1. #77501
    Quote Originally Posted by Nibelheimy View Post
    Thinking more, its really strange to have this crystal be essentially Azerite, when none of the Azerite veins in BFA had any voice influence despite N'zoth returning and influencing the world at that time.
    Looking back The Heart of Azeroth was basically a conduit between the worldsoul and mortals.

    I'm okay with the fact she represents all 6 cosmic forces. It does explain why Sargeras is hell bent on destroying Azeroth, the Burning legion mission has always been to destroy a world soul which can be tainted by the void and showing it's void-form obviously set the green light for the latest Burning Legion invasion and why he attacked her in desperation. I'm seeing very similar writing to FF14 where you have Azeroth acting as Hydalen, Sergeras as the Ascians and Dimenius as Zodiark.

    What I absolute hate however is the Crystals being glorified Azerite. It feels like we're back in BFA pre-patch again.

    But I don't fully understand now is Azeorth a heel world soul or a face one? Because of her ability to represent the Void she will always be a magnet for evil forces - When the crystal turns people it's not just the forces of the void she's attracting but also the fel who's mission is to rid of the void in a completely insane way.

  2. #77502
    We already knew Xenedar was made of Argunite which is implied to be the crystalized blood of Argus's worldsoul. So the only thing that would be strange here is if Beledar is actually made of Azerite and not from some other worldsoul that crashed into Azeroth. The whole report could just explaining Naaru ships are made from worldsoul chunks.

    Also I found it intresting that the early concept of the Xenedar its called "the Benodar".


  3. #77503
    Looking over the crystal now, when It turns from light to void and vice versa you can quite clearly see Naaru looking runes on it. One of them I'm pretty certain is usable as a head rune customization by lightforged Draenei.

    I find it hard to believe this specific crystal is naturally formed. Albeit, this is a fantasy universe so anything goes. But do crystals tend to form alone this way naturally?

    But if the crystal is to be a naturally formed thing from Worldsoul essence, why is it primarily light? I was okay with the idea of a Worldsoul being a primordial energy that could be influenced by any of the six forces. I liked the idea of the greater beings of the Light sending Naaru ships across the universe to reach planets and preach the ways of the light as a mirror to the void lords flinging old gods across space to infest planets.

    Also, while different people's can have similar language. Calling it freaking Beledar if its not a Naaru ship is weird. We have the concept art of the crystal with a doorway, we have the Naaru ship naming convention, we have interviews were it was stated that the Hallowfall crystal is the falling star the emperor saw in his vision, it turns to void like an injured Naaru but only after the sword hit the planet, it has Naaru runes on it. If it's an azerite crystal, some plans have changed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    We already knew Xenedar was made of Argunite which is implied to be the crystalized blood of Argus's worldsoul. So the only thing that would be strange here is if Beledar is actually made of Azerite and not from some other worldsoul that crashed into Azeroth. The whole report could just explaining Naaru ships are made from worldsoul chunks.

    Also I found it intresting that the early concept of the Xenedar its called "the Benodar".

    I'm not so sure on that, the Xenedar split from the Genedar after the Naaru arrive on Argus and leave to rescue Velen and the Draenei from the planet. I don't think it would be possible for it to have been made of chunks of Argus Worldsoul essence because the ship existed (to our knowledge anyway) before arrival on Argus.

    I don't hate the idea of the Naaru ships being made of Worldsoul crystals, maybe the Beledar is yet to be made into one? but I dislike the idea of the planet having already cosmic influenced power crystals growing in it. I don't want to go to an island in TLT and it has a big green fel crystal in it because 'Azeroth is made of all cosmic forces, but this one is bad, the light ones are okay though.'

    My other gripe is there is no blue azerite tinge in the Beledar. Nah, I don't buy it at all. I'm gunna be stuck on team Beleder is a Naaru ship and I pray we don't get put into cut content wow hell.

    - so presumably this next patch with the' goblin crystal' will be our forbidden reach styled zone for the patch cadence? I have to say as others have said, it will be pretty anticlimactic if this is just a zone with goblins mining a separate crystal.

    At least if its the top of the Beledar there's some kind of interest there. Will they mine and discover an entrance to inside it? Do we have to stop them mining it before the crystal falls from the ceiling of Hallowfall into the abyss below? (Falling star? Underwater patch incoming)

    If its just a seperate large Azerite crystal, I'm not really sure what story we can expect from it. Its unlikely to be Kaja'mite, because the crystal is scaring people away right? It's not making them smarter. I really REALLY hope it isn't a maw coloured spooky 'death crystal'. (can you even imagine right?)

