The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Jaina could read memories, in theory. So, she could read all end everything from the mage's memory. If the theory is right.

Given that said mage is dead reading his memory’s would likely be hard.

Not that it would really matter there’s like 5 other ways they could figure it out without his research with Khadgar knowing how to see visions of the past and bronze dragons and the like.

[Lady Atia]

Also for Legion Remix, I want this as an off hand

You can get it as a dagger atleast! Drops from Mannoroth.

[Eldryth]

I'm down with another saga that unfolds across a contient. Exploring 1/3rd of it at a time. Not a little island zone like Broken Isles, Dragon Isles, etc. but a big continent akin to the first two. Too much land to cover in a single expansion.

I love the idea of that, but it's hard to picture it working well, logistically.

Given that flying would probably be available, they'd need a way to keep us from entering the rest of the continent early that doesn't feel completely artificial. An invisible wall, or multiple magic barriers splitting up the empire for years... maybe the latter could work, but it feels forced.

[milkmustache]

Something I'm going to be very curious to see with a revamp of Northrend is handling the amount of Horde and Alliance encampments. This will be our first time returning to an old zone following the fourth war and essentially the end of the greater conflicts between the Horde and the Alliance.

Take Borean Tundra for example; what happens to Valiance Keep and Warsong Hold? These can't really be removed as they're both massive structures. Valiance Keep can maybe absorb Farshire and become a human outpost, but even then where does this fit into the greater build of the zones? Warsong Hold is a massive structure Garrosh had built for the campaign against the Lich King, will it just be an abandoned military post?

A core part of Northrend's original design comes from the faction split and the different experience each has in the leveling, dungeon and social aspects of the game. A lot of these areas in each zone are pretty central to the makeup of the zone that I cannot imagine how they approach it. Is it possible that Horde and Alliance have a different campaign again, while not being at war? Will Northrend host more subfaction conflicts like the Heartlands book with the Kor'kron vs Stromgarde?

it's intersting to think that Quel'thalas has a far easier approach to a revamp in the sense that it was a single faction's zone. Only one main plot needs to be replaced, and this general theme with Midnight makes it fairly easy to continue in TWW's steps of the Horde and Alliance answering a call together.

I'm really excited to see how they handle this, I think it could be a really fun way to continue to flesh out any worldbuilding that may been watered down in the past few expansions.

[Kellorion]

You can get it as a dagger atleast! Drops from Mannoroth.

Thats a trinket.

[Golden Yak]

I love the idea of that, but it's hard to picture it working well, logistically.

Given that flying would probably be available, they'd need a way to keep us from entering the rest of the continent early that doesn't feel completely artificial. An invisible wall, or multiple magic barriers splitting up the empire for years... maybe the latter could work, but it feels forced.

It's been done before, though it always does feel a little contrived yes. Forbidden Reach being cut off by Razsageth's storms, for example. And even now you can fly into vast open caverns past Nerub'ar Palace, but a few seconds in and you'll get webbed up and dumped back in the city.

I think Avaloren was said to be cut off from the rest of the world by storms, so maybe that could feature. Although I kind of like the idea of large magical walls, like a magical version of Pandaria's Serpent's Spine. There is also that report of Titanforged heretics, maybe Avaloren is divided up into regions and we're just not given any reason to forge past the one we start in immediately.

[Lady Atia]

Thats a trinket.

No. It's literally a dagger. https://www.wowhead.com/item=124367/...ots:id=1117870

[Golden Yak]

@Worldshaper

You're paintin' a picture. And I like it.

[Scyth]

I wouldn't mind that being the story tbh. Really hope they do something interesting with the Beledar, would be a shame to just leave it untouched.

[Kellorion]

No. It's literally a dagger. https://www.wowhead.com/item=124367/...ots:id=1117870

NO, that one of Mannoraths teeth, fang, what im talking about its a chalice/cup

It was carved from the horn of an unknown creature, being curved and yellow, and had strange glyphs inscribed on it.[1]

Something else.

