The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Do you guys think they will announce 10.1.5 release date this week?

[Makorus]

Do you guys think they will announce 10.1.5 release date this week?

Don't think so.

It's not close to done yet according to the Evoker Class Designer interview (He said they will slowly introduce the new combat log hooks over the next few PTR Updates), and we didn't get any Rogue changes yet.

[Scyth]

Do you guys think they will announce 10.1.5 release date this week?

I sincerely hope so! Hopefully it comes out in early July.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Don't think so.

It's not close to done yet according to the Evoker Class Designer interview (He said they will slowly introduce the new combat log hooks over the next few PTR Updates), and we didn't get any Rogue changes yet.

I didn't know about that, thanks.

Few more PTR updates i guess points at maybe beginning of july, release date announcement.

[Makorus]

I didn't know about that, thanks.

Few more PTR updates i guess points at maybe beginning of july, release date announcement.

I would say middle of July, yeah. I suppose we will see based on what the next PTR Update is like.

[huth]

(From 2020, likely outdated)

The first one is already completely off the mark. This isn't outdated, it's as made up as "the list".

[AOL Instant Messenger]

You know, I wonder if the situation in Ulduar has a connection to the situation in Khaz Algar. From what we know, there was a strain of something analogous to the Curse of Flesh there but which evidently either caused a vastly different transformation, or none at all. Is it possible that the strain in Khaz Algar was exported to Ulduar after the Curse of Flesh weakened the defenses there? It could explain some oddities, like how Loken, an artificial being, was evidently having a presumably-carnal affair with Sif. It's presumably just that the Titan Watchers typically imitate the behaviors of biological beings or the Titans, as Odyn also had an adopted daughter in addition to Thorim and Loken serving as somehow more literal sons in some capacity, but I am still inclined to wonder if there is some more insidious variant of the Curse of Flesh spreading around and afflicting Titan constructs with susceptibility to the Void while leaving them physiologically unchanged.

[Lolites]

The quest was in poor taste, get the heck over it. Nothing to do with "the softening of a generation"

the one with Alex? yeah, though i dont mind it i can get behind it was in poor taste, but the one with Amber or with gladiators/slaves?
nope, normal q, not nearly as bad as some old quests

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Still i will choose getting hd gorehowl over diablo season.

i might miss it, but do we know already where is gorehowl from and if it indeed is from dung if it can drop both ali and horde?

[Makorus]

the one with Alex? yeah, though i dont mind it i can get behind it was in poor taste, but the one with Amber or with gladiators/slaves?
nope, normal q, not nearly as bad as some old quests

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i might miss it, but do we know already where is gorehowl from and if it indeed is from dung if it can drop both ali and horde?

The one with Alexstrasza was all around unnecessary, and it's a good thing it's a gone. Adult themes are fine if they are handled in an adult way.

I don't see the problem with the Amber or the Gladiators/Slaves one.

The worst thing you can say about the Amber one is the fact that they are highlighting how they kinda just completely threw away an interesting character for an idiotic reason that didn't really have much of an impact.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

i might miss it, but do we know already where is gorehowl from and if it indeed is from dung if it can drop both ali and horde?

hopefully this weeks update will have some more info on that.

Should be dropping for alliance and horde, finding simple group tends to be time consuming now, but specifically looking for alliance groups as horde would be even more time consuming.

Unless they plan it for something else than dungeon drop.

[Santandame]

Any other thoughts on what 10.3 will be?

I’m pretty dead set on it being Red flight focused, going against Tyr and Odyn, with a heavy titan focused raid in the depths of Uldorus. Possibly even bringing Vyranoth and the primal proto drakes over in the fold to help Alex against the titan constructs.

I’m open to hearing others theories about what they’ll think it’ll be though if they think otherwise.

Still predicting Uldorus as the final raid with the following as bosses:

- Odyn
- Tyr
- Ironaya & Archaedas duo fight
- Chromatus
- A new race showing off the heretics that live on Avaloren
- An Aspect council fight similar to the Eternal Ones council fight from Sepulcher in SL. Not the actual Aspects though, maybe titan construct versions of them in their visage forms.
- Some sort of giant Arcane/Order elemental.
- Some Stormforged Vrykul general.

Amongst others of course. Possibly a C’Thraxxi.

[Darkarath]

Any other thoughts on what 10.3 will be?

I’m pretty dead set on it being Red flight focused, going against Tyr and Odyn, with a heavy titan focused raid in the depths of Uldorus. Possibly even bringing Vyranoth and the primal proto drakes over in the fold to help Alex against the titan constructs.

I’m open to hearing others theories about what they’ll think it’ll be though if they think otherwise.