    We already had Azerite in BFA, they didn't really do it justice. I don't think I'd like to see it again with this level of scale. It was okay to have it a little bit with playable Earthern. I've gone from loving to being incredibly scared of giant crystals in one day.
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  4. #77504
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Then Sargeras went stabby stab nearby as well.
    I rather doubt he aimed for any place in particular. He wasn't exactly at liberty to carefully select his target at the time.

    And from what i remember, the Titans discovered Azeroth before the Void. They shaped ancient Kalimdor into the supercontinent the Old Gods then ruled over for millenia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    I rather doubt he aimed for any place in particular. He wasn't exactly at liberty to carefully select his target at the time.

    And from what i remember, the Titans discovered Azeroth before the Void. They shaped ancient Kalimdor into the supercontinent the Old Gods then ruled over for millenia.
    The Old Gods were ruling over Azeroth before the Titans arrived.
    Kalimdor was a supercontinent back then too, as seen in the chronicles.




  6. #77506
    Not sure why people cling to the "naaru ship/anything" theory for Beledar.

    If it is indeed calcified Azerite, it is very likely just that, but a majority of it is Light-imbued.
    It could be a literal bloodclot, either to stop that Light energy from spreading, or Azeroth used this to enclose Void-y parts of her, which would explain the cycles of darkness - Sargeras stabbing the planet weakened the confinement, now the Void is trying to break out.

    Or some agent of the Light turned this particular crystal to the Light, which in turn makes it susceptible to falling to the Void, similar to Naaru. Similar. That is was vaguely called "Naaru Crystal" on a concept map is no proof to me that the Naaru are directly involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raetary View Post
    Guess the new island the goblins found isn't the top of Beledar but another crystal entirely.
    Too late, "the island is Beledar's top" is already the new "Beledar is the Sword's tip".
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  7. #77507
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post

    Seems like they all realise this is the place to be if you want to stay in the race for taking the worldsoul as a prize. I guess six seats at the high table, only one will remain to claim its prize.
    Coincidentally this was a unsolved riddle from N'Zoth in the Crucible raid.

    Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others.

    Atleast we know the context of that now. It would appear Azeroth will be a problem World soul if she's capable of radiating Death, Chaos and Void energy all in 1 aswell as the 3 good forces.

    Sargeras stabbed Azeroth because he sensed the Void energy from her. It all ties together.
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  8. #77508
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    Not sure why people cling to the "naaru ship/anything" theory for Beledar.

    If it is indeed calcified Azerite, it is very likely just that, but a majority of it is Light-imbued.
    It could be a literal bloodclot, either to stop that Light energy from spreading, or Azeroth used this to enclose Void-y parts of her, which would explain the cycles of darkness - Sargeras stabbing the planet weakened the confinement, now the Void is trying to break out.

    Or some agent of the Light turned this particular crystal to the Light, which in turn makes it susceptible to falling to the Void, similar to Naaru. Similar. That is was vaguely called "Naaru Crystal" on a concept map is no proof to me that the Naaru are directly involved.
    While I don't think your explanation is illogical or anything, I do think it's way too convoluted to be the likely answer. I feel like they wouldn't have multi-sourced so much about it being fundamentally Light/Void based and Naaru-adjacent and from above if the plan was that it's something else.

  9. #77509
    Quote Originally Posted by OCoyne View Post
    Coincidentally this was a unsolved riddle from N'Zoth in the Crucible raid.

    Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others.

    Atleast we know the context of that now. It would appear Azeroth will be a problem World soul if she's capable of radiating Death, Chaos and Void energy all in 1 aswell as the 3 good forces.

    Sargeras stabbed Azeroth because he sensed the Void energy from her. It all ties together.
    Light, Life and Order aren't inherently good (just like Death, Chaos and Void aren't inherently bad).

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    These new information is... interesting.

    First things first. There is no confirmation that the Beledar is some calcification, it was a question asked by Dagran.

    But let's look back, When we were in Hallowfall with Anduin he remarked that the light crystals used by the Arathi are similar to Azerite, but not quite the same. Anduin had Azerite in hand when it first appeared, so he should notice if it is the same (the vison of power to create and destroy he got when touching it). Next, we know from Gallywix that the tip of his staff, was azerite, and since Gallywix had Azerite on his staff before the sword, the gold and blue hue of it is not from whatever sargeras did.

