The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Auxis]

I did the Dornagal race yesterday for a WQ. Good lord, what a horrid place to put a skyriding race; a capital city with terrible FPS for a significant vocal percentage of the player base (based on the amount of threads I've seen on the official forums and reddit), when you need the game to be responsive to hit the rings.

Did they have a race in Valdrakken? I remember doing races in Thaldrazus that took me past the outskirts of Valdrakken, but don't remember any actually set inside Valdrakken.

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By the way...

Odyn received a report that Earthen in Sector AR-938 had started acting weird around a strange fissure/anomaly, but was it the worldsoul, the Beledar, the roots of Elun'Ahir, or the Old God depicted in the mural that was the anomaly?

AFAIK we don't know that yet. All we know is that whatever the anomaly is caused them to develop behaviours, language, and demeanors similar to dwaves. I think the best bet would be an Old God/whatever was in the mural - the Curse of Flesh caused the main Earthen to develop into the dwarves that we know today, wouldn't be out of the question that a shadow/void entity might cause a similar evolution without straight up fleshifying them.

[Jaggler]

I did the Dornagal race yesterday for a WQ. Good lord, what a horrid place to put a skyriding race; a capital city with terrible FPS for a significant vocal percentage of the player base (based on the amount of threads I've seen on the official forums and reddit), when you need the game to be responsive to hit the rings.

Did they have a race in Valdrakken? I remember doing races in Thaldrazus that took me past the outskirts of Valdrakken, but don't remember any actually set inside Valdrakken.

Nah, no race in Valdrakken. I think the closest to Valdrakken was the race around the "spa area" close to the capital.

[Black Rider]

Any ideas for 11.0.7 patch?

[Joshuaj]

New island is obviously the top part of beledar. Could be entrance to mecha dungeon. Might be a forbidden reach typed zone for 0.7? could also be a pathway from surface down into hallowfall. Not sure if they are doing a megadungeon in 0.7, but might have a closed door that opens later or something.

I want the Mechadungeon to be Undermine ngl

[Sondrelk]

Any ideas for 11.0.7 patch?

I could see us going to whatever island is seemingly above the Beledar.
We won't go inside the crystal or anything, but instead build up to Undermine or what have you in 11.1.

Alternatively I could see us going to the Rootlands or the Goblin area east of the Ringing Deeps as those seemed to have been designed already.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Any ideas for 11.0.7 patch?

Undermine mega-dungeon, showing that Gallywix has a brand new cartel of goblins he's been using to take full control over the city.

I would push for the narrative being the Undermine being built over (or under) a titan facility, or around some sort of titan technology, that Gallywix has been trying to utilize and create weapons of some sort... leading to the introduction of playable Tinkers down the road. The Tinker suits, of course, being titan technology.

[Sondrelk]

Undermine mega-dungeon, showing that Gallywix has a brand new cartel of goblins he's been using to take full control over the city.

I would push for the narrative being the Undermine being built over (or under) a titan facility, or around some sort of titan technology, that Gallywix has been trying to utilize and create weapons of some sort... leading to the introduction of playable Tinkers down the road. The Tinker suits, of course, being titan technology.

Feels far too early for a Megadungeon. You need that for the lull between 11.1 and 11.2.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Feels far too early for a Megadungeon. You need that for the lull between 11.1 and 11.2.

Probably, I'm not too sure what the pattern is for content patches and mega-dungeons.

[Hitei]

I did the Dornagal race yesterday for a WQ. Good lord, what a horrid place to put a skyriding race; a capital city with terrible FPS for a significant vocal percentage of the player base (based on the amount of threads I've seen on the official forums and reddit), when you need the game to be responsive to hit the rings.

Do you even have to place to finish the WQs? Don't you just have to make it to the end of the race? Would be easy even with like 300 MS and 20 fps.

[Ersula]

Any ideas for 11.0.7 patch?

I'm assuming it has to be a new Plunderstorm/remix type event. It wouldn't be a mega-dungeon or something that gives gear for this first season, we already have the anniversary stuff for that.

