The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joshuaj]

To be fair, the alliance/horde have guns, turrets, mech suits, spaceships, tanks, etc but still fight with swords/bows.

Fair. Guess I just have to suspend my disbelief, huh? Lol

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typewriters can't detonate, so they aren't that interesting for goblins.

Looool that is true.

[Valysar]

Not a big fan of D.R.I.V.E., seems to be a bit too fast.
Gonna be worse on "bad" computers.

[Black Rider]

Anything in the game files that points to Dalaran 2.0?

[Zardas]

typewriters can't detonate, so they aren't that interesting for goblins.

I'm sure they can find a way to make them explode.

Also, for those who are on the PTR, are regular mounts usable in Undermine, or just the Drive thingy ?

[Raetary]

Anything in the game files that points to Dalaran 2.0?

There won't be another Dalaran.

[Sondrelk]

There won't be another Dalaran.

There won't be another flying city going around as Azeroths police force. But Dalaran is likely getting rebuilt in some fashion.

[Timester]

There won't be another flying city going around as Azeroths police force. But Dalaran is likely getting rebuilt in some fashion.

No, it won't be built, it was said on the questline.

[Ersula]

It quite literally shouldn't be hard for them to do lol. Heck, I'm fine with them using Pens, since we still use Pens IRL, but an alternative would be cool to see at least lol.

Actually, what's interesting is that with Ink Ribbons, Typewriters are a product of mass production. The Goblin are technologically advanced but live in a world without mass production. Everything has to be made by hand. Ergo, a world with cars & appliances but not typewriters or plastics.

[Lady Atia]

No, it won't be built, it was said on the questline.

I mean, they also said in Cataclysm that the Aspects had lost their powers and the "age of mortals" would be upon us, and that was a cinematic instead of some side questline. I doubt we will get it anytime soon, but never say never.

That said, I'm sure new-Dalaran will be build where the crater is now, and it won't fly around. Fits with the theme of homecoming, and could make a nice spot for housing.

[Raetary]

There won't be another flying city going around as Azeroths police force. But Dalaran is likely getting rebuilt in some fashion.

I very much doubt that, and i don't see how one can come to that conclusion when the Kirin Tor questline was pretty implicit about Dalaran being gone for good, and Aethas straight up questioned whether rebuilding Dalaran was a good idea or not in the first few quests.

The Kirin Tor will likely become more decentralized faction and spread out across multiple bases all over Azeroth.

[Jaggler]

I very much doubt that, and i don't see how one can come to that conclusion when the Kirin Tor questline was pretty implicit about Dalaran being gone for good, and Aethas straight up questioned whether rebuilding Dalaran was a good idea or not in the first few quests.

The Kirin Tor will likely become more decentralized faction and spread out across multiple bases all over Azeroth.

Well Dalaran was not just the Kirin Tor and the Council of Six, but also a lot of just regular people going after their daily lives, who called that place home. I could see some small settlement near the crater of those people. No major magical city, just a smallish town.

[Sondrelk]

I very much doubt that, and i don't see how one can come to that conclusion when the Kirin Tor questline was pretty implicit about Dalaran being gone for good, and Aethas straight up questioned whether rebuilding Dalaran was a good idea or not in the first few quests.

The Kirin Tor will likely become more decentralized faction and spread out across multiple bases all over Azeroth.

I dunno. questioning Dalaran fett kg rebuilt was during the beginning of the quest line when Aethas was having a bit of a breakdown.
By the end of the quest line the only thing the Kirin Tor says for sure is that they won't have a council of all powerful mages, and they won't make another flying city.
Rebuilding Dalaran is more than those two things, it's also about teaching new mages. Having a place for people who used to live in Dalaran to love. And maintaining their history.

As has been said. There is a crater in Hillsbrad where Dalaran used to be. I think it likely they will simply rebuild Dalaran there. And whenever the Kirin Tor is needed they will simply travel to the place without also bringing with them the entire city.

[Cheezits]

Ethereals are definitely a big part of an upcoming TWW patch. Even if the new models are meant for a playable race there's no reason they are all in the TWW files so early.

I really don't think we're going to get Karesh until Midnight. It works very well as both the starting zone for playable Ethereals and the final area to go to at the end of the expansion to deal with Dimensius.

Something I hadn't considered until writing this... I believe they said Xal persists through the whole saga. But what role would she even have in TLT, especially if we defeat her master and the antagonists shift to Iridikron and Bad Keepers/Titans?

[Lady Atia]

Ethereals are definitely a big part of an upcoming TWW patch. Even if the new models are meant for a playable race there's no reason they are all in the TWW files so early.

I really don't think we're going to get Karesh until Midnight. It works very well as both the starting zone for playable Ethereals and the final area to go to at the end of the expansion to deal with Dimensius.

Something I hadn't considered until writing this... I believe they said Xal persists through the whole saga. But what role would she even have in TLT, especially if we defeat her master and the antagonists shift to Iridikron and Bad Keepers/Titans?

Maybe she will actually end up as our ally in TLT.

[Makabreska]

Maybe she will actually end up as our ally in TLT.

That would feel really crap, considering how hard she worked to be no. 1 on everyone shit list.

[Lady Atia]

That would feel really crap, considering how hard she worked to be no. 1 on everyone shit list.

Idk, I like her.

[Ersula]

Maybe she will actually end up as our ally in TLT.

I believe Xalatath is part of Azeroth's psyche the Titan's technology filtered out, the same way they did with the Earthen's consciousness. And it manifested itself as a separate sentient being. Xalatath is profoundly evil but her actual goal is to reunite with Azeroth, which is a good thing. When it shows the worldsoul in the trailer & Xal says "it will be mine" she means unification, not steal the worldsoul's power.

[Cheezits]

I would like if the extent of Xal in TLT is if Nzoth comes back (in the old Xal knife- see BFA ambiguous wrathion knife cutscene) and allies with us in Midnight to deal with her. This may be part of the reason for the Undersea and Naga buildup in DF and TWW. And in an ultimate irony loop she gets sucked BACK into the knife and has to help us do something in TLT.

Nzoth gets out of the knife and... turns into SOMETHING smaller than the huge multiplanar monster. I've been thinking of a mutual ally Nzoth for a while and he could take a lot of interesting humanish forms.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I feel like that whole thing was solely something that was happening with the context of Steve Danuser, I doubt anything will transpire involving the missing Blade or N'zoth.

Again, obviously it could still happen because it does bring some form of energy boost back to the franchise but I tend to think that it is just not going to happen. I think we leave this expansion without anything happening honestly.

But maybe they leave some clues or something to trend towards that in Nightfall/Revisiting Horrific Visions, who knows.

[Ersula]

Funny observation: Archaedas shows a map of post-Sundering Azeroth then talking about the Manifold inside the Vault of Memory, rather than a map of ancient Kalimdor.

That's not unusual. Archaedas was studying the Earthen in Uldaman since they & the Earthen of Khaz Modan emerged, and that was only about 1000 years ago.