    So, Then why is Azerite gold and blue, but the Beledar only golden and turns purple, not blue. Which should mean, they are not the same. But, they can still be related.

    We know of the origin story of the universe from chronicles. Sure, titan pov yadda yadda. But, the shards of light that started all life could still be a true thing. So, where do worldsouls come from in the first place? According to that story, maybe every world soul IS a shard of light. But don't light turn to shadow automatically? Like the Beledar?

    Well, not all Shadow is the same. With TWW we saw some very interesting color choices for some things. Old god shadow is purple-magenta colored, so more into the red spectrum. While Xal'atahts shadow is more pure purple and less red. But then we also have cosmic voids shadow, which is distinctively blue. We can see that perfectly in these icons for some crafting materials. Also note the names given to these icons.

    inv_nullstone_shadow


    inv_nullstone_void


    inv_nullstone_cosmicvoid


    So. What if, world souls, are shards of light, but also void? This would perfectly explain the color of azerite of being gold for light, and blue for cosmic void. So, how does the Beledar fit in here? The beledar might also be a shard of light, but a smaller one. And a smaller shard might not be able to turn into a world soul, but the next best thing, Naaru. Naaru, we know, communicate in song like fashion. Like the Radiant Song. We also know, that Elune is supposedly the "mother" of the prime naaru. Now, Elune is always connected to the moon, and also seems to have a shadow side. This all could be connected. The bigger the shard of light, the more powerful a being is. Perhaps Elune is from a bigger shard of light, but not quite a world soul. This let's me think of a hierarchy of power which could explain a few things, but others are still open and need more information.
    • Prime Shard of Light - Prime World Soul - Azeroth
    • World Shard of Light - World Soul - Titans, Argus, Sargers
    • Moon Shard of Light - ??? - Elune
    • Star Shard of Light - ??? - Beledar (same or above Prime Naaru?)
    • Mayor Shard of Light - Prime Naaru - X'era
    • Minor Shard of Light - Naaru - A'dal and others

    This is a lot of ramble. But is quite fun to speculate.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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    The original concept of the World Soul was that they were created by Light and Void interacting. Perhaps we are just going back to that. Beledar is now a huge chunk not of the blood of Azeroth but of the SOUL of Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    From the point of view of players, I think they could considered better than the three opposing forces.

    For one, they haven't sought to destroy and defile as the rest of them do. Instead, they're focused on building things, creation, and beauty.

    But their success is also inherently tied to ours.

    If Life controls Azeroth, it's all good. We thrive.

    If Light controls Azeroth, it's all good. We thrive.

    If Order controls Azeroth, it's all good. We thrive.

    If Death, Disorder, or Shadow control Azeroth, it becomes a literal hellscape (if it even survives) and everything on it is either corrupt, dead, or suffering.

    Now, granted, there's nuance. Order and Light tend to be too controlling and their adherents rather zealous. Sometimes they see us as ants, unimportant in the larger scheme of things. Life can also be rather chaotic in its ambition to spread, as seen with the Botani.

    But there's no question that three forces are more destructive.
    If any of the first three controls Azeroth, we are fucked. Life goes rampant and we are in a survival of the fittest jungle. Light just crystallizes us into permanence, Order snuffs out free will. Now if we get those three in balance then yes, we thrive. Which is what Azeroth has had for a long time.

  12. #77512
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    From the point of view of players, I think they could considered better than the three opposing forces.

    For one, they haven't sought to destroy and defile as the rest of them do. Instead, they're focused on building things, creation, and beauty.

    But their success is also inherently tied to ours.

    If Life controls Azeroth, it's all good. We thrive.

    If Light controls Azeroth, it's all good. We thrive.

    If Order controls Azeroth, it's all good. We thrive.

    If Death, Disorder, or Shadow control Azeroth, it becomes a literal hellscape (if it even survives) and everything on it is either corrupt, dead, or suffering.

    Now, granted, there's nuance. Order and Light tend to be too controlling and their adherents rather zealous. Sometimes they see us as ants, unimportant in the larger scheme of things. Life can also be rather chaotic in its ambition to spread, as seen with the Botani.

    But there's no question that three forces are more destructive.
    If Life controls Azeroth, civilization wouldn't be possible, you would get your life choked out by vines and uncontrollable growths (see the Sporemound in Draenor). If you are even allowed to die and not just shamble around as a overgrown corpse.

    If Light controls Azeroth, it's all good, you thrive, as long as you adhere to the Light's will. If you stray from that path, you are free to be hunted down.