[Black Rider]

I could see us going to whatever island is seemingly above the Beledar.
We won't go inside the crystal or anything, but instead build up to Undermine or what have you in 11.1.

Alternatively I could see us going to the Rootlands or the Goblin area east of the Ringing Deeps as those seemed to have been designed already.

Were there any hints about Undermine before?

[Worldshaper]

Any ideas for 11.0.7 patch?

11.0.5 - Anniversary.

11.0.7 - Travel to "crystal isle". Mean gobos.
11.1 - Undermine, stop little green men from giving shards of light crystal to big, mean voidies.

11.1.5 - Uldaz mega-dungeon, featuring super radical Earthen completely loyal to the Edicts, and some overtaken by the Void. A big, sprawling Titan-forged complex full of ancient machinery and prisons.

11.1.7 - Shadow gather around Khaz Algar, with cultists seeking to use the life-force of the ancient roots to revive an Old God.
11.2 - Head into the "Rootlands," and protect Elun'Ahir from the 5th Old God. Help the Haranir carry out their ancient charge and cleanse the roots for good. As a result, some will leave Khaz Algar and join the Horde and Alliance.

11.2.X - Playable Haranir, wrap-up of the story, and setup of the Midnight story. Xal'atath has been able to bring about "Midnight," a.k.a. the Hour of Twilight.

[Zardas]

11.1 - Undermine, stop little green men from giving shards of light crystal to big, mean voidies.

Selling, not giving.

[Foolicious]

11.1.5 - Uldaz mega-dungeon, featuring super radical Earthen completely loyal to the Edicts, and some overtaken by the Void. A big, sprawling Titan-forged complex full of ancient machinery and prisons.

I feel like the deeper we go down the coreway the more anti edict earthen we will encounter, including the "dead" thraegar. But not more of the titan loyalists.

[Worldshaper]

I feel like the deeper we go down the coreway the more anti edict earthen we will encounter, including the "dead" thraegar. But not more of the titan loyalists.

I see what you mean. My reasoning is that the most hard-line Earthen are those once tasked with protecting the worldsoul prison, long ago. Basically sealed off from the world, like an order of monks in some temple atop the Himalayas.

To them, everything going on on the surface would be outrageous. But a few of them have probably gone mad, or turned to the Void.

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Selling, not giving.

True! /10char

[Mace]

Started Wondering so made a list off memory.

Male,

Thrall
Bran
Mangi
Dagran
Anduin
Gazlow
Stoneward
Skitter
Tyrulion
Khadgar
Kurdan
The general
The vizier
Trollbane

Female

Alleria
Female thrall
Gorgona
Steelstrike
Moria
The 3 female earthen council members
The weaver
faerin
Jiana
Liadrin and her daughter

Obviously not every one but I think it’s most of the major characters who aren’t just random side quest NPC’s or world quest talking heads. The balance seems pretty good.

I wonder how this compares to those in the last 3 expansions.

[Joshuaj]

Elune was called an "upstart goddess" by Xal'atath which I always thought was interesting. Granted that's almost 10 year old lore at this point but I wonder if there will be any elaboration on that in a hypothetical rootlands patch.

Personally my guess is that Life doesn't work like other forces. Instead of a pantheon Elune is a singular entity which multiple facets. Hence why Elune can use Light, Void, Order and even Death magic. The only thing she's really missing at this point is something connected to Disorder.

Quick reminder we've seen very little of the cosmos itself. It's very possible a Pantheon of Life does exist, and we just know very little of it. The idea that Elune is the only life entity may or may not be true, but everything implies the latter rather than the former atm.

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Heck, Hearthstone only just now gave us an expac focused on the Dark Beyond, which is a rare enough thing in the ACTUAL WoW lore.

Which btw, the art for the new HS expac is amazing.

[Makabreska]

Elune was called an "upstart goddess" by Xal'atath which I always thought was interesting. Granted that's almost 10 year old lore at this point but I wonder if there will be any elaboration on that in a hypothetical rootlands patch.

