The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[milkmustache]

I don't know, being a Goblin or Gnome inside a mech shooting monsters in the face while tanking sounds more fun than the standard sword/board tanking we got currently.

I think it certainly expands upon the fantasy. Tinker would be a massive addition to the rotation and build upon the uniqueness of WoW's world.

I wonder if there's a possibility for a mech as tank, something like Brinthe's backpack for a DPS, and something else for healer.

[Teriz]

I think it certainly expands upon the fantasy. Tinker would be a massive addition to the rotation and build upon the uniqueness of WoW's world.

I wonder if there's a possibility for a mech as tank, something like Brinthe's backpack for a DPS, and something else for healer.

The survey specifically mentioned mech suits for tanking.

[Enrif]

Not a fan of the name Titankiller ...

Titankiller was just my translation. Can as likely by translated as Titanslayer, or any other word in that vain

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The survey specifically mentioned mech suits for tanking.

Not specifically for tanking. Just "controlling mech-suits". While it is likely to align with tanking, it could also be used in a dps spec. i imagine it to be a cooldown like the DH metamorphosis, something that isn't active all the time, and they can use it for a DPS and Tanking spec with different designs for each spec

[Teriz]

Not specifically for tanking. Just "controlling mech-suits". While it is likely to align with tanking, it could also be used in a dps spec. i imagine it to be a cooldown like the DH metamorphosis, something that isn't active all the time, and they can use it for a DPS and Tanking spec with different designs for each spec

I have a feeling it's going to be both. DPS will likely have mechs on cooldowns, while the tanking spec has it as a toggle, like the Tinker hero from WC3. I would love it if Blizzard brought back MoP/WoD Demonology-style mechanics for the DPS Tinker where you build a resource, summon the mech suit, and the suit lasts as long as the resource level is up.

[huth]

I don't know, being a Goblin or Gnome inside a mech shooting monsters in the face while tanking sounds more fun than the standard sword/board tanking we got currently.

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Meh. None of the others had a significant impact, this won't either. It's not about the fantasy, many people just don't want to tank and your main target group would be people playing different tank specs currently.

[Teriz]

Meh. None of the others had a significant impact, this won't either. It's not about the fantasy, many people just don't want to tank and your main target group would be people playing different tank specs currently.

I believe none of the others had any significant impact because they weren't significantly different than what we had at the time. We either have the plate tanks with swords and shields, or we have the agility-based tanks who all happen to wear leather and have creative ways to dodge.

A Tinker tank could offer something different than either, since it wouldn't be swinging a sword, and it won't be dodging stuff. And like I said; there's something satisfying about shooting stuff in the face.

[huth]

I believe none of the others had any significant impact because they weren't significantly different than what we had at the time. We either have the plate tanks with swords and shields, or we have the agility-based tanks who all happen to wear leather and have creative ways to dodge.

A Tinker tank could offer something different than either, since it wouldn't be swinging a sword, and it won't be dodging stuff. And like I said; there's something satisfying about shooting stuff in the face.

It will not work fundamentally different from existing tank specs.

Your expectations are purely based on personal emotional responses. That's you, not the players in general.

[Chickat]

Haven't you heard? TWW tank specs suck right now. I hope not, because Zaralek & Najatar were both shit tiers.

Nazjatar second best zone they ever made behind Argus. Patch zone that is. Suramar is number 1 if you count it.

[Teriz]

It will not work fundamentally different from existing tank specs.

Your expectations are purely based on personal emotional responses. That's you, not the players in general.

Mechs, Guns, explosives, and robotic summons are fundamentally different than current tank specs.

It's not expectations based on emotional responses, it's the nature of the class concept and the theme/abilities it would carry.

[Enrif]

I believe none of the others had any significant impact because they weren't significantly different than what we had at the time. We either have the plate tanks with swords and shields, or we have the agility-based tanks who all happen to wear leather and have creative ways to dodge.

A Tinker tank could offer something different than either, since it wouldn't be swinging a sword, and it won't be dodging stuff. And like I said; there's something satisfying about shooting stuff in the face.

Death Knight is neither an agility based tank, nor a shields tank.

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Mechs, Guns, explosives, and robotic summons are fundamentally different than current tank specs.

