The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Skytotem]

I wad thoroughly amused by the Metzen interview. He completely put to bed MMOC's conspiracy theory that he came back and started calling the shots and undoing a bunch of shit. According to his own words, he's mostly a guide, and he's letting the same writers people complained about cook. Doesn't sound like he's going to retcon or assume control either. Honestly, I think it's a good thing. WoW narrative issue is that there's always one person commanding the rest of the team, regardless of how lore accurate/good their ideas are.

Really? I always got the too many cooks vibe and the impression I got from Metzen was that he was bringing just enough guidance to make them more cohesive without being overbearing

[username993720]

What an insecure thing to say. You people are so fragile.

Besides, you're definitely lying. In TWW there are two main characters - Alleria AND Anduin. There are also Magni and Dagran with Moira tagging along.

So how is this "the feminist expansion"? Throughout the story, Alleria constantly loses, and Moira doesn't even do anything significant.

Don't get me wrong, i'm glad Magni is finally not the annoying speaker of Azeroth. But, that last line:

Earthen: "who am i?"
Magni: "whoever you want to be"

Is just cringy external-game affairs thrusted into the story and atmosphere.

The cinematic was well made, i agree.
But, this is just more of Dragonflight with a different setting: The power of friendship, powerful females and fragile males.

[MCMLXXXII]

Alleria isn't the best Archer, is she? I've just finished the Hallowfall storyline and she missed every single arrow she fired up to now.

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Don't get me wrong, i'm glad Magni is finally not the annoying speaker of Azeroth. But, that last line:

Earthen: "who am i?"
Magni: "whoever you want to be"

Is just cringy external-game affairs thrusted into the story and atmosphere.

The cinematic was well made, i agree.
But, this is just more of Dragonflight with a different setting: The power of friendship, powerful females and fragile males.

While I agree that that line is quite cringe, I fail to see the link to the external-game affairs.

[Timester]

Earthen: "who am i?"
Magni: "whoever you want to be"

What else would you say to a robot that just became free of its programing and edicts?

It feels like some people decided to turn off their cognitive thinking on purpose...

[Skytotem]

Is just cringy external-game affairs thrusted into the story and atmosphere.

What part of someone being able to choose what they want to be is offensive to you?

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Alleria isn't the best Archer, is she? I've just finished the Hallowfall storyline and she missed every single arrow she fired up to now.

They really need to stop worfing major lore characters to justify the player having something to do.

[Dragonborn]

Khadgar returning as an Ethereal sounds really dope, even for just a moment to help us one last time.

But man, the Dark Heart has quite a ridiculous amount of buildup for a MacGuffin that now I wish they've used the Xal'atath knife instead. Though, it does look like something that is begging to be placed in front of a light beam. I wonder if it'll be used in summoning the void through the Sunwell.

[Doffen]

I do like the story and the Arathi and Hallowfall is super interesting imo.

And, I think the Bronzebeards are doing great. Moira is booming. The cinematic was nice, too see the dwarves more close up than ever in a decent quality was good.

[infinitemeridian]

Hallowfall is...fine? Definitely the best new zone, but I don't think it holds a candle to Revendreth or any of the BFA zones.

[Raetary]

Khadgar returning as an Etheral would be quite an interesting turn of events.

[Makabreska]

Khadgar returning as an Etheral would be quite an interesting turn of events.

Is this even lore friendly? How Etherals came to be in the first place?

Man, I actually love the robotic way the Earthen speak.

[Lady Atia]

Khadgar returning as an Etheral would be quite an interesting turn of events.

Yeah, thought the same when his arm got turned purple lol.

[Khaza-R]

Is this even lore friendly? How Etherals came to be in the first place?

I guess that depends. Did they become ethereals simply because they were irradiated in high amounts of void and arcance energies or was there something innately unique to their species that acted like a catalyst for their transformation.

Personally I hope they don't go that direction. Ethereals are already pretty unique in WoW and don't need to be watered down further. If they get heavily featured in Midnight or TWW, hopefully their own K'areshi culture is the focus and not Khadgar inserting himself.

[Valysar]

The Theater Troupe event is 100% into beta mode, completely broken

[Alanar]

[SPOILER] Alleria isn't the best Archer, is she? I've just finished the Hallowfall storyline and she missed every single arrow she fired up to now. .

"Alleria is the greatest Archer, you dont know what your talking about" said some one in the dark..

There we have it! It must be that weird eye shadow that started to slide in her eye. Right?

[Raetary]

Is this even lore friendly? How Etherals came to be in the first place?

Dimensius tore reality around Ka'resh apart, opening portals to the TN and the Void.
Flooding the place with Arcane and Void energy.

The flood of Arcane energy shredded the Ethereals physical bodies but infused them with enough power to subsist without one.

But that's pre-chronicle lore, from the CDev days.
A flood of *Arcane* magic from the cosmological Fel energy realm makes little sense these days.

That said, i was thinking more in line of the Forge of the Guardian being responsible for that.
Or idk, Medivh finding out he died and went ahead to scoop up his soul from the eldritch goop and turn him into one.
Or maybe even Locus Walker being responsible.

[username993720]

While I agree that that line is quite cringe, I fail to see the link to the external-game affairs.

Really? -_-
Try harder.

What else would you say to a robot that just became free of its programing and edicts?

It feels like some people decided to turn off their cognitive thinking on purpose...

Like it doesn't allude to anything else....

What part of someone being able to choose what they want to be is offensive to you?

Offensive?
Tiring...

[Timester]

Like it doesn't allude to anything else....

Like what? Robots gaining independent thinking? Just like Data from Star Trek, for example? Are you new with sci-fi?


Please, do tell what alludes.

[username993720]

Like what? Robots gaining independent thinking? Just like Data from Star Trek, for example? Are you new with sci-fi?

She didn't ask what her purpose is. She asked "who am i?", which the answer to that is "Earthen". Not Furbolg, not Gnome, Earthen. It is quite simple.

[milkmustache]

Dimensius tore reality around Ka'resh apart, opening portals to the TN and the Void.
Flooding the place with Arcane and Void energy.

The flood of Arcane energy shredded the Ethereals physical bodies but infused them with enough power to subsist without one.

But that's pre-chronicle lore, from the CDev days.
A flood of *Arcane* magic from the cosmological Fel energy realm makes little sense these days.

That said, i was thinking more in line of the Forge of the Guardian being responsible for that.
Or idk, Medivh finding out he died and went ahead to scoop up his soul from the eldritch goop and turn him into one.
Or maybe even Locus Walker being responsible.

This is kind of an interesting point.

Xal nukes Dalaran, all the unstable arcane energy is absorbed by Khadgar because Guardian reasons or something, void nuke sends him to the Nether where he finds Medivh or Locus Walker or Karesh or insert here.

[Timester]

She didn't ask what her purpose is. She asked "what am i?", which the answer to that is "Earthen". Not Furbolg, not Gnome, Earthen. It is quite simple.

See the cinematic again. "What... Who am I?", a robot just became sentient after millenia of following one edict only.

And Earthen are so many things, as the entire expansion hammers over and over.