The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nibelheimy]

Taking long requested fan favourite races and turning them into half-way there abominations should not be what we want with our playable race roster. Mechagnomes and Drac'thyr are proof of this. The game frankly deserves better.

[Alanar]

Bulkier troll model I imagine. The classic troll model is very spindly, and they could easily make a much more buff version for both male and female trolls.

Yea, I was thinking about something like this, that would be fair and have been frequently asked over the years.:


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Both, but mainly the bulky model. Can easily offer skin colors for Frostmane, Drakkari, etc.

Yes, fair I could see that.

[Sondrelk]

Both, but mainly the bulky model. Can easily offer skin colors for Frostmane, Drakkari, etc.

Suppose this also brings the discussion back to what it was in BfA though. Would it be better if racials and cosmetics were more streamlined across various races and Allied races.
Would it be better if when you made a human character, if you got the option of just having the Kul Tiran body type.? Or Gilnean voicelines? Do we strictly need so many different Dwarves when you could just make all the Dark Iron stuff a toggle for regular dwarves?

Might be a debate that needs to be considered if Blizzard ever does another customization overhaul like they did in WoD.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

the far cooler ascended ones.

Well, that's the issue. Not everybody wants to be the cool uber-special snowflake who was pumped full of void juice. I don't think that really reflects the nerubian fantasy. The old nerubian fantasy was a race of intelligent, sinister spider-people skilled in architecture and engineering, and I'd prefer to embody that over making another superpowered cosmic hero that's associated with the purple flavor and looks vaguely like some kind of arthropod if you squint.

[Joshuaj]

What do people mean with forest trolls, just green skin or the bulky troll model?

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I agree, something like a racial that does that or a cooldown that does the same thing would help a lot to feel like an actual Nerubian. Tell the player a solid story how this works and people will buy it.

Bulky troll model

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Yea, I was thinking about something like this, that would be fair and have been frequently asked over the years.:


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Yes, fair I could see that.

Wasn't there something a while back that showcased Vrykul and Forest Trolls with the other playable races?

Would fit Midnight and TLT perfectly ngl

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I think TLT as expansion is just perfect fit for playable vrykuls, it just makes sense to add them there.

[Nymrohd]

Well, that's the issue. Not everybody wants to be the cool uber-special snowflake who was pumped full of void juice. I don't think that really reflects the nerubian fantasy. The old nerubian fantasy was a race of intelligent, sinister spider-people skilled in architecture and engineering, and I'd prefer to embody that over making another superpowered cosmic hero that's associated with the purple flavor and looks vaguely like some kind of arthropod if you squint.

Yeah if I wanted to play a nerubian, I'd want to play the sage model on a caster or the common model on a rogue. Definitely not the humanoid. What's the point?

[Kereberus]

Metzen was getting Mcdonalds today where I work. He was in a rush because he dropped a piece of paper that had "Magni Romance Patch" underlined.

Any ideas?

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Metzen was getting Mcdonalds today where I work. He was in a rush because he dropped a piece of paper that had "Magni Romance Patch" underlined.

Any ideas?

He's going to rock your world.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Metzen was getting Mcdonalds today where I work. He was in a rush because he dropped a piece of paper that had "Magni Romance Patch" underlined.

Any ideas?

Magni x Watcher Koranos smut confirmed.

[Joshuaj]

Want me to be really honest? I think the announcement IS gonna be console WoW, the more I think about it.

Classic and Modern...and a special announcement? I mean, think of it.

"To get new players into the world of Azeroth, both classic and modern, for the first time ever, we're bringing World of Warcraft to consoles. You can purchase it for the X-BOX Series X right after the direct"

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The announcement for some will be "as hype as the creation of WoW itself", since they can finally play the game outside of the PC.

It's not the announcement I want, but it's the announcement I expect, especially since Blizzard's now owned by Microsoft, and I think there have been some console control support features added to WoW.

[Inxotep]

Remember scaleface's leaks? What if that was actually midnight?

I also remember seeing leaks that showcased blood elf zones, and I remember something about blizz doing a behind the scenes video and there were race icons on the monitor.. races we don't have yet, anyone remember any of that? What if it was there all along..

