actually be our enemy. We need more Life based enemies and it would be a subvert expectations situation I’d welcome. I agree though that sadly she’ll likely be used as the main anti Order figurehead to rally around in a Girl Boss moment.

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Last botched retail release was WoD 10 years ago, so we shouldn't expect some massive issues on launch, but I don't think early access will help. Still shit ton of people bought epic edition (remember mess on beta launch?) and expac launches before weekend, not on Monday.

I don’t think there will be any issues at all. This is overblown every expansion launch, and as you said, we’ve not had any issues since WoD.

We’ve had minor ones, but nothing game breaking.

Legion - Dalaran caused a DC briefly when porting to the Broken Isles

BfA - I actually can’t recall any issues at all and I was there at 11pm for the launch.

Shadowlands - couldn’t connect for like 10-15 mins which was a tad annoying but again, it was an insignificant amount of time.

Dragonflight - the zephyr on Horde crashed and caused a disconnect for a similar time to Shadowlands.

We’ll likely get something similar to those previous situations which is nothing to write home about.

[huth]

Uhh okay

Gee, i wonder what they're planning to do with that server.

[Nathanyel]

Uhh okay
https://i.imgur.com/RhHS0zg.png

"This server was named by staff vote"

[Cheezits]

The amount of people doomsaying about the Amani in Midnight are crazy to me. An Amani zone and renown feel like the most obvious thing in the world to me as the expansion is going to need diverse zones that keep it from being four zones of Silvermoon. They wouldn't just do a "Zandalar/Darkspear" renown in an area that doesn't belong to them and the Amani have the old lore of hating Aqir.

Helf/Belf, Amani, Scourge/Forsaken, Void/Naga feel like the four zone focuses we're going to get at launch. But they may split Helf and Belf into two zones. My personal opinion though is that they are going go reveal neutral Thalassian race/merge Belf into it so they may accentuate it with one renown that features both of them (Thalassian Accord?).

I can also see them skipping a Naga area for a "generic Lordaeron area for humans too" but I hope not.

[Kiivar86]

The amount of people doomsaying about the Amani in Midnight are crazy to me. An Amani zone and renown feel like the most obvious thing in the world to me as the expansion is going to need diverse zones that keep it from being four zones of Silvermoon. They wouldn't just do a "Zandalar/Darkspear" renown in an area that doesn't belong to them and the Amani have the old lore of hating Aqir.

I've mentioned it before but also one of the void elves we speak to in the Harbinger questline mentions how the trail they were tracking went toward Zul'aman before vanishing. There's definitely something going on there.

[Civciv]

The amount of people doomsaying about the Amani in Midnight are crazy to me. An Amani zone and renown feel like the most obvious thing in the world to me as the expansion is going to need diverse zones that keep it from being four zones of Silvermoon. They wouldn't just do a "Zandalar/Darkspear" renown in an area that doesn't belong to them and the Amani have the old lore of hating Aqir.

Helf/Belf, Amani, Scourge/Forsaken, Void/Naga feel like the four zone focuses we're going to get at launch. But they may split Helf and Belf into two zones. My personal opinion though is that they are going go reveal neutral Thalassian race/merge Belf into it so they may accentuate it with one renown that features both of them (Thalassian Accord?).

I can also see them skipping a Naga area for a "generic Lordaeron area for humans too" but I hope not.

I just hope they don't make us kill Amani again