Still predicting Uldorus as the final raid with the following as bosses:

- Odyn
- Tyr
- Ironaya & Archaedas duo fight
- Chromatus
- A new race showing off the heretics that live on Avaloren
- An Aspect council fight similar to the Eternal Ones council fight from Sepulcher in SL. Not the actual Aspects though, maybe titan construct versions of them in their visage forms.
- Some sort of giant Arcane/Order elemental.
- Some Stormforged Vrykul general.

Amongst others of course. Possibly a C’Thraxxi.

I think that they will keep the Watchers for another expansion. Plenty of Dragons to kill in this one yet.

I also highly doubt that Vyranoth would betray her kin, especially after Raszageth's death. She probably hates the Aspects more than ever before.

[Ateo]

What's that about? Videogames are an escape from reality. You should be able to be, do and see things impossible or taboo in real life. That's the whole point. Fulfilling a fantasy. I don't play a game to be reminded of reality. I've got that 24\7.

You're playing a game that used to heavily insinuate in it's manual that orcs captured and raped female species.

This entire franchise is a spin off of Warhammer. If you can't handle mature/dark themes then leave. Stop pretending this isn't a game with very real dark shit that happens in its lore. War has consequences, some of those being deemed atrocities. This is called good writing. This is the entire basis of the warcraft franchise.

Pillaging, civilian murder, conquest, slavery, brutality.

We are literally running around butchering people/animals with giant cleavers with blood animations and light gore everywhere.

Stop begging for a gutted version of this game, if you don't enjoy these themes you're simply in the wrong place.

[Shadowferal]

Stop begging for a gutted version of this game, if you don't enjoy these themes you're simply in the wrong place.

It's not about the themes. It's all about presentation. They shouldn't be written so poorly or childishly.

[Ateo]

It's not about the themes. It's all about presentation. They shouldn't be written so poorly or childishly.

What should they do then? Act as if this game is real life and write a 24 page in game chat dialogue essay on the consequences of these actions? You're playing a game it has limited time for exposition. Grow up and learn to handle this shit better.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

What should they do then? Act as if this game is real life and write a 24 page in game chat dialogue essay on the consequences of these actions? You're playing a game it has limited time for exposition. Grow up and learn to handle this shit better.

They shouldn’t touch topics they don’t have the skill or will to Handle properly just like the sleaze bags who originally put said topics into the setting shouldn’t have touched it while they or there work mates were playing pretend at the same things in the offices.

[Ateo]

They shouldn’t touch topics they don’t have the skill or will to Handle properly just like the sleaze bags who originally put said topics into the setting shouldn’t have touched it while they or there work mates were playing pretend at the same things in the offices.

You want censorship. Got it. You personally cant handle these themes therefore others writing is subpar.

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They shouldn’t touch topics they don’t have the skill or will to Handle properly just like the sleaze bags who originally put said topics into the setting shouldn’t have touched it while they or there work mates were playing pretend at the same things in the offices.

FYI when those themes were being originally written it was a company with like 10 members all being male. None of the drama from the past few years existed.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

You want censorship. Got it. You personally cant handle these themes therefore others writing is subpar.

sure if that’s what you want to call it then in all for censoring shitty writers or people who don’t have the skill or will to do theses topics Justice.

FYI when those themes were being originally written it was a company with like 10 members all being male. None of the drama from the past few years existed.

Warcraft 1 had over 70 people work on it, WC2 had over 200 WC3 had over 400, wow had over 700, and the first woman at blizzard worked there atlest before WC1 launched according to an old blizzard founding documentary.

The “10 guys in there basement” thing has never been any thing more then a myth.

[Ateo]

sure if that’s what you want to call it then in all for censoring shitty writers or people who don’t have the skill or will to do theses topics Justice.

Warcraft 1 had over 70 people work on it, WC2 had over 200 WC3 had over 400, wow had over 700, and the first woman at blizzard worked there atlest before WC1 launched according to an old blizzard founding documentary.

The “10 guys in there basement” thing has never been any thing more then a myth.

Heres warcraft 1 credits.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/565...-humans/credit

The men I'm talking about.

Also, I do not care to discuss the IRL issues blizzard faced they aren't my problem nor place to discuss. We are discussing in game lore and writing in a fictional setting not the writers nor your personal bias.

[Raetary]

Any other thoughts on what 10.3 will be?

I think people are overextrapolating from the recent Titan propaganda thing.

While those themes are gonna pop up more and be woven into future stories, i see 10.3 to be the final showdown with us against the Incarnates.
With Iridikron as the final boss, unleashing his hunger and trying to rid Azeroth of Titan influence via his Dragon Soul 2.0.

With Fyrakk surviving, Vyranoth seemingly getting more humanized and Iridikron having yet to be dealt with, i don't see how the expansion could end any other way.

The only thing that's unclear is the location.
It could be set anywhere.

Khaz Algar, Avaloren, bringing back the Elemental Planes, a brand new unnamed location, etc.