The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Wyrt]

Assuming the survey is true, which seems unlikely, why would it preclude a class in Midnight? The survey has both Battlemage and Spellbreaker on it which are both Quel'thalas themed classes. It also has Witch and Necromancer which seem to have little to do with what we know of The Last Titan.

That said, I can't see the survey as being real. Prismatic being Titan themed but using death/shadow magic seems pretty glaringly wrong. Witches being based on Drust and Gilnean Harvest witches is weird since both of those were used as justification for Kul Tiran and Worgen druids respectively. Why do Kul Tirans and Worgen have druids then if the witches are a separate class?

And there's no way a German language version of the survey would leak but an English language one wouldn't. There are far, far more English speakers playing WoW than German speakers.

[Nightshade711]

While I have my doubts, I believe this is legitimate.

If it were real there would be more sources than just the “chromie.de” fansite. (Which isn’t owned by blizzard, despite what some content creators think)

[Foolicious]

Assuming the survey is true, which seems unlikely, why would it preclude a class in Midnight

Because its way to late to switch up plans for midnight based on a survey. With a reveal in summer (gamescom in august most likely) and housing coming later that year most of the development plans should be set in stone at this point. Dragonflight followed the standard development time and they still had to ship evoker unfinished.

[Teriz]

Assuming the survey is true, which seems unlikely, why would it preclude a class in Midnight?

If this is real, then whatever is coming in Midnight would already be set in stone. There's no need to poll it.

The survey has both Battlemage and Spellbreaker on it which are both Quel'thalas themed classes. It also has Witch and Necromancer which seem to have little to do with what we know of The Last Titan.

Those could quite possibly be hero talent trees and new specializations to existing classes.

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If it were real there would be more sources than just the “chromie.de” fansite. (Which isn’t owned by blizzard, despite what some content creators think)

People have stated in reddit and the official forums that they have received this survey.

[Wyrt]

Because its way to late to switch up plans for midnight based on a survey. With a reveal in summer (gamescom in august most likely) and housing coming later that year most of the development plans should be set in stone at this point. Dragonflight followed the standard development time and they still had to ship evoker unfinished.

You're right, they likely have the Midnight class, if any, already in development. It just seems weird to include Spellbreaker if there's no way it'd be ready for Midnight if that's what survey takers liked.

[Teriz]

You're right, they likely have the Midnight class, if any, already in development. It just seems weird to include Spellbreaker if there's no way it'd be ready for Midnight if that's what survey takers liked.

Spellbreaker is very likely the long-awaited Demon Hunter 3rd spec. If I had to guess, it's going to be a support spec.

[Wyrt]

Spellbreaker is very likely the long-awaited Demon Hunter 3rd spec.

What do Spellbreakers have to do with demon hunters?

[Cheezits]

The survey isn't the deciding factor on a class getting in or not, they could've floated in classes that are coming with Midnight to see what the reception is vs future classes.

Also, if that idea about Battlemages "using elements" is true, I wonder if they are moving forward with some additional lore on how mages use Frost and Fire? This could explain the naga and underwater hints we've been getting since DF: Tidemother/Azshara stuff could tie mages more firmly to water. Also gives Jaina something to do.

I know that mages technically already use elements but I believe the lore has always been that the versions they create are fake and formed from arcane vs true elements.

[Wyrt]

The survey isn't the deciding factor on a class getting in or not, they could've floated in classes that are coming with Midnight to see what the reception is vs future classes.

Also, if that idea about Battlemages "using elements" is true, I wonder if they are moving forward with some additional lore on how mages use Frost and Fire? This could explain the naga and underwater hints we've been getting since DF: Tidemother/Azshara stuff could tie mages more firmly to water. Also gives Jaina something to do.

I know that mages technically already use elements but I believe the lore has always been that the versions they create are fake and formed from arcane vs true elements.

If you remove the arcane aspect of mages to focus on the elements they're kind of just shamans at that point.

[Teriz]

What do Spellbreakers have to do with demon hunters?

Demon Hunters had Spellbreaker abilities in BT, and they had anti-magic abilities.

Also the Blood Elf influence on the DH class. Spellbreakers are an elven concept, and Demon Hunters are an elf class.

[Wyrt]

Demon Hunters had Spellbreaker abilities in BT, and they had anti-magic abilities.

Also the Blood Elf influence on the DH class. Spellbreakers are an elven concept, and Demon Hunters are an elf class.

So, literally just because they're both elf classes? Clearly Blizzard should have made Demon Hunter a druid spec then.

[Nightshade711]

People have stated in reddit and the official forums that they have received this survey.

People troll all the time. I can say I got the survey but it doesn’t mean it is true.

I’d maybe believe it more if there were actual screenshots… like all the previous surveys.

[Teriz]

So, literally just because they're both elf classes? Clearly Blizzard should have made Demon Hunter a druid spec then.

Did you miss the part where I said they had Spellbreaker abilities, and have a history of using anti-magic abilities?

[Wyrt]

Did you miss the part where I said they had Spellbreaker abilities, and have a history of using anti-magic abilities?

Literally every single class has anti-magic abilities. That doesn't make every class a Spellbreaker.

[Nightshade711]

Literally every single class has anti-magic abilities. That doesn't make every class a Spellbreaker.

Rogue has kick & cloak of shadows so they’re a spellbreaker obviously.

Dks have Anti-magic shell/zone & rune of spellwarding so they’re clearly spellbreakers obviously.

If that’s the bar for writing off classes does that mean Tinker isn’t valid since Hunter has technological pets & abilities? Not to mention engineering.

[Teriz]

People troll all the time. I can say I got the survey but it doesn’t mean it is true.

I’d maybe believe it more if there were actual screenshots… like all the previous surveys.

Maybe, but maybe they're not trolling? The community at large seems to believe this survey is real, and there's quite a few reasons to believe its real.

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Rogue has kick & cloak of shadows so they’re a spellbreaker obviously.

Dks have Anti-magic shell/zone & rune of spellwarding so they’re clearly spellbreakers obviously.

If that’s the bar for writing off classes does that mean Tinker isn’t valid since Hunter has technological pets & abilities? Not to mention engineering.

Uh Demon Hunters literally had an ability called Spellbreaker. It was an ability they shared with, wait for it.... Spellbreakers.

[Nightshade711]

Maybe, but maybe they're not trolling? The community at large seems to believe this survey is real, and there's quite a few reasons to believe its real.

There’s not “quite a few reasons” to believe it’s real.
When there’s actual screenshots, which there have been for every previous survey, then it might be real.

Makes you wonder why wowhead hasn’t posted about it, when they post almost everything. (Like the augmentation speculation and actually credible leaks)

[Wyrt]

I also really don't see a problem with an "elf" class. There actually isn't a blood elf class in the game and they are by far the most popular race. They did get a Hero Talent for mage which is nice.

[Teriz]

I also really don't see a problem with an "elf" class. There actually isn't a blood elf class in the game and they are by far the most popular race. They did get a Hero Talent for mage which is nice.

The problem with an elf class is that we already have an elf class. I don't believe the userbase is keen on the idea of introducing yet another glaive-using melee elf class.

[Wyrt]

The problem with an elf class is that we already have an elf class. I don't believe the userbase is keen on the idea of introducing yet another glaive-using melee elf class.

Demon hunter is a night elf class that blood elves are allowed to be for faction balance. Demon hunter has no history with Quel'thalas.

You're basically writing off the most popular race getting a themed class because the 2nd most popular race got a themed class.

And just to be clear, I'm not saying the class needs to be blood elf exclusive, just have themes and history actually trying it to them. I think whatever the next class is should be available to everyone.