The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

He is being groomed to be the King of all Dwarves for 16 years now. Child monarchs tend to be like this, if anything he is more playful than expected.

And he's very much not prepared for combat situations. Which is quite an issue given where he is.

[Eldryth]

BTW we are definitively getting a "Life" patch zone. Guess that the Harronir one. I have done all of the Isle of Dorn and a tiny part of the Ringing Deeps, but the theme of "Life" is consistent, and I bet that it will only increase as I keep questing through the rest of the expansion.

Fog monsters too
They seem peaceful, teleport characters away, guarding their nest. And ofc questchain has open end - with remark that we don't know anything "for now". What is it as not cliffhanger for future patch content? And in a place close to Harronir in neighboring zone, right one mountain from it.

There's also the Freysworn- a whole faction of Earthen Druids, probably closely tied to Freya (based on the name at least), that are just kind of there and barely acknowledged so far. And you can't check it in the live game until Earthen release, but iirc from beta the Heritage set names suggest that they have their own settlement that we haven't seen yet. IIRC there were colors for Dornogal, Gundargaz, and "Freywold".

Both they and the Harronir are too interesting to not follow up on.

[Lady Atia]

There's also the Freysworn- a whole faction of Earthen Druids, probably closely tied to Freya (based on the name at least), that are just kind of there and barely acknowledged so far. And you can't check it in the live game until Earthen release, but iirc from beta the Heritage set names suggest that they have their own settlement that we haven't seen yet. IIRC there were colors for Dornogal, Gundargaz, and "Freywold".

Both they and the Harronir are too interesting to not follow up on.

I could see them adding earthen druids alongside the harronir for the roots patch!

[Nightshade711]

I could see them adding earthen druids alongside the harronir for the roots patch!

I could see that, it would be very weird to me to not include Earthen Druids given the Freysworn exist. Their Druid forms could be interesting.

[Sondrelk]

There's also the Freysworn- a whole faction of Earthen Druids, probably closely tied to Freya (based on the name at least), that are just kind of there and barely acknowledged so far. And you can't check it in the live game until Earthen release, but iirc from beta the Heritage set names suggest that they have their own settlement that we haven't seen yet. IIRC there were colors for Dornogal, Gundargaz, and "Freywold".

Both they and the Harronir are too interesting to not follow up on.

There is the Frey-something town we visit at the start of levelling. And we are told what the Freysworn are, in that they were given a directive from Freya that predates the rest of the Khaz Algar Earthen directives.

[Eldryth]

There is the Frey-something town we visit at the start of levelling. And we are told what the Freysworn are, in that they were given a directive from Freya that predates the rest of the Khaz Algar Earthen directives.

Oh, that is Freywold. I have no idea how I missed that, must have forgotten the name entirely.

Still think they should be fleshed out more in general though. Freya was also involved in protecting the roots of Elun'ahir, so their directive could have something to do with that.

[Santandame]

Really hope we do go to Kezan this expansion. It's an easy W from Blizzard since who doesn't love Goblins? Well, i'm sure there are people who don't like them but they are essential WoW and would make Horde players happy. I love Goblins. They are great counterpart to Dwarves.

I surprisingly enjoyed Ringing Deeps more than Hallowfall. The Dwarven aesthetic is so well done. The vibe, to the music and the kobolds... You really feel like you are underground in the earth with these ancient Earthen facilities. I'm sorry, I just can't take Faerin seriously. It just reminds me of something from a new Star Wars show in Disney.

I too preferred The Ringing Deeps to Hallowfall. It’s a fantastic zone.

I went into this expansion expecting Hallowfall to be my clear favourite, and whilst it’s brilliant I actually much prefer The Ringing Deeps and the Isle of Dorn; two zones I didn’t think I’d care for.

The Ringing Deeps is one of the best zones in the entire game in my opinion and Dornogal is possibly the best expansion capital added. It’s up there with Boralus.

[Mekkle]

I too preferred The Ringing Deeps to Hallowfall. It’s a fantastic zone.

I went into this expansion expecting Hallowfall to be my clear favourite, and whilst it’s brilliant I actually much prefer The Ringing Deeps and the Isle of Dorn; two zones I didn’t think I’d care for.

The Ringing Deeps is one of the best zones in the entire game in my opinion and Dornogal is possibly the best expansion capital added. It’s up there with Boralus.

Getting amazing Dwarven/Earthen architecture is such a nice treat from the standard human and elf stuff. Gonna really miss it once Midnight comes along.

[Skytotem]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/pc-game...ve-done-346086
"We should have listened to players more" well, better late than never


I'm also seeing speculation float around that DagranII is going to be the tinker class lead in alongside Gazlowe and the Machine Speaker lady since Dagran shared animations with her.



I also predict personally that the Harronir are gonna have something to do with Shadra, Hireek, and Voljin... As well as possibly Denathrius's return

[Joshuaj]

She didn't ask what her purpose is. She asked "who am i?", which the answer to that is "Earthen". Not Furbolg, not Gnome, Earthen. It is quite simple.