    If Order controls Azeroth, the titans can just go back to there Order, eradicate all new life and re-establish their robotic heritage.

    Yeah, Void, Chaos and Death clearly can be seen as more chaotic, but it remains to be seen what Chaos even is without Sargeras at the helm twisting it's nature. Death is actually rather orderly and apart from Zovaal, could actually be seen as a rather benevolent force in the grand scheme of things. While the void at it's extreme end is just nothingness and madness, it also encourages to question order and the status quo.

    It's just a very surface level observation, because we have already seen the Worst of what Chaos, Death and the Void have to "offer", while what Light, Life and Order have done are either way in the past, or just "background noise" (Like the Light basically glassing AU Draenor).

    The Emerald Dream we see is just like a tamed version of it's true form. A book in 10.2 reports, that Waves of "joy and contentment" washed over a druid who came close to the edges of the dream, before falling asleep. It could be that this is similar to the madness that people who deal with the void experience.
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  13. #77513
    since Gallywix had Azerite on his staff before the sword, the gold and blue hue of it is not from whatever sargeras did.

    So, Then why is Azerite gold and blue, but the Beledar only golden and turns purple, not blue. Which should mean, they are not the same. But, they can still be related.

    We know of the origin story of the universe from chronicles. Sure, titan pov yadda yadda. But, the shards of light that started all life could still be a true thing. So, where do worldsouls come from in the first place? According to that story, maybe every world soul IS a shard of light. But don't light turn to shadow automatically? Like the Beledar
    This is actually incorrect. In its inactive state, Azerite fades to, and stays, blood red. The way Gallywix knew that the sword and azerite were suddenly going to be a massive deal was because his cane top (and the rest of the small initial Goblin supply from Kezan) was energized and turned back to gold after the Sword, when the azerite began to surge.

  14. #77514
    I cannot help but think of the book WoW: Traveler as I've mention on this thread before because of all the similarities found in it to what's going on right now in TWW.

    The book has Greydon Thorne, a human tasked with protecting a very powerful Naaru because that same Naaru is protecting ALL OF AZEROTH from an event called the Darkstorm.
    There were attempts to corrupt Azeroth by Void and Burning Legion forces, and it was the Naaru that kept all of that at bay.

    Greydon Thorne is guided by the "Voice of Light" to a compass that is made up of Naaru shards that resonate with other and potentially much bigger Naaru crystals.

    He is told to gather the shards to form the Diamond Blade. An artifact of legend that will be used to protect Azeroth from the Darkstorm.

    He is then taken to the Outlands by a sect of the Burning Legion called the Hidden.

    Fast forward and then we have his son, also being guided by this Radiant voice to use the compass and gather the shards to create the Diamond Blade. While in Feralas, the compass points to the East and South East (where Beledar would be).

    The Darkstorm is described as being a void/cosmic entity that swallows up anything and needs to constantly be fed.
    It's described as a small, purple, void-looking, mass with lights/stars in it (Exactly what we see inside the Dark heart).

    If allowed to do it's "thing" it will consume Azeroth and plunge it into complete darkness.

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    I cannot help but feel like this mirrors what's going on a bit too much and that Beledar might have been here before the Titans found Azeroth. So they probably lied yet again about it being Azeroth's essence when it could be Naaru in nature and exactly what's shielding Azeroth from corrupting forces and why Xal'atath is trying to corrupt the crystal. If she succeeds then... Shield down. Leading to the Darkstorm (Which sounds an awful lot like Midnight).

  15. #77515
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Yes, you are both correct in saying that 100% Light/Life/Order probably would end up bad for us.

    I should have been more nuanced in my response. My point was that those three are still better in, let's call it abundance, than the rest.

    For example, you very rarely see Disorder, Death, or Shadow be forces for good. I suppose Alleria can be touted as an example, and Illidan, as well as the playable characters. But even them, it's still very apparent that the forces behind these characters are bad. They're going against the grain, swimming upstream, and angering the people in charge, as it were.

    You don't see Turalyon constantly being lured by the Light to massacre his family.

    You don't see Mages turn bad in the name of Order. When they do become too power-hungry, they turn into Warloxks and instead use Fel and Shadow magic.

    You don't see Malfurion or Ysera turning insane over the idea that Life should control everything or cause any suffering. They seem more concerned with making sure Life is allowed to survive, and thrive in their own little corners of Azeroth.

