The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Shadowferal]

Not to be that guy but I don't think people of african descent are blue either.

Depends on how dark. My godfather was so dark he had a bluish tint to his skin, or so it seemed to me.

[huth]

Depends on how dark. My godfather was so dark he had a bluish tint to his skin, or so it seemed to me.

Bluish black and straight-up blue is a fairly significant difference though.

[Shadowferal]

Bluish black and straight-up blue is a fairly significant difference though.

A fair point.

[Ksgrip]

I said it before and you all laughed at me. Well, who's laughing now? Their relationship is pure sex. Absolutely electric! Alleria has never had such wild chemistry with her golden retriever. And this is 100% done intentionally by writers.

I told you Blizzard made Alleria LGBTQ-coded on purpose. I just hope they're fully committed to it and not just queerbaiting.

The brain rot is strong with you. I hope you get better some day

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Representation matters.

You literally chose a straight ass woman married and with a kid for your horse race I would call this delusional. But something tells me there are deeper issues going on here

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You are celebrating a character becoming LGBTQ coded through a relationship with another character who is in every respect presented as a corrupting influence? Yes, we need more 60s queer representation apparently.

Ofc Blizzard is hopefully not doing that. It's just you seeing corruption as sexuality and queerness because media has trained us to see that.

Bravo. It is such a toxic way of viewing things that the way it eludes some who are supposedly preaching to the choir simply don’t want to see. Their view of sexuality is toxic and it ends up tainting their very interpretation of what sexuality even is

[username993720]

The way they act. Not the way they look.
Native Americans are not blue, but the Na'vi in Avatar were still coded that way despite outward appearances.

The Na'vi in Avatar had dreadlocks and an african accent.

[Shadowferal]

The Na'vi in Avatar had dreadlocks and an african accent.

Specifically...to me, West coast (Côte d'Ivoire)

[Sondrelk]

I wonder what will happen when we learn more about the origins of the Earthen on Khaz Algar. The sidequests does state that there was a Titan Keeper assigned to them that seemingly very suddenly created two watchers and then disappeared to parts unknown.

[Cheezits]

I wonder what will happen when we learn more about the origins of the Earthen on Khaz Algar. The sidequests does state that there was a Titan Keeper assigned to them that seemingly very suddenly created two watchers and then disappeared to parts unknown.

Was Dornic the keeper or a watcher? You get a huge loredump on him through the Proscenium plays, though it is biased.

Also the reveal that Councilward Merrix a little shady but overall a good? guy is a nice touch. Vanilla vibes.

[Dancaris]

I played only 90% of Ringing Deeps and notice that aside of one or two mentions I haven't seen any samesex pairs. But normal, i mean hetero pair is all around. Fresh air from all that DF gay side quests.
Another bunch of quest about replacing male with female characters, but that was quite goody written to complain. And ofc trend about stupid and weak male characters and strong and clever females are continuing, but not like in ESO, where its like 5-6 times in every location.

On the side note - Dagran is little too good in everything. Too clever, too wise. He is a kid, he must behave like one. He is not Khadgar after all.

Quests are good, story is believable, zones are great. Music is awesome. What else do any fan want?

[Cheezits]

Quests are good, story is believable, zones are great. Music is awesome. What else do any fan want?

Seen a lot of comments on the music and I agree, can't remember the last time the entire music suite was this good. WoD?

[Sondrelk]

Was Dornic the keeper or a watcher? You get a huge loredump on him through the Proscenium plays, though it is biased.

Also the reveal that Councilward Merrix a little shady but overall a good? guy is a nice touch. Vanilla vibes.

Dornic and Galen are both Watchers. I have not seen the name of the Keeper yet. Maybe I should check the play. Been ignoring it seeing as it doesnt actually give anything.

Merrix is interesting, even if the questline feels a bit rushed in going straight from barely knowing him, to him having a secret identity. Maybe if there were more quests with him before then to get a grasp on whether he is usually this laid back, or if he puts up an act.
From what I recall we only interract with him once during the main questline.

[Cheezits]

Dornic and Galen are both Watchers. I have not seen the name of the Keeper yet. Maybe I should check the play. Been ignoring it seeing as it doesnt actually give anything.

Merrix is interesting, even if the questline feels a bit rushed in going straight from barely knowing him, to him having a secret identity. Maybe if there were more quests with him before then to get a grasp on whether he is usually this laid back, or if he puts up an act.
From what I recall we only interract with him once during the main questline.

If those are the watchers, I am fairly sure the keeper is Archaedas. Can't confirm as I haven't seen the play in a while but I think he gets namedropped.

