The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

Hmmm, could be a new theme to the pre-expansion lore videos, maybe switching the art style per video.

The soontm thing makes me think it's going to be a little further off than that. It could be a preview of Midnight's shorts, or even an actual animated series.

Edit: Perhaps its some sort of timey wimey thing to promote the anniversary event? There's orcs in the short, and that doesn't make sense on any temporal level.

[Merryck]

They'll probably show it at gamescom

[Enrif]

The soontm thing makes me think it's going to be a little further off than that. It could be a preview of Midnight's shorts, or even an actual animated series.

Edit: Perhaps its some sort of timey wimey thing to promote the anniversary event? There's orcs in the short, and that doesn't make sense on any temporal level.

It is a scene depicting WC2, were the Amani Trolls and Orcs attacked Silvermoon. The only anachronistic bit is Lor'themars outfit, but that could be a retcon that he always dressed like that.

[BaumanKing]

https://x.com/Warcraft/status/1823811865375285454 Get ready!

That's defenitly the burning of Quel'Thalas from WC2. But why focus on this particular event? To show Alleria's backstory?

Ngl it's great to see Alleria and Sylvanas in action together, having only read about it in ToD novel. I'm hoping that Khadgar, Kurdran, Orgrim, and Zul'jin will also be in the short, since they all participated in this event.

[Enrif]

Screenshots from Wowhead to see the key frames better


BLUE roofs on the spires! There is no real "main color" among the elves. Lor'themar uses his current look.



Alleria slapping that bow



That's Sylvanas. Vereesa would have shorter hair. And that pissed look just fits Sylvanas.

[Merryck]

Maybe the Blood Elves picked red because of Lorthemar

[Ersula]

It is a scene depicting WC2, were the Amani Trolls and Orcs attacked Silvermoon. The only anachronistic bit is Lor'themars outfit, but that could be a retcon that he always dressed like that.

We may be getting some sort of new lore, because the old Horde actually marching on quelthalas is never mentioned until chronicles 1. Before that we only knew the Amani were hired to help them attack lordaeron. I suppose them also attacking silvermoon for the Amani would have been quid pro quo

Still shocked we finally have a reason to give Vanessa some characterization & she's just gone.

[BaumanKing]

We may be getting some sort of new lore, because the old Horde actually marching on quelthalas is never mentioned until chronicles 1

There is a whole chapter about this event in the novel Tides of Darkness. Lothar sends Khadgar and Alleria from Hinterlands to intercept the Horde marching towards Quel'Thalas. The same event is described in Sylvanas recent novel, but from her point of view. The Horde burned the forests of Quel'Thalas with the help of enslaved red dragons.

[Joshuaj]

Screenshots from Wowhead to see the key frames better


BLUE roofs on the spires! There is no real "main color" among the elves. Lor'themar uses his current look.



Alleria slapping that bow



That's Sylvanas. Vereesa would have shorter hair. And that pissed look just fits Sylvanas.

I imagine the canonical reason for the blue spires is due to the fact that they're in the Alliance of Lordaeron, so they recolored parts of the city to reflect that. Though, based off other implications, it's possible that the city was always blue? Or turned red after the second war? Cause everything in modern art for WC3 shows the city with the red colored buildings.

[Ersula]

There is a whole chapter about this event in the novel Tides of Darkness. Lothar sends Khadgar and Alleria from Hinterlands to intercept the Horde marching towards Quel'Thalas. The same event is described in Sylvanas recent novel, but from her point of view. The Horde burned the forests of Quel'Thalas with the help of enslaved red dragons.

They were intercepting the horde on their way to *Lordaeron.* And the Sylvanas book came out after Chronicles 1.

[Cheezits]

Regardless of the real reason, swapping up animation styles for the shorts is a great twist and I think is emblematic of what they are trying to do with TWW.

Also there's no way they were going to animate nerubians like this. Too much of a pain.

[Scyth]

I'll be more than happy with a short video tbh but if this is something else, I'm all for it! Very hype for this.

[Plehnard]

Those Trolls look a lot like Blanka from Street Fighter

[Zardas]

We may be getting some sort of new lore, because the old Horde actually marching on quelthalas is never mentioned until chronicles 1.

The 11th mission of the Horde side of war2 is the Horde marching on Quel'thalas (https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/The_De...alls_(WC2_Orc))

[Lorgar Aurelian]

This does make me start to think that if we get a class in Midnight that it’ll be tied to the Army of the Light (or just the light) somehow.

Keep In mind Metzen followers that up directly with saying that said banishment doesn’t go as planned.

[Steampunkette]

Why are the orcs Brown?

[huth]

Why are the orcs Brown?

They're yellowish green and lighting.

[Joshuaj]

Why are the orcs Brown?

...Gonna lay it down for ya here.

It is possible not every Orc drank the blood of Mannoroth, and it's also possible the fel effects on Draenor didn't effect every orcs skin.

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Hell, funny enough, the non-canon Warcraft movie touches on this idea

[Raetary]

Why are the orcs Brown?

They are not.

[BaumanKing]

They were intercepting the horde on their way to *Lordaeron.* And the Sylvanas book came out after Chronicles 1.

Orgrim had no intention of invading Quel'Thalas at first, but he made a deal with Zul'jin to destroy the kingdom of high elves. And since Amani bolstered the Horde's ranks and provided them with their expertise of this unfamiliar land, Orgrim at least tried to fulfill his end of the deal. Eventually he grew disinterested with the siege of Silvermoon, seeing its futility to the Horde, and withdrew the majority of his army to march towards Lordaeron.

I also wonder if red dragons' involvement in the burning of Quel'Thalas will be retconned since we see fire catapults instead? DF has already low-key retconned this problematic dragon enslavement plot.