The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[milkmustache]

Whoa. Audiobooks that take place between TWW campaign intro and finale for Jaina and Thrall mentioned are out fully on Youtube. Some interesting takeaways.

Kor'kron is once again a thing. I believe Geye'rah leads them.

Horde and Alliance are mostly in truce, but skirmishes happen. Arathi Highlands is turned into a battlefield for Stormgarde and the Korkron.

[Cheezits]

My excitement for Housing can't be understated but it is the very nervous kind. This is a very fiddly type of feature that can be implemented so many different ways and I've seen several that were just . . . bad.

As long as it's semi-private instances and not beholden to lottery crap like XIV it's VERY hard to fuck up Housing in general.

[Nymrohd]

I'm not bothered. Return it Karazhan was the only one I truly felt deserved to be a Megadungeon. Each one after just felt like more and more of an obligation.

Two dungeons, each one with more love and attention, and only interesting boss concepts sounds more fun to me.

DotI was not worth being a Megadungeon? Most people seemed to think it deserved to be the Raid far more than Aberrus did.

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I would love WoD remix.

My favorite lvling experience and doing it with extra new powers would be fun, i think it's perfect to go MoP-WoD-Legion.

Sure, WoD Remix would be even better than MoP to level characters. But to play and grind for Bronze at max level? Nah. It's just three raids.

[Cheezits]

DotI was not worth being a Megadungeon? Most people seemed to think it deserved to be the Raid far more than Aberrus did.

It has three three new rooms, three of which are repeated, so I can see why people say it wasn't "worth it".

[Joshuaj]

Whoa. Audiobooks that take place between TWW campaign intro and finale for Jaina and Thrall mentioned are out fully on Youtube. Some interesting takeaways.

Kor'kron is once again a thing. I believe Geye'rah leads them.

Horde and Alliance are mostly in truce, but skirmishes happen. Arathi Highlands is turned into a battlefield for Stormgarde and the Korkron.

Annnddd my Northern EK revamp theory is lowered...

[Sondrelk]

Eh does WoD even have enough content to timerun through? I'd skip to Legion.

It doesn't have as much, no. But it does have loads of cosmetics. And it does offer something different.
Legion is obviously a meatier pick, but that doesn't mean we should just skip WoD entirely when there is some value to be extracted.

[Cheezits]

WoD Remix is doable if all the rare items are unlockable through Bronze, it just wouldn't have much draw for people who have already collected all the stuff in WoD as there weren't as many unused items as MOP.

[Nize]

So are we thinking the green line is Legion Remix then? Seems it's purposely changing colors as a sort of hint like they did with the skull and bones last year.

[Worldshaper]

Okay, my thoughts as it relates to WoW specifically:

Mixed or Negative

- Roadmap is a little vague beyond this winter, without any real highlights for the patch content. They will of course update it over time, but I wish some of them said "Allied Race," or "Class Combinations" or something.

- Undermine and Goblins isn't my personal favourite for a patch theme, as I've never been into that aesthetic.

- No Classic+, no HD refreshes, no world revamps, no new class, no console edition.

- No special surprise outside of the games we know, such as an entirely new game, animated series, etc.

Positive

- Love what they did show for Classic, and can't wait to dabble with the 20th Anniversary launch this month. Also MoP, yay!

- Ion looks great, man!

- Midnight detailed in Auguat, and 11.2 - 11.3 potentially seemingly a little light on content, suggests to me Midnight will launch pretty early. Feb 2026 definitely in play.

- Housing is such a welcome addition. Wish it was coming sooner, but just knowing it's on its way feels great. Can't wait to set my special Hearthstone someplace other than a major city.

Funnily enough, the rest of the show did loads to bring it all together. Three excellent expansion themes for Hearthstone, a solid update to Rumble, and great refreshes for the RTS games. All solid. Love thr StarCraft miniset for Hearthstone!

This is all really nitpicking though, because most of my "negatives" are only based on community wishlists and speculation, not any real information from Blizzard. So that's on us.

Overall a great show!

[Nymrohd]

As long as it's semi-private instances and not beholden to lottery crap like XIV it's VERY hard to fuck up Housing in general.

UI design is not easy for it. Will it have free placement? Will it have profession interactions? Is it all in one neighborhood or is there going to be variety? Prebuilt homes with a specific plan, free to built or modular? I don't know I think there are many options on how to implement it and I don't know how well they each work.

[Trazzle]

Welp, prepare yourselves for yet even more years of, “tinkers are for sure the next class…”

[Cheezits]

What does "Season Rewards Refresh" mean for 11.2?

[micwini]

I'm not bothered. Return it Karazhan was the only one I truly felt deserved to be a Megadungeon. Each one after just felt like more and more of an obligation.

Two dungeons, each one with more love and attention, and only interesting boss concepts sounds more fun to me.

You realise there is only 1 new normal dungeon right? Not 2. Motherlode is from BFA

[Dracullus]

I wonder when the 11.1 PTR starts.

Maybe January?

Considering Christmas break, I think maybe even before next patch, just like 10.1 PTR.

You realise there is only 1 new normal dungeon right? Not 2. Motherlode is from BFA

Second is in 11.2.

[Sondrelk]

What does "Season Rewards Refresh" mean for 11.2?

Could just be s confirmation that there will be a Delves Season 3 with unique rewards. Or new mounts from Keystone Master, etc.
Hard to say, really.

[micwini]

Considering Christmas break, I think maybe even before next patch, just like 10.1 PTR.



Second is in 11.2.

Damn. Did we trade a zone for a dungeon then? Because no 'new zone' in 11.2. I missed that completely.

[Eldryth]

You realise there is only 1 new normal dungeon right? Not 2. Motherlode is from BFA

The roadmap showed another new dungeon in 11.2. We don't know what that one is yet, but they're doing a new dungeon in each major patch this time.

[Reive]

ion said housing wouldn't happen without a serious engine upgrade. i wonder if we're going to get a graphical upgrade next expansion

[Sondrelk]

You realise there is only 1 new normal dungeon right? Not 2. Motherlode is from BFA

1 new dungeon now, 1 new dungeon in 11.2.
Sane amount of M+ dungeons, just with twoseparate dungeons rather than a Megadungeon split in two.

[Cheezits]

Damn. Did we trade a zone for a dungeon then? Because no 'new zone' in 11.2. I missed that completely.

Looks to be the case, though Siren Isle isn't listed as a new zone, so we may get a mini zone after Undermine.