The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Merryck]

So ... what's your favourite delves? I have barely done any, but I really like the Sinkhole.

[huth]

So ... what's your favourite delves? I have barely done any, but I really like the Sinkhole.

I like the underwater ones. Then again, as a druid i don't particularly care about the drowning risks.

Right now i'm abstaining to not sour them for once S1 begins.

[Nymrohd]

I hit 15 with Brann and stopped doing any delves. Many delves in my future after all.

[Telogrus]

Ever since Shadowlands, I've been confused about the Emerald Dream's placement in the cosmology. When Chronicle first dropped, the Shadowlands was portrayed as being the opposite of the Emerald Dream. Obviously the Shadowlands and Emerald Dream were inspired by the Shadowfell and Feywild from DnD. However, SL revealed that the Shadowlands were the realm of Dream and the Gardens of Life are (presumably) the Realm of Life. We also learned that Elune is the sister of the Winter Queen, which would make you think that the Emerald Dream is the Life counterpart to Ardenweald. However, in Dragonflight, the Emerald Dream and the Life Realm were spoken of as if they're two distinct realms. So is the Emerald Dream just one of many subdomains in the Life realm like Ardenweald is one of many subdomains in the Shadowlands, or is it its own distinct plane of existence?

[Cheezits]

Ever since Shadowlands, I've been confused about the Emerald Dream's placement in the cosmology. When Chronicle first dropped, the Shadowlands was portrayed as being the opposite of the Emerald Dream. Obviously the Shadowlands and Emerald Dream were inspired by the Shadowfell and Feywild from DnD. However, SL revealed that the Shadowlands were the realm of Dream and the Gardens of Life are (presumably) the Realm of Life. We also learned that Elune is the sister of the Winter Queen, which would make you think that the Emerald Dream is the Life counterpart to Ardenweald. However, in Dragonflight, the Emerald Dream and the Life Realm were spoken of as if they're two distinct realms. So is the Emerald Dream just one of many subdomains in the Life realm like Ardenweald is one of many subdomains in the Shadowlands, or is it its own distinct plane of existence?

While it's not confirmed, there is enough in SL and DF to imply that the Titans pinched off a section of the Life realm to create the Dream and enforce Order on it. One of the Dream books mentions that if a dragon flies far enough into the dream he starts seeing weird stuff and otherworldy beings before being teleported out.

The tree robot from the raid, Nymue, was created by Freya to Order the Dream. Meaning it wasn't built like that to begin with. However we don't know if the Titans just stole the area or worked with Elune to create it.

[Holdodlig]

I don't love the idea of mixing a potential Goblin and Rootlands patch (unless we were to get both Rootlands and Undermine as zones), but the questline at Opportunity Point lays some ground work for the intermingling of the themes.

It's quite literally Goblins taking over an Earthen depot, using the hot springs as a "resort", having you disperse an uprooted mole community, then kill a deepstrider who's ghost haunts them, forcing you to rid of it's skull, where it revives after entangling you with roots. I mean, the questline ends with the main goblin at the resort saying "Huh, I guess that makes me appreciate the beauty in nature!".

The deepstrider part seemed to be an easter egg to Princess Mononoke with all the head thingy where the strider wants to get back his head, all the gooey thing and the fact it is reborn at the end of the quest.

[CasualFilth]

So ... what's your favourite delves? I have barely done any, but I really like the Sinkhole.

All the underwater ones, all the nerubian ones, that airship one in Hallowfall. The rest do my head in...

[Jolly Roger]

Important reminder that that book is literally just a copy of a book from Vanilla with added comments, which was literally just copied straight from the WC3 manual.

I wouldn't bet anything on that still being lore-accurate.

dude the in game book introduced in DF is likely still lore accurate lol

[Al Gorefiend]

Like I said, the issue is that it doesn't look like hunter. Class skin? Alright, but forcing people into this ugly shit sucks. At least for mage it still feels like mage by combining their specs. Pack leader is a better example of how to do it, altho you'd expect to see an actual PACK of beasts instead of some passives.

The owl/night elf theme is equally as weird. Hunter hero talent visuals/themes are just a big fail.
Also no one ever asked for dark ranger FOR HUNTER.

People asked for a separate class.