[Darkarath]

Who got the idea of making a Skyriding Race in Dornogal? Got gold in all races but I cannot even achieve gold in the basic circuit. There is just too many players there I guess and the game lags badly. Well, I will get it when Midnight is live

BTW we are definitively getting a "Life" patch zone. Guess that the Harronir one. I have done all of the Isle of Dorn and a tiny part of the Ringing Deeps, but the theme of "Life" is consistent, and I bet that it will only increase as I keep questing through the rest of the expansion.

[Timester]

On the side note - Dagran is little too good in everything. Too clever, too wise. He is a kid, he must behave like one. He is not Khadgar after all.

He is being groomed to be the King of all Dwarves for 16 years now. Child monarchs tend to be like this, if anything he is more playful than expected.

[Sondrelk]

Man, Kobolds are great. Easily the best part of the Ringing Deeps.
I suppose there might have been the fear of oversaturation, but I never understood why the developers would create Niffen in Zaralek, rather than expand on the Kobolds. Everything about them is just gold.
Also, the Darkness is legitimately a freaky jumpscare in that dungeon, even if you know it's coming.

[Dancaris]

Man, Kobolds are great. Easily the best part of the Ringing Deeps.
I suppose there might have been the fear of oversaturation, but I never understood why the developers would create Niffen in Zaralek, rather than expand on the Kobolds. Everything about them is just gold.
Also, the Darkness is legitimately a freaky jumpscare in that dungeon, even if you know it's coming.

Yes, esp small one from bug fights. Easily best one from them. So sarcastic to stupid earthen from Fearbreaker sidequest.

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Who got the idea of making a Skyriding Race in Dornogal? Got gold in all races but I cannot even achieve gold in the basic circuit. There is just too many players there I guess and the game lags badly. Well, I will get it when Midnight is live

BTW we are definitively getting a "Life" patch zone. Guess that the Harronir one. I have done all of the Isle of Dorn and a tiny part of the Ringing Deeps, but the theme of "Life" is consistent, and I bet that it will only increase as I keep questing through the rest of the expansion.

Fog monsters too
They seem peaceful, teleport characters away, guarding their nest. And ofc questchain has open end - with remark that we don't know anything "for now". What is it as not cliffhanger for future patch content? And in a place close to Harronir in neighboring zone, right one mountain from it.

Also waterworks falls comes from above, with gameplay barrier shielding way to the top. I saw light from here, but not into the surface. So We should expect different zone entry in Ringing Deeps, Aj-Kahet and Hallowfall. And it located between Ringing Deeps and Isle of Dorn

[Cheezits]

Also waterworks falls comes from above, with gameplay barrier shielding way to the top. I saw light from here, but not into the surface. So We should expect different zone entry in Ringing Deeps, Aj-Kahet and Hallowfall. And it located between Ringing Deeps and Isle of Dorn

I think Kezan will open up next to Opportunity Point (or a portal to it) and Rootlands will open up somewhere on that western path between Hallowsfall and Azjkahet.

A big hint towards Kezan is that there is an dwarf elevator at Opportunity Point but, AFAIK, no way to open it yet.

[GratsDing45]

Really hope we do go to Kezan this expansion. It's an easy W from Blizzard since who doesn't love Goblins? Well, i'm sure there are people who don't like them but they are essential WoW and would make Horde players happy. I love Goblins. They are great counterpart to Dwarves.

I surprisingly enjoyed Ringing Deeps more than Hallowfall. The Dwarven aesthetic is so well done. The vibe, to the music and the kobolds... You really feel like you are underground in the earth with these ancient Earthen facilities. I'm sorry, I just can't take Faerin seriously. It just reminds me of something from a new Star Wars show in Disney.

[Dancaris]

I think Kezan will open up next to Opportunity Point (or a portal to it) and Rootlands will open up somewhere on that western path between Hallowsfall and Azjkahet.

A big hint towards Kezan is that there is an dwarf elevator at Opportunity Point but, AFAIK, no way to open it yet.

I hope that Kezan will not be another megadungeon with Rootlands 11.1 patch. Its high probability, assuming there is multiple ways on top all underground zones into some "Life" zone but for goblins like 1 Opportunity Point?

[Enrif]

Finished today the level up campaign, sitting at level 76 currently. I liked the story overall. It had a few weak or weird moments, but overall I liked it.

The story doesn’t really deal with the radiant song stuff yet. But I enjoyed the hallowfall part and I really think now that the radiant song is from the beledar. Will continue with the hallowfall side quests next time, but I think they will keep it for later. It was interesting that Anduin mentioned he would like to have Khadgar here to understand it. So there is my speculation that Khadgar will return with the Beledar arc, in whatever way that is.