    So yeah, I'm fully aboard with the idea that any force can turn dangerous for Azeroth's mortals when left unchecked (see Yrel, Xe'ra, Botani, etc). But only three forces seem to have this inherent malice about them, and you know it's bad news whenever they show up.

    I guess you could argue Death is more benevolent without the Jailer around, we'll see what happens with that.
    As I said I think part of it is that we already saw the worst the Void, Chaos and Death have to offer. But they are also needed opposites to they "good" counterparts if you want to say that.

    If you want creation, you need destruction to make room for new things.

    If you want life, you need death otherwise soon enough nothing will have room to grow.

    If you want the order of the Light you need dissent to evolve, change and adapt to new challenges.

  16. #77516
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    For example, you very rarely see Disorder, Death, or Shadow be forces for good. I suppose Alleria can be touted as an example, and Illidan, as well as the playable characters. But even them, it's still very apparent that the forces behind these characters are bad. They're going against the grain, swimming upstream, and angering the people in charge, as it were.

    You don't see Turalyon constantly being lured by the Light to massacre his family.

    You don't see Mages turn bad in the name of Order. When they do become too power-hungry, they turn into Warloxks and instead use Fel and Shadow magic.

    You don't see Malfurion or Ysera turning insane over the idea that Life should control everything or cause any suffering. They seem more concerned with making sure Life is allowed to survive, and thrive in their own little corners of Azeroth.

    So yeah, I'm fully aboard with the idea that any force can turn dangerous for Azeroth's mortals when left unchecked (see Yrel, Xe'ra, Botani, etc). But only three forces seem to have this inherent malice about them, and you know it's bad news whenever they show up.
    A lot of double-standards going on here. You can't write off singular examples of good people in three of the forces as not counting for the whole, and then attempt to provide singular examples of good people in the other three (including mages, who are barely even "Order") as examples of why the other three are generally okay.

    I don't see Turalyon being constantly lured to massacre his family, true. But I saw the Scarlet Crusade, Yrel's Lightbound, and the Adherents of Rukhmar, commit kingdom or planet-wide genocide, create experimental child-weapons, and raze entire villages of non-combatants in the name of the Light. I've seen Naaru attempt to forcibly enslave people, and the Light literally glass a whole region in another plane because they learned someone tried to spy on them.

    I don't see mages turn bad in the name of order, but I see the Titans going from world to world, wiping out, enslaving or subjugating the native inhabitants, carving up the entire planet surface to match their aesthetic senses and passing research interests. I see them fitting the planet equivalent of a bomb collar onto a world soul in case things don't go their way and they need to casually, auto-vaporize an entire world and all life on it. I see even trace order magic outright brainwashing people into soldiers.

    I don't see Malfurion or a dragon who spends most of her time asleep turning insane--because instead Life itself literally reality warps the surrounding terrain any time the Emerald Dream leaks, spawning rampant lashers, thorns and deadly vines. I see Elementals, the primordial form of Life on most worlds, turning entire planets into warzones in their bid for conquest and power, and Life without a force opposing it turning into parasitic overgrowth that could swallow entire planets.

    You're quick to write off Illidan, ignoring the entire faction of fel-infused demonic Shivarra standing at his back, fighting the Legion across worlds for the good of all, at the cost of their own lives. You single out Alleria, but ignore the Arakkoa Outcasts, using shadow benevolently to defend, hide and protect their people from genocide, or the Shadowmoon who existed peacefully as shadow and void users until the Iron Horde convinced them to go on the aggressive, or the Auchenai who have used shadow and death magic alongside Light for centuries to protect the spirits of their dead.


    Order only "lacks inherent malice" because it's already conquered the entire planet and left. If the game were set in the Black Empire, or the Titans didn't arrive until today, you'd currently be fighting endless stone legions while Aman'thul crushed capital cities to remove any pushback. Life and Light only lack inherent malice because, on azeroth, there are too many other forces constantly beating them back to make a play.

  17. #77517
    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    These new information is... interesting.

    First things first. There is no confirmation that the Beledar is some calcification, it was a question asked by Dagran.

    But let's look back, When we were in Hallowfall with Anduin he remarked that the light crystals used by the Arathi are similar to Azerite, but not quite the same. Anduin had Azerite in hand when it first appeared, so he should notice if it is the same (the vison of power to create and destroy he got when touching it). Next, we know from Gallywix that the tip of his staff, was azerite, and since Gallywix had Azerite on his staff before the sword, the gold and blue hue of it is not from whatever sargeras did.

