The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Tanaria]

I believe @Tanaria was campaiging for this to be a thing for midnight. Its not a bad idea. It should be horde exclusive tho.

I was, but not as an allied race though.

I believe Felblood Elf features should be just the same as Eredar features for Draenei.

Perhaps a Sin'dorei Demon Hunter-led questline where we go to the Throne of Kil'jaedon and recruit the Felblood Elves scattered around that area. Perhaps, an advancement on seeing more of Outland, disintegrate into the Twisting Nether

[Nymrohd]

We are in an underground expansion so of course most of Delves are underground. But this will change in future expansions or patches. Also followers dungeon with our alts is coming, Ion was pretty clear about it. It is just a matter of time. Hopefully they will eventually allow us to make Delves with them too.

I don't see how delves with followers would work given how big a deal leveling your companion is.

[Darkarath]

I don't see how delves with followers would work given how big a deal leveling your companion is.

Same as now. No matter how many players are doing the Delves, the companion is still there.

[huth]

Tbf, not all of them are caves.

The Underkeep is set inside Azj'kahet.
The Waterworks are set inside a Dam.
The Skittering Breach is a Nerubian Stronghold.
Same as the Spiral Weave.

Of course, they are all underground.
But so is everything else outside of the Isle of Dorne.

For that matter, Kriegsval's Rest is a crypt and Earthcrawl Mines is a mine, not a cave. And it's not a shabby, poorly maintained Kobold mine, either, but a well-supported and fortified Earthen mine.

Only about half of them could be called caves, and two of those are full of water.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Evokers showed Blizz people don't mind playing something with limited transmog options.

Give us Naga without leg and boot transmogs. Do not create new lore to justify giving them a visage form. All fish all the time.

Naga with boot options could exist. One single boot at the tip of their tails, able to transmogged to any boot appearance.

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Ansurek is one of the weakest and most forgetable base patch villains who has been severely replaced and overshadowed by Xalatath, who outside of looking cool/sexy is just a generic villain that stares at the camera.

The base TWW was a letdown for me outside some main character moments (Anduin, Alleria...). The story and (local) characters of the new zones have fallen very flat outside maybe Hallowfall (because I'm a sucker for that stuff, but it's not reallt that great Aesthetics aside).
The story is super rushed.

It's hard for me to get excited in content patches (not counting Anniversary), when there's 0 buildup. The only hype stuff is knowing Midnight with a quelthalas revamp is coming with a Northrend/Ulduar revamp next.

Compared to other "beginning of expansion villains" and a "leader of the major antagonistic group villain" she is definitely one of the worst. Her characterization is in the classic Blizzard style but I think Blizzard always intended her to come off as a weak puppet because... well, she was. That was the entire point of her story and it kind of wastes her as a character.

To live and die believing she was to be something more, only for her to realize at the last possible second of her life what Xal'atath and us the community (Doylist perspective) already knew: she was a meat puppet cannon fodder character.

[Nymrohd]

Also 4 bountiful dungeons per day is perhaps not that ideal. Perhaps the rotation should have been weekly or twice per week (like WQs used to be). And the fact that each per zone so that Ringing Depths delves pretty much alternate makes it worse.

[Gurahk]

Evokers showed Blizz people don't mind playing something with limited transmog options.

Give us Naga without leg and boot transmogs. Do not create new lore to justify giving them a visage form. All fish all the time.

I think it was more of a case of people were already kinda divisive of Dracthyr to begin with to even care about their limited transmog capability.

[Sondrelk]

Also 4 bountiful dungeons per day is perhaps not that ideal. Perhaps the rotation should have been weekly or twice per week (like WQs used to be). And the fact that each per zone so that Ringing Depths delves pretty much alternate makes it worse.

I don't think the intention is to run 4 bountiful delves a day.
You have a limited cache of keys, and I don't think the intention is to run more delves per week that the ones you need for those.

[Nymrohd]

I don't think the intention is to run 4 bountiful delves a day.
You have a limited cache of keys, and I don't think the intention is to run more delves per week that the ones you need for those.

The main issue is leveling Brann. I think past level 45 leveling slows down significantly.