[Nymrohd]

Btw do you all think there is a chance of Anduin actually dying?
This is a longshot but I could see Anduin sacrificing himself and being able to force the Beledar to shift back to permanent Light similar to how Velen shifted K'ara. Ofc it could also be Turalyon that does that. Or Faerin.

[Sondrelk]

Btw do you all think there is a chance of Anduin actually dying?
This is a longshot but I could see Anduin sacrificing himself and being able to force the Beledar to shift back to permanent Light similar to how Velen shifted K'ara. Ofc it could also be Turalyon that does that. Or Faerin.

Not really. Anduin is as close as it gets to a main character in WoW.
He could disappear, or appear to be dead. But he will almost certainly stick around for the foreseeable future.

[Joshuaj]

11.1.5

In the new 'Nightfall' content, players push back against new Horrific Visions as Xal'atath seeks to sow distrust and fear amongst Azeroth's champions.

Additionally, we witness the Beledar's inevitable turning to a more long-lasting darkened state. While the threat of the Nerubians has subsided, this still turns Hallowfall into dangerous place with the Kobyss - and worse creatures still - rising from the sea.

11.1.7

Old God blood causes horrible manifestations of corrupted life to appear across Khaz Algar. Infused with the life-giving force of Elun'Ahir, this blood evolves otherwise normal creatures into living nightmares.

11.2

Accept the invitation of the Haranir to journey into the secret realm of Elun'Ahir, from whence they've watched over Khaz Algar for thousands of years.

Their domain is teeming with life, perfectly adapted to life below the ground. Thorny, colourful, sometimes strange, and lethal.

Cleanse Elun'Ahir's corruption and end its defilement from Old God blood.

Earn the trust of the Haranir and learn more of the secret pact between Eonar and Elune, as you travel alongside the Freysworn into this forgotten place.

11.2.5

War Within epilogue begins, as the Haranir allied race becomes available to players.

While we've freed the Earthen, ended the corruption of Elun'Ahir, saved the Beledar from darkness, and learned vital information about the worldsoul's imprisonment, our campaign in Khaz Algar hasn't been a complete success.

Xal'atath remains free and achieved most of her goals, allowing her to continue on with her plans.

11.2.7

The 'awakening' takes place and the Void's assault on Azeroth is ready to begin.

12.0

Midnight. Defend the Sunwell to prevent the Void from taking Azeroth.

Watch our liberators become our enemy when malicious forces of the Light seek to claim Azeroth instead.

13.0

Go to Northrend, witness the return of the Titans, and free the worldsoul.

W post ngl

[CasualFilth]

12.0

Midnight. Defend the Sunwell to prevent the Void from taking Azeroth.

Watch our liberators become our enemy when malicious forces of the Light seek to claim Azeroth instead.

Called it!

'Midnight' will be the 'Shadowbringers' of WoW

[huth]

Called it!

'Midnight' will be the 'Shadowbringers' of WoW

Called what? Worldshaper's speculation about Midnight?

[Joshuaj]

Called it!

'Midnight' will be the 'Shadowbringers' of WoW

1. This is speculation, nothing more.

And 2. Even if the Light ended up having some malicious intent behind it, that's been built up since Legion, which came out before Shadowbringers.

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So, checkmate.

[Lady Atia]

NO, that one of Mannoraths teeth, fang, what im talking about its a chalice/cup

Something else.

Ehm, you realize the chalice was literally one of his fangs? The dagger is the chalice plus extra fel effekts, but whatever.

[Joshuaj]

Any update on 11.1?

[huth]

Any update on 11.1?

What kind of update would you expect right now? We're due for 11.0.7 soon, so i'd expect the focus to be on that.

[Makabreska]

Any update on 11.1?

We had it's reveal only 10 days ago, we had interviews about it. Don't expect much more until it hits PTR.