She is an Earthern, yes. But that alone doesn't define who she is as a person. Not to sound rude, but did you fall asleep throughout the last couple of expacs or? Cause they had the exact same message.

[huth]

I also predict personally that the Harronir are gonna have something to do with Shadra, Hireek, and Voljin... As well as possibly Denathrius's return

What annoys me is that they have 0 reaction to a Druid showing up. That should at least get a momentary startle.

[Teriz]

I'm also seeing speculation float around that DagranII is going to be the tinker class lead in alongside Gazlowe and the Machine Speaker lady since Dagran shared animations with her.

If that speculation is to be believed, when would the class be released? In 11.1?

[Merryck]

How is my Lightforged Paladin not being worshiped by these Arathi, not even an acknowledgment that I'm a paladin.

[Steampunkette]

Flip the Genedar upside down, fill it with the Light (and Shadow, alternately) and compare it to Beledar.



Make particular note of the cracks in the roof and the 'Crop Circles' around the Genedar/Oshugun.

Definitely feeling my "Beledar is a Naaru Ship" prediction. Possibly even from alternate Draenor, still.

After all... Radiant Song is a great description of how Naaru communicate.

[Joshuaj]

Flip the Genedar upside down, fill it with the Light (and Shadow, alternately) and compare it to Beledar.



Make particular note of the cracks in the roof and the 'Crop Circles' around the Genedar/Oshugun.

Definitely feeling my "Beledar is a Naaru Ship" prediction. Possibly even from alternate Draenor, still.

After all... Radiant Song is a great description of how Naaru communicate.

Wouldn't be shocked if this crystal worked similarly to the dimensional ships or the Naaru, yeah (Hell, it literally has a Light and Shadow cycle). I don't know about it being a dimensional ship in of itself however.

[Steampunkette]

Wouldn't be shocked if this crystal worked similarly to the dimensional ships or the Naaru, yeah (Hell, it literally has a Light and Shadow cycle). I don't know about it being a dimensional ship in of itself however.

My previous theory was that the Beledar comes from Alter-Draenor. The Lightbound and Yrel with K'ara as the pilot. After all, K'ara was the Dark Star and voided-out on Draenor (both Draenors) but was saved in Alter-Draenor when Velen sacrificed himself to purify her in the light.

My thought is she puts together the Lightbound to be an "Army of the Light" after the Legion and Iron Horde are both defeated, conquers Draenor by forcibly lightforging folks (like we learn about in the Mag'har Allied Race quests) and then works to get the Beledar up and running with Yrel and Exarch Hellscream.

They head out into the Great Dark Beyond and slap the Dimensional Warp Drive to escape their pocket-reality and come to Azeroth to try and Lightbind us. But the Beledar crashes into the ceiling of this cave, and due to the vagaries of interdimensional time-travel gets brought to the Past. (From our perspective)

Sargeras stabs the planet causing the Black Blood of the Old Gods to start dripping down and it corrupts K'ara, again. Someone volunteers as sacrifice. She's saved. The blood keeps dripping. She corrupts. Someone else volunteers. On and on and on and the Beledar starts running out of crew to "Sacrifice".

Eventually K'ara uses the Beledar's communication framework to try and reach out to beg for help from anyone... The Radiant Song. After all: Naaru sing to communicate and sound like bells. Sort of like how the Foreman of Taelloch mentions hearing bells...

Meanwhile the superstitious Arathi trapped in Hallowfall don't know what it means or how to fix it. It's just a thing that happens, now, at random intervals, and started with the enstabbening of Azeroth.

And remember: They got a directive to come deal with Renilash on behalf of the Arathi Empire because the Emperor saw a vision of a "Falling Star" and the final war between Light and Shadow. And the Genedar certainly -looked- like a falling star to the Orcs, too. And remember how in Legion there was a Fallen Star and it was the core of a Naaru?

[Cheezits]

I am 200% down with "Yrel and Light Garrosh are in Beledar" because it would be the best WoW reveal of all time.

[Merryck]

I'm glad you people don't write the story of WoW.

[Varodoc]

This expansion is Absolute Cinema from a visual/scenery standpoint. That sequence of Dalaran exploding has got to be the best-animated sequence in any Warcraft pre-rendered cinematic, Yes?



Absolute Cinema.

But do you know what makes Me even more hyped than to see the continuation of TWW? Midnight.

Oh, Oh I can hardly wait to see how hard Blizzard will go with the Void's invasion of Silvermoon. If I were you, I'd be spending some time in that city, even though it's useless. You know, just for old time's sake. Silvermoon might be running on borrowed time, and there's no city as explosive as a magical city.

[Raetary]

So now finished the Azj Kahet storyline:
Alleria finally managed to hit some one shot drones only to miss an arrow at Xal AGAIN...

Just finished it myself, but i find complaining about that cutscene pretty silly.

I get Blizzard likes to make their characters really incompetent to justify continuing the plot, but in this particular case Xal deliberately baited her into shooting to reveal herself.

And she didn't even miss, the arrow went through Xals void mist, she just teleported away.