[Sondrelk]

The main issue is leveling Brann. I think past level 45 leveling slows down significantly.

What Delves needs is some kind of weekly quest I think. Something simple that gives you a large amount of experience or something to establish a clear idea of a large chunk of the levels coming weekly, and a smaller amount coming to those that grind.

Maybe even something as simple as the first four Delves each week giving a massive amount of experience, with that bonus being Warbound to prevent the current issue of being able to grind out Brann with alts.

[Nymrohd]

What Delves needs is some kind of weekly quest I think. Something simple that gives you a large amount of experience or something to establish a clear idea of a large chunk of the levels coming weekly, and a smaller amount coming to those that grind.

Maybe even something as simple as the first four Delves each week giving a massive amount of experience, with that bonus being Warbound to prevent the current issue of being able to grind out Brann with alts.

That would work. Alternatively, just have the four bountiful delves last half a week and alternate on Saturday like world quests did in DF.

[Lady Atia]

That would work. Alternatively, just have the four bountiful delves last half a week and alternate on Saturday like world quests did in DF.

But why would you give people less options to do, I don't get it. If you don't want to do 4 delves / day, just skip it??

[huth]

The main issue is leveling Brann. I think past level 45 leveling slows down significantly.

And the issue is? There's no practical need to get that done as quickly as possible.

[Melorandor]

What is TLT going to have feature wise? No new races until TLT?

[Darkarath]

What is TLT going to have feature wise? No new races until TLT?

Impossible to know right now.

Seems that TWW will bring an evergreen Brawler's Guild (which could be amazing) and a revamped Archeology, probably along some new Allied Races.

Midnight might bring a new race, evergreen Class Order Halls mixed with housing? Who knows.

I am personally betting for a new race (Vrykul) and a new class in TLT. Probably something similar to the Tinker / Machinist archetype.

[Nymrohd]

So Anub'Azal seems to die off screen at the end of his questline which is acknowledged by the Weaver yet he keeps giving world quests?

[Echeyakee]

Probably a hot take, I would guess that WSS would be about the birth and growth a a new titan. And a logical continuation is that we will set off on some universe spanning adventure, to fight evil or something like that. So there probably will be some world building in that direction, like void lords finally showing themselves. We will likely get some hints pointing that way this expansion.

That said, ABs writing has been unreliable, if I'm being kind. And so far TWW was a solid meh, story wise.

[huth]

So Anub'Azal seems to die off screen at the end of his questline which is acknowledged by the Weaver yet he keeps giving world quests?

Eh, you also keep getting world quests that no longer make sense after the story reason for them is resolved. This is more on the territory of raid bosses respawning every week. Storywise, none of it happens, it's just so there's still something for you to do.

[Darkarath]

Probably a hot take, I would guess that WSS would be about the birth and growth a a new titan. And a logical continuation is that we will set off on some universe spanning adventure, to fight evil or something like that. So there probably will be some world building in that direction, like void lords finally showing themselves. We will likely get some hints pointing that way this expansion.

That said, ABs writing has been unreliable, if I'm being kind. And so far TWW was a solid meh, story wise.

No chances of exploring the universe in new expansions after SL. Only in patches. Never in expansions. They learned their lesson well regarding this, I hope.

If anything they are leaving hints of new parts of Azeroth to explore, with potentially two new continents as of now (Avaloren - Arathi Empire continent - Continent that killed Keeper's expeditions...). Probably the Arathi Empire continent is Avaloren, but pretty sure that there is at least one more.

My hope is that the next trilogy, if they keep up with this format, is the Arathi Empire Saga, or Light Saga, call it what you will. Probably with one expansion in Kalimdor and two in the Arathi's continent.

Too soon to speculate about this, though. We are just starting the WSS and we have no idea of where 11.1 will take us.

[Kiivar86]

No chances of exploring the universe in new expansions after SL. Only in patches. Never in expansions. They learned their lesson well regarding this, I hope.

I wouldn't say never, they can always not learn their lesson and try again.

I recall people at Blizzard saying how Catalcysm's zones being completely unconnected to one another hurt things - yet that came about again in Shadowlands, for example.