We don't need another class entirely devoted to being an edgy elf. This is the change that pisses off both parties equally.
or they're already going with an Alleria class and having both Dark Ranger and UndefinedAlleriaClass wouldn't work.

[milkmustache]

I'm still curious to see if anyone has any thoughts on this:

Are the Freysworn aware of or influenced by the Haranir and their duties? Will we see some information on these "Woldclaimed Freysworn" non-interactable NPCs around the Isle of Dorn?

[Mecheon]

I'm interested in the Season 1 and 4 Monk LFR set ... so I guess I'm going to have to wait.

Season 1 LFR is the set with a gap unfortunately. Normal and Heroic are easy enough to get from storms (which even helps as you can just do them on a higher alt and send the items around to alts), but LFR is lacking

I've looked around for items that could be catalysed into it but haven't found any unfortunately

[Eldryth]

Season 1 LFR is the set with a gap unfortunately. Normal and Heroic are easy enough to get from storms (which even helps as you can just do them on a higher alt and send the items around to alts), but LFR is lacking

I've looked around for items that could be catalysed into it but haven't found any unfortunately

It was really easy for the classes that voted for Season 1 appearances (including Monk) during the Awakened season, especially at the very end when you could convert stuff from the pre-launch event into LFR gear. I got the full Monk LFR set from that myself. But I'm pretty sure it's too late for that now.

[OCoyne]

I'm still curious to see if anyone has any thoughts on this:

Are the Freysworn aware of or influenced by the Haranir and their duties? Will we see some information on these "Woldclaimed Freysworn" non-interactable NPCs around the Isle of Dorn?

It's a good question and the answer is yes they are. The Druid attire they're wearing is a clue they've been in contact with Orwenya, in early stages of Beta they were using Druid magic but Blizzard didn't want to give the community any hints of Earthern Druids so they changed the animation to Shaman magic.

Some of the NPC's in Dornogal if you interact with them, more specifically the Arborists tell you they're practicing a magic that other Earthern don't agree with is another clue - An Arborist in real life is a bit like a GP doctor for Trees which is highly convenient

So story-wise, they're aspiring to use Druid Nature magic, but visually it's Shaman nature magic as Blizzard didn't want to give any false hopes of Earthern Druids

[Ersula]

I'm still curious to see if anyone has any thoughts on this:

Are the Freysworn aware of or influenced by the Haranir and their duties? Will we see some information on these "Woldclaimed Freysworn" non-interactable NPCs around the Isle of Dorn?

Worldclaimed Earthen are dead Earthen, like in the Monument quest.

[OCoyne]

Worldclaimed Earthen are dead Earthen, like in the Monument quest.

He didn't say Worldclaimed, he said Woldclaimed
A wold is a English term for a steep hill or can be latin for Forest. Another coincidence.

You'll find them everywhere in Dornogal or Isle of Dorn roaming on their own so they're definitely not dead. They're doing what I said.

[Raetary]

You'll find them everywhere in Dornogal or Isle of Dorn roaming on their own so they're definitely not dead. They're doing what I said.

No, they are most definitely dead.

None of the active Freysworn are titled "Woldclaimed", that's exclusive to the various non-interactable Freysworn that you can see sit in random overgrown spots across Dorne.

[milkmustache]

He didn't say Worldclaimed, he said Woldclaimed
A wold is a English term for a steep hill or can be latin for Forest. Another coincidence.

You'll find them everywhere in Dornogal or Isle of Dorn roaming on their own so they're definitely not dead. They're doing what I said.

All of the Woldclaimed are certainly dead, but I think we'll hear more about them in a potential Haranir patch.

[Nymrohd]

Dead or simply inactive? maybe they can be reactivated?

[deviantcultist]

they're already going with an Alleria class and having both Dark Ranger and UndefinedAlleriaClass wouldn't work.

I hope you are right because at this point it feels like a joke having to pretend that "shadowpriest the void class" while Alleria is showing off "not playable" things to us.

[Auxis]

Anyone experiencing some micro-stuttering in Delves? I started getting it last week, literally the only place it happens is in every Delve I have tried so far - every moving model (NPCS, my character, objects with animations (like the steam pumps in Waterworks) has a slight stutter in its movement after a certain distance. It's not an FPS drop from what I can tell, it's a consistent micro-pause in the models' movements.

It's not game-breaking, but it's near-distracting when trying to do Delves.