The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Santandame]

I think the color scheme needs more of a blend. Orange, purple, gray, brown...demand to be represented!

We have purple with the Twilight Dragonflight. I’m surprised we haven’t seen an orange flight though.

[Berkilak]

Which flight do you see reforming?

The most likely flight I see joining, if we were to get one, would be the elemental/primal dragons that could end up defecting to our side with Vyranoth leading them.

I suppose the various elemental dragons together could constitute a metallic flight?

My original thought was that each chromatic flight would be born anew. Now I'm leaning toward, as you say, Vyranoth leading the remnants of the primalists in a reorigination using that silver scale.

It has always seemed odd to me that Blizzard has never utilized the metallic dragon trope (bronze not actually being truly bronze). If they're going to do it, this is pretty much their only opportunity. If I am not mistaken, the Aspects still have not received their Aspectral powers again. I would presume that this event is accompanied by some sort of metallic dragonflight being introduced alongside.

[guro-tchai]

I suppose the various elemental dragons together could constitute a metallic flight?

gold? iirc when aspects poured all their juice into the Dragon Soul held by Thrall (or is it called demon soul?), it formed a golden slitherdrake, which was later sold as Heart of the Aspects in the shop.
ig the primals could consitute a free flight. same option for stormdrakes/twilights/infinites?

btw, there was an interview, in which Ion said that there won't be twilights in DF. could be a lie, considering that "there's no old gods in BfA", but could as easily be true.
a missed opportunity, considering that
a) there's a shitton of twilight eggs under grim batol
b) said eggs result from Alex's rape
c) twilights are free after N'zoth's fall - or at least some of them. compare the Ny'alotha AotC mount
d) she called them "no longer my children" in DS, before Ultraxion. understandably contradicts her values
e) these children are hated by everyone for what they are.
overcoming trauma and reconciliation story writes itself

[Raetary]

Even if Vyranoth ends up moving away from Iridikron, why would she suddenly do a full 180 and embrace the titans magic to form another aspectral flight?

If anything she would simply become neutral, or form a purely political 'primal' flight.

[Auxis]

Even if Vyranoth ends up moving away from Iridikron, why would she suddenly do a full 180 and embrace the titans magic to form another aspectral flight?

If anything she would simply become neutral, or form a purely political 'primal' flight.

I've always thought that Vyranoth could separate from the Primalists and take willing protodrakes under her wings; and the Aspects letting her have a seat at Valdrakken, effectively giving the protodrakes a voice in dragon matters. We've already seen issues of political unrest in Valdrakken with the drakkonid uprising and subsequent quelling with Alexstrasza understanding their concerns and giving them voices.

I noticed Vyranoth seemed particularly affected by Raszageth's death in the 10.0.5 cinematic (where the Incarnates get Aberrus' location-disc-thing). Can definitely see her just want to avoid any more deaths altogether. Will have to see her characterization in the upcoming novel. End of October, should just slip in before or during 10.2 by rights, yeah?

[Berkilak]

Even if Vyranoth ends up moving away from Iridikron, why would she suddenly do a full 180 and embrace the titans magic to form another aspectral flight?

If anything she would simply become neutral, or form a purely political 'primal' flight.

That silver scale just reads as a Chekhov's gun to me. If you introduce a silver dragon scale, it opens the door to there being silver dragon introduced later on. And complete 180 is how Blizzard writes characters. Rarely do their opinions move in increments. Their idea of character development (if a character develops at all) is often the near-complete reinvention of the character after an inciting incident.

[huth]

That silver scale just reads as a Chekhov's gun to me. If you introduce a silver dragon scale, it opens the door to there being silver dragon introduced later on. And complete 180 is how Blizzard writes characters. Rarely do their opinions move in increments. Their idea of character development (if a character develops at all) is often the near-complete reinvention of the character after an inciting incident.

It doesn't really hit the marks for that trope. It's far to important right out the gate and gets too much attention over the course of the story involving it.

McGuffin fits better for the way its used, and any connection to a Silver flight is unlikely.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I doubt or never considered a silver Dragonflight anyways. Silver scale...silver hand yeah thats the connection(Its related to Tyr).

[huth]

I doubt or never considered a silver Dragonflight anyways. Silver scale...silver hand yeah thats the connection(Its related to Tyr).

I mean, we pretty much already learned it's purpose. It was a failsafe for Tyr, containing access codes for Tyrhold and the blueprint for his body.

