The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Berkilak]

I mean, we pretty much already learned it's purpose. It was a failsafe for Tyr, containing access codes for Tyrhold and the blueprint for his body.

Yet it is speculated by Nozdormu that "still had use" beyond that initial bit. And it failed in what Nozdormu initially believed that extended usage to be for. Hinting that it does still have use, but not what he had thought. An understandable mistake, given his current frame of mind.

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Love and freindship? Nan I wouldn’t say they are serious subjects.

In isolation, perhaps not. But those things persevering in the face of the "dark maturity" that everyone seems to be pining for? They are absolutely serious subjects when they acknowledge the alternatives.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

In isolation, perhaps not. But those things persevering in the face of the "dark maturity" that everyone seems to be pining for? They are absolutely serious subjects when they acknowledge the alternatives.

Ya id agree with you on that, but I don’t think that’s the context they were referring to given the content of the rest of there post.

[Voldai]

I hope to see more world evolution while we were away similar to Shadowlands. What do you think? Is that a good idea?

[Luck4]

I hope to see more world evolution while we were away similar to Shadowlands. What do you think? Is that a good idea?

Do you mean another time skip?

[Lahis]

I hope to see more world evolution while we were away similar to Shadowlands. What do you think? Is that a good idea?

We need the see the first time skip first.

[Berkilak]

We need the see the first time skip first.

Indeed. Don’t need another time skip when we’ve seen nothing of consequence from the one we just got.

[Alanar]

It's like the off-topic forum has taken on a life of its own, turning this forum into 50% game discussions and 50% political ones. I actually think the forum would be better off with no off-topic forum and a general rule against discussing politics here. Take it to the news sites, this is a site for games.

Its very hard to say anything these days really.... or ask without getting into something bad and/or offend some one. Not much is needed there.

So to completely avoid it all together is to simply not talk about it simple. So yes I agree. There are other sites for that. There is one problem with this tho.. and that is that social/political stuff is portrayed in the game as well, so its impossible to ignore that for a lot of people. Which eventually will find its way to forums like this.

[huth]

Yet it is speculated by Nozdormu that "still had use" beyond that initial bit. And it failed in what Nozdormu initially believed that extended usage to be for. Hinting that it does still have use, but not what he had thought. An understandable mistake, given his current frame of mind.

That use was still directly linked to Tyr, though, not to Dragons.

[Kokolums]

Its very hard to say anything these days really.... or ask without getting into something bad and/or offend some one. Not much is needed there.

So to completely avoid it all together is to simply not talk about it simple. So yes I agree. There are other sites for that. There is one problem with this tho.. and that is that social/political stuff is portrayed in the game as well, so its impossible to ignore that for a lot of people. Which eventually will find its way to forums like this.

Yah I hate that a lot. Video game devs will push a political view in their games all day. Then they turn around and act shocked people discuss political views in game or on forums and start banning.

[micwini]

Indeed. Don’t need another time skip when we’ve seen nothing of consequence from the one we just got.

We didnt even need the first time skip. We haven't seen "the consequences" of anything since cata apart from Arathi, Darkshore and Silithus

[Revamp Man]

Tyr is revived
However due to the restore point he's missing a bit of his personality so he sees the dragons as a failure and decides to take matters into his own hands

He goes to Avaloren and awakens a dragonflight who's eggs were being incubated in the waters of order magic and BOOM silver dragons.

We discover the original Tyr in Avaloren barely alive due to the local titan forged draining him over the years. Eventually we free him and we find the new Tyr preparing to invade the world and we get an unlikely alliance with odyn who has come around to see mortals as good

[Lady Atia]

Tyr is revived
However due to the restore point he's missing a bit of his personality so he sees the dragons as a failure and decides to take matters into his own hands

He goes to Avaloren and awakens a dragonflight who's eggs were being incubated in the waters of order magic and BOOM silver dragons.

We discover the original Tyr in Avaloren barely alive due to the local titan forged draining him over the years. Eventually we free him and we find the new Tyr preparing to invade the world and we get an unlikely alliance with odyn who has come around to see mortals as good

No no no no. Odyn needs to be our enemy, and we need to kill him for good.

#Justice4Helya

[Luck4]

We didnt even need the first time skip. We haven't seen "the consequences" of anything since cata apart from Arathi, Darkshore and Silithus

Indeed, skipping time just for the sake of skipping is worthless, I bet Blizzard only did this minuscule time-skip because of how popular this subject was back in Shadowlands. But back then people were speculating a skip in the range of decades, not a couple of years, LMAO.

[Revamp Man]

No no no no. Odyn needs to be our enemy, and we need to kill him for good.

#Justice4Helya

Nah she made her choices
Yeah odyn was a dick and deserves death but if Sylvanas can be redeemed we can not kill a dick

[huth]

Nah she made her choices
Yeah odyn was a dick and deserves death but if Sylvanas can be redeemed we can not kill a dick

We can still kill him. We just can't cite that as the reason and not be called out on hypocrisy.

[Revamp Man]

We can still kill him. We just can't cite that as the reason and not be called out on hypocrisy.

We can kill him BUT I would prefer he be saved for a future expansion where we go against all the keepers and essentially rewire them

[Lorgar Aurelian]

We can kill him BUT I would prefer he be saved for a future expansion where we go against all the keepers and essentially rewire them

We already had that it was called ulduar.

[Alanar]

We can still kill him. We just can't cite that as the reason and not be called out on hypocrisy.

Let him meet with hes friend Tyr first and see how that goes.

Outside of him being a dick and forcefully transforming Helya, we don't have much reason to do so at this point. He still was at our side and probably saw the potential of mortals as well. Even tho he barely did anything to help us in the end besides sending some troops. It all depends on how Tyr is rvived, if hes missing a piece ( which is not unlikely) hes personality could change, but so far it's all guessing.

[Lady Atia]

PTR servers are offline btw, new build inc ^.^

[Kokolums]

It's like the off-topic forum has taken on a life of its own, turning this forum into 50% game discussions and 50% political ones. I actually think the forum would be better off with no off-topic forum and a general rule against discussing politics here. Take it to the news sites, this is a site for games.

there is a trend with internet forums where they spring to life as popularity grows, they add an off topic forum, then popularity of the original topic wanes, the off topic section becomes the dominant section, and then finally the site owners pull the plug. seen it a lot.