    So, Then why is Azerite gold and blue, but the Beledar only golden and turns purple, not blue. Which should mean, they are not the same. But, they can still be related.

    We know of the origin story of the universe from chronicles. Sure, titan pov yadda yadda. But, the shards of light that started all life could still be a true thing. So, where do worldsouls come from in the first place? According to that story, maybe every world soul IS a shard of light. But don't light turn to shadow automatically? Like the Beledar?

    Well, not all Shadow is the same. With TWW we saw some very interesting color choices for some things. Old god shadow is purple-magenta colored, so more into the red spectrum. While Xal'atahts shadow is more pure purple and less red. But then we also have cosmic voids shadow, which is distinctively blue. We can see that perfectly in these icons for some crafting materials. Also note the names given to these icons.

    inv_nullstone_shadow


    inv_nullstone_void


    inv_nullstone_cosmicvoid


    So. What if, world souls, are shards of light, but alsoww void? This would perfectly explain the color of azerite of being gold for light, and blue for cosmic void. So, how does the Beledar fit in here? The beledar might also be a shard of light, but a smaller one. And a smaller shard might not be able to turn into a world soul, but the next best thing, Naaru. Naaru, we know, communicate in song like fashion. Like the Radiant Song. We also know, that Elune is supposedly the "mother" of the prime naaru. Now, Elune is always connected to the moon, and also seems to have a shadow side. This all could be connected. The bigger the shard of light, the more powerful a being is. Perhaps Elune is from a bigger shard of light, but not quite a world soul. This let's me think of a hierarchy of power which could explain a few things, but others are still open and need more information.
    [LIST][*]Prime Shard of Light - Prime World Soul - Azeroth[*]World Shard of Light - World Soul - Titans, Argus, Sargers[*]Moon Shard of Light - ??? - Elune[*]Star Shard of Light - ??? - Beledar (same or above Prime Naaru?)[*]Mayor Shard of Light - Prime Naaru - X'era[*]Minor Shard of Light - Naaru - A'dal and .
    Oh bummer, tried not to quote to big , but on a small phone .

    Anyways; Have they always divised shadow, void and cosmic void?
    I wish my priest could go back to pink shadow and less voidy

  18. #77518
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    While I don't think your explanation is illogical or anything, I do think it's way too convoluted to be the likely answer.
    Maybe. Sure, I expanded upon my theories, but I see the premises as Occam's Razors, making more sense (or at least being more interesting) than "everything in the Light is Naaru".
    But your duty to Azeroth is not yet complete. More is demanded of you... a price the living cannot pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    This is actually incorrect. In its inactive state, Azerite fades to, and stays, blood red. The way Gallywix knew that the sword and azerite were suddenly going to be a massive deal was because his cane top (and the rest of the small initial Goblin supply from Kezan) was energized and turned back to gold after the Sword, when the azerite began to surge.
    i had the innate red azerite first too in that paragraph, but decided to remove it. Why did Gallywix azerite turned from gold-blue to red, and then again from red to gold-blue? I don't think we ever had an answer for that. And i couldn't find a good reason, even when i tried to fit in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rootsbum View Post
    Oh bummer, tried not to quote to big , but on a small phone .

    Anyways; Have they always divised shadow, void and cosmic void?
    I wish my priest could go back to pink shadow and less voidy
    Not in a way we see it in TWW. They started in DF with Sarkareht raid. But these colors are new for TWW and the cosmic void colors match the void effects used in Plunderstorm and what alleria is using.

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    Oh!, that is a fascinating bit of lore info most will not have. But than again, blizz used books to have some lore stuff that never went anywhere. There was a human druid in the stormrage book for example.
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    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
    Enforcer (Warden/Spellbreaker) Class Idea , Naga using Worgen Rig Mockup, Blizz Class Survey

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    I feel like they have put a lot of emphasis on how the 6 cosmic forces have many, many variations in the ways they interconnect. For example, the sacred flame being both light and arcane. But there's many other smaller examples, like elementals in the isle of dorn being a mix of earth and water.

    I feel like they might use this concept to justify the different shades of void/shadow we've been getting. The pinkish old god void being some intersection with life/death, since they are all about flesh and the originators of the curse of flesh (and the mortality that came with it). The true purple being pure void. And the cosmic void being an intersection of void and order?

    I don't know, but I do think that this idea that they came up with does lend itself to explain a lot of variation, while also providing a lot of potential for new lore.

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