It's not expectations based on emotional responses, it's the nature of the class concept and the theme/abilities it would carry.

We have 0 information how a tinker will look like in action. From the the text, it could be a amalgam of Demon Hunter and Druid that uses a change shape for their mech, the constructs can work similar to the death knight undead minion or the monk celestial summons. Guns for a tank are just a ranged option like warriors throw weapon.

So, basically, just like all the other tanks, just with the theme and flavor of tinker.

[Nymrohd]

On Hero Talents vs Classes some could even be Hero Talents of others that are classes; e.g. you could have a Tinker class and an Artificer Hero Talent.

[Eldryth]

On Hero Talents vs Classes some could even be Hero Talents of others that are classes; e.g. you could have a Tinker class and an Artificer Hero Talent.

That could be plausible for some of the vaguer concepts listed there, like Gunner and Gunslingers absolutely sound like two parts of the same thing (or maybe one of them could be Tinker's dps spec?). But Artificer and Tinker are some of the more detailed things there. It looks more like they have two ideas for a tech-focused class and are trying to figure out which one would be better received.

I expect we'll get one of them or Bard in TLT if the survey is real, they're some of the more popular requests out there and their descriptions are way more fleshed out than most of the other options.

[Nymrohd]

That could be plausible for some of the vaguer concepts listed there, like Gunner and Gunslingers absolutely sound like two parts of the same thing (or maybe one of them could be Tinker's dps spec?). But Artificer and Tinker are some of the more detailed things there. It looks more like they have two ideas for a tech-focused class and are trying to figure out which one would be better received.

I expect we'll get one of them or Bard in TLT if the survey is real, they're some of the more popular requests out there and their descriptions are way more fleshed out than most of the other options.

I mean Gunner could be a Tinker spec or Hero Talent, Gunslinger could be made into a Rogue Hero Talent easily.

[Supertoster]

I really-really hope the next class will be a tech-based in any form. Tinker, Artificer, Engineer or whatever - I don't care.
I just want a core-fantasy class that can fit any story and makes sense in any environment, unlike DH and Evoker. I really don't want any weird stuff like Titankiller, Prismatics or something like that.

[Teriz]

Death Knight is neither an agility based tank, nor a shields tank.

It's a plate-based tank that swings around a sword.

We have 0 information how a tinker will look like in action. From the the text, it could be a amalgam of Demon Hunter and Druid that uses a change shape for their mech, the constructs can work similar to the death knight undead minion or the monk celestial summons. Guns for a tank are just a ranged option like warriors throw weapon.

So, basically, just like all the other tanks, just with the theme and flavor of tinker.

Not like other tanks. A mech suit-based tank isn't going to be swinging around swords or dodging attacks.That's the benefit of having a thematic that isn't being used by existing classes; It opens up new gameplay opportunities that has the potential of changing how the spec plays.

[Nymrohd]

So given we have a different survey about M+ that is widely reported maybe the class survey is actually bogus.

[huth]

Not like other tanks. A mech suit-based tank isn't going to be swinging around swords or dodging attacks.That's the benefit of having a thematic that isn't being used by existing classes; It opens up new gameplay opportunities that has the potential of changing how the spec plays.

That is basically just Guardian with a mech-suit skin for Bear Form.

[Teriz]

That is basically just Guardian with a mech-suit skin for Bear Form.

You think a Goblin in a mech suit is going to be clawing and biting targets?

[Mecheon]

That is basically just Guardian with a mech-suit skin for Bear Form.

I mean, I'd hardly call Guardian's whole gimmick just transforming. If anything its gimmick is being versitile, dependable and, well, Ironfur being a solid, dependable and reliable buff

All we have is they would use inventions, mech-suits and other things. How that translates into gameplay, we dunno yet. For all we know they pull a Dva from Overwatch and have a mech-suit phase and then blow the suit up to discharge some sort of thing before re-summoning a new one

[Scyth]

I really-really hope the next class will be a tech-based in any form. Tinker, Artificer, Engineer or whatever - I don't care.
I just want a core-fantasy class that can fit any story and makes sense in any environment, unlike DH and Evoker. I really don't want any weird stuff like Titankiller, Prismatics or something like that.

Odd you mentioned Evoker instead of DK tbh as they fit a lot more scenarios than DKs imo.