[Raetary]

I really like how the post raid questline actually makes use of the raid and lets you explore it.

[Mecheon]

Completely wild speculation on the scale, but, with Vyranoth being the incarnate most likely to join our side, could be tied there. They offered to make her aspect of a silver flight but she turned it down or similar, or she'll be wounded in Indrikron's inevitable takedown of Fryak once he inevitably goes crazy and decide to jump ship, and we'll use it to heal her or something

I dunno. Just throwing ideas out there

[cocomen2]

I think if they are removing stuff like that we should remove the culling dungeon also. Killing innocent woman man an children is fucked up. I understand the thought process but i don’t want to take part in killing a bunch of innocent people

Man-up snowflake it's A GAME, you can do it or not to do it, but mind you each day kids killing millions of innocent "NPC" people in Fortnite or any other game, and yet games doing it left and right, care about REAL WORLD more or soon enough you gonna be out of clean water and all animals dead, while you protected innocent NPC.

[Ateo]

Jesus christ.... what has this game turned into...
Please tell me this is a troll.

The softening of an entire generation didn't stay in reality, it also extended into fiction. God forbid there be any form of mature content or dark writing. Its really sad that everything must hit a certain PC level to be acceptable writing these days.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

The softening of an entire generation didn't stay in reality, it also extended into fiction. God forbid there be any form of mature content or dark writing. Its really sad that everything must hit a certain PC level to be acceptable writing these days.

The quest was in poor taste, get the heck over it. Nothing to do with "the softening of a generation"

[Khaza-R]

The softening of an entire generation didn't stay in reality, it also extended into fiction. God forbid there be any form of mature content or dark writing. Its really sad that everything must hit a certain PC level to be acceptable writing these days.

Eh. Personally I am a fan of darker content. I don't believe there are themes too taboo to explore in media. However with that said, you still need to give these darker themes the proper gravity to show them respect and how they impact real life individuals. Otherwise its just cheap and gratuitous. WoW already does an awful job with this as every level. Tackling rape is just so far out of scope from them.

[Skytotem]

The softening of an entire generation didn't stay in reality, it also extended into fiction. God forbid there be any form of mature content or dark writing. Its really sad that everything must hit a certain PC level to be acceptable writing these days.

I don't think anyone is saying "X content shouldn't exist at all" it's that we want it handled with the gravity and skill it needs... And Blizz ain't got it.

[Revamp Man]

silver dragonflight is 100% fully order magic empowered
straight up kaylon race

[Jekyll]

I'm still anticipating the creation of a new flight, if not a "reoriginating" of one or more existing flights into a new one. A metallic dragonflight, specifically. Likely silver.

I agree, either silver or another non-metallic colour like Violet. But Silver is a strong candidate and it can relate to the infinite, Tyr and the yet unavailable white drakes.

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silver dragonflight is 100% fully order magic empowered
straight up kaylon race

I honestly hope the Infinite is the silver dragon flight and for them to join the accord because Bronze feels a bit restrictive in maintaining the timeline.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I honestly hope the Infinite is the silver dragon flight and for them to join the accord because Bronze feels a bit restrictive in maintaining the timeline.

The main issue is that their worldviews are wholly irreconcilable: the Bronze Dragonflight are focused on the preservation of the timeways over all else, whereas the Infinite Dragonflight are absolutely willing to distort the proper flow of time to prevent the travesties that occur along the way. It's difficult to imagine them putting aside what is presumably a very, very long parachronological period of violent conflict between the two, or to have the Bronze Dragonflight compromise on their charge at the urging of their hated enemies. What could possibly serve as a sensible and realistic catalyst for a mending of tensions between them? I could see some value in the Infinite Dragonflight somehow being vindicated and for us to start questioning whose side we really ought to take,—at least partially, such as by having the validity of the prime timeline put into question as anything more than the preferred course of events for the Titans in particular,—but there doesn't seem to be much incentive for the two Dragonflights to abruptly discard the doubtlessly-extraordinary hatred between them.

[Revamp Man]

I agree, either silver or another non-metallic colour like Violet. But Silver is a strong candidate and it can relate to the infinite, Tyr and the yet unavailable white drakes.

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I honestly hope the Infinite is the silver dragon flight and for them to join the accord because Bronze feels a bit restrictive in maintaining the timeline.

i mean the dragonflights are essentially beings of order so the infinite would not be welcome