[Joshuaj]

Yeah...it might just be console WoW. Which, if it is, good for the people that want it, but for a lot of other folks like myself...eh. Would be kinda underwhelming for a special announcement

[milkmustache]

Suppose this also brings the discussion back to what it was in BfA though. Would it be better if racials and cosmetics were more streamlined across various races and Allied races.
Would it be better if when you made a human character, if you got the option of just having the Kul Tiran body type.? Or Gilnean voicelines? Do we strictly need so many different Dwarves when you could just make all the Dark Iron stuff a toggle for regular dwarves?

Might be a debate that needs to be considered if Blizzard ever does another customization overhaul like they did in WoD.

I think that it'd be interseting to go the route of core race > sub race and allow open customziations. In this turn, racials that apply overall can be core race, and some of the more particular ones could possibly be lesser in value and labeled as cantrips.

Example:

Dwarf
Core Racials:
Stoneform, Dungeon Delver, Mass Production, Hyper Productive
Cantrips:
IF Dwarf: Explorer, Frost Resistance
DI Dwarf: Fireblood, Mole Machine
Earthen: Azerite Surge, Quiet Contemplation, Titan-Wrought Frame

There's obviously a lot of work to put into something like that along with what I'm sure is bound to be a decent amount of 20 year old engine spaghetti code to sort through if it is even possible, but I think it'd be an interesting way to keep racials but allow more fluid customization.

[Joshuaj]

Would I be wrong for feeling a bit underwhelmed if the announcement is console WoW?

[Darkarath]

Would I be wrong for feeling a bit underwhelmed if the announcement is console WoW?

It would be big. The biggest MMOs out there, which I think are FFXIV, TESO and New World, all have a console version. It is just a matter of time that Blizzard brings WoW to consoles, and the perfect moment is now, when we are starting a new saga, and when WoW has the chance to make some noise with its 20th anniversary.

That by itself would be important, but I understand that for PC players it would mean nothing. Hopefully is not just WoW on consoles, but a new version of WoW both for PC and consoles. That would be really something, especially if they take the right approach to this supposed new version.

[Kiivar86]

Would I be wrong for feeling a bit underwhelmed if the announcement is console WoW?

No, I think it'd be underwhelming for a fair amount. I posted the other day that it has a "what's in it for me" sorta thing for a lot of folks.

Now, maybe if they bundled in something else with it, a world revamp or something, then yeah that'd work.

[Khaza-R]

Ngl...

I really think that, if Midnight's gonna have an allied race, it'll be the Forest Trolls.

Possible. Very unexciting. But possible.

I am sure people said the same thing about Earthen of course. But at least there's a lot more creative freedom there since they are essentially robots.

[Joshuaj]

No, I think it'd be underwhelming for a fair amount. I posted the other day that it has a "what's in it for me" sorta thing for a lot of folks.

Now, maybe if they bundled in something else with it, a world revamp or something, then yeah that'd work.

That's what I would like, cause I can't see people willingly looking at Retail's leveling zones, and going "yeah, I'd love to go through that in 2024"

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It would be big. The biggest MMOs out there, which I think are FFXIV, TESO and New World, all have a console version. It is just a matter of time that Blizzard brings WoW to consoles, and the perfect moment is now, when we are starting a new saga, and when WoW has the chance to make some noise with its 20th anniversary.

That by itself would be important, but I understand that for PC players it would mean nothing. Hopefully is not just WoW on consoles, but a new version of WoW both for PC and consoles. That would be really something, especially if they take the right approach to this supposed new version.

I'm just saying, when I see something that says "the event is as big as the creation of WoW itself", console WoW would not be what comes to mind.

For others? Sure, that's big, but like you said, it's been done before so it wouldn't feel AS big, ya know?

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Mm, we'll see

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"Following the Indiana Jones and The Great Circle + South of Midnight reveals and the Spyro Trilogy on Game Pass, the “Xbox first-party week“ continues tomorrow with Warcraft Direct, featuring special announcements from the Warcraft teams at Blizzard."

https://x.com/klobrille/status/1856504616738750626 Mmhmmm

[Kiivar86]

"Following the Indiana Jones and The Great Circle + South of Midnight reveals and the Spyro Trilogy on Game Pass, the “Xbox first-party week“ continues tomorrow with Warcraft Direct, featuring special announcements from the Warcraft teams at Blizzard."

https://x.com/klobrille/status/1856504616738750626 Mmhmmm

I don't really see anything special about that. They've been bundled in with the Xbox branding since the merger.