Azshara called Jaina a "novice mage". I would not put much thought into insults of a high on ego villain.

[Nymrohd]

Azshara called Jaina a "novice mage". I would not put much thought into insults of a high on ego villain.

Raw power is different from skill. Jaina is particularly exceptional at teleportation for instance. Yet she could never establish a stable portal system like Occuleth who probably cannot handle the same amount of power than Jaina at all but simply has far more experience and thus precision. Jaina and Occuleth could only penetrate Azshara's teleportation block by tapping directly into the Heart of Azeroth whose power is extraordinary.

[Joshuaj]

Perhaps Elune was elevated to her status, much like Bwonsamdi was elevated by Mueh'zala.

Which one indicate the one that reigns above Elune... depending on if they are apart of the force of Light, Life, or Void.

Based off the fact that Elune and the WQ are sisters...I'm not so sure.

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Tho it is possible she ended up in a Pelagos esc situation maybe.

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Elune was called an "upstart goddess" by Xal'atath which I always thought was interesting. Granted that's almost 10 year old lore at this point but I wonder if there will be any elaboration on that in a hypothetical rootlands patch.

Personally my guess is that Life doesn't work like other forces. Instead of a pantheon Elune is a singular entity which multiple facets. Hence why Elune can use Light, Void, Order and even Death magic. The only thing she's really missing at this point is something connected to Disorder.

Upstart just means someone who has risen to a specific level, especially through a means of arrogance. Elune has ties to a lot of pantheons outside her own, and even has children who worship her. Wouldn't be shocked if she was a bit of an egomaniac.

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That hearthstone expansion is like Warcraft and StarCraft having a mutated baby.

That said, I’d be lying if I didn’t believe Blizzard could build a void/light-based technology (artificer) class from that concept for midnight.

I mean...

WoW's always had the sci-fi stuff regarding it. Idk why people were always doubting me on that. This Hearthstone expac basically just doubles down on this concept by having it be focused on the pre-Draenor Draenei.

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Far as I can recall, no one's talked about how the next Hearthstone expansion and its cards has leaked, have they? Because Hearhtstone has kind of shown things off before they appeared in WoW (i.e. N'Zoth).

So, for example, there's some new race, or individual, named To'cha

And then there's what people think may be our first look at a Void Lord. Link If so, I like that its eye(?) is basically a black hole. This one's from a card they revealed call the Ceaseless Expanse

Link to the whole leak.

(Also Yrel sighting)

If you mean the Ceaseless Expanse, it's already confirmed to not be a Void Lord.

It's just a big guy with space for a face AKA a massive space elemental.

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This makes the gods feel so much more powerful btw lmaooo

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Some interesting stuff for sure. But so far to date, we've never seen a WoW lore figure leaked in HS. If they are added to WoW its generally as a reference specifically to HS.

The race is potentially a bit more telling since tortollans were first featured in HS (Journey to Un'goro 2017) and then later seen in BFA (2018). So very possible this alien/gnome looking to'cha character could appear in WoW

The To'cha could be added in Midnight ngl

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What are you even talking about? No-one is going to "genocide" the Arathi, well neither the Alliance nor the Horde will. I wouldn't put it past some other force or group to destroy them. In fact, they seem like they're potentially so powerful and so tied to a single point of failure (their Emperor) that I think ultimately their empire is likely to end up being destroyed from within by them making a pact or bargain with someone they shouldn't when they begin to lose the war they inevitably start with the Alliance/Horde.

Also the idea that a society of brainwashed Light-zealots lead by a god-Emperor is "not bland" and "has personality" is pretty funny stuff.

I feel like you're still mad about what happened to the Iron Horde.

They would just be a WoWified Warhammer 40k concept.

I think it'd be really sick if done right.

I just want Disorder Lords tho. Come on Blizz, give us WoWs version of the Chaos Gods! The demons and the Nether are so boring rn