The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[production]

I've considered the possibility of Old Gods being transformed from something else, such as Naaru. Or that we've been altered to view them as slimeballs.

This would involve all those "sleepers shall awaken" lines.

But I'm not sure how it'd fit with general theme over the years, that the Light tends to aid Life and Order in various conflicts. They seem to be a bit aligned.

Would the Titans screw over the Naaru so badly?

They can go all in on the weird implications of the cosmic struggle before Azeroth is born/purified. (I assume the Worldsoul saga ends in some kind of semi-reset; the planet doesn't explode, but she at least rebukes all the god-beings that have been trying to capture her.)

Y'aga <Bestower of Mortality> shows up at the Temple of Storms to congratulate your raid group for beating up Norgannon, but Illidan blasts him with eyebeams mid-speech while the ghost of Sargeras nods approvingly.

Denathrius leads an army of Dreadlords to kill the moon, but he's revealed to be Sylvanas in disguise at their moment of triumph, and they all get killed by wisps. Eonar and Elune buy a practical ranch house.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

To me High Elves and Forest Trolls are the easiest of wins for Blizzard in Midnight.
The first requires almost no effort, the second we can assume will have to be developed anyway. The first is easily the most requested Alliance race, the second is probably top five Horde race (I assume Ogres are higher, Naga are probably quite high as well).

Give void elves some tattoos and a toggle for the purple effect and there high elves. There’s no need to add them as a race and cost the alliance a race slot while the horde get a new model with the bulky trolls.

[Nymrohd]

Give void elves some tattoos and a toggle for the purple effect and there high elves. There’s no need to add them as a race and cost the alliance a race slot while the horde get a new model with the bulky trolls.

And what would it be for the Alliance? I know so many different races I'd like to see in the Horde (they still don't even have Ogres!!!) but Alliance seems pretty damn complete.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

And what would it be for the Alliance? I know so many different races I'd like to see in the Horde (they still don't even have Ogres!!!) but Alliance seems pretty damn complete.

I like the pipe dream of Amani as natural, but that’s not very likely. But if there going with enemies to allies and links to elves the Naga seem like the obvious answer.

[Nymrohd]

I like the pipe dream of Amani as natural, but that’s not very likely. But if there going with enemies to allies and links to elves the Naga seem like the obvious answer.

The Revantusk forest trolls are already a Horde faction, just not playable

[Makabreska]

Not sure in what world Amain would join any player faction, considering we killed them in BC's Zul'Aman, Cata's Zul'Aman (so we sacked their capital twice) and MoP ToT.

Dunno, maybe some new lore happened in BfA, I never did the Horde side of the story.

[Ersula]

Not sure in what world Amain would join any player faction, considering we killed them in BC's Zul'Aman, Cata's Zul'Aman (so we sacked their capital twice) and MoP ToT.

Dunno, maybe some new lore happened in BfA, I never did the Horde side of the story.

That's true, though we also killed a lot of Zandalari & they're in the Horde now. The Zandalari called for a Worldwide Troll summit & discuss joining the horde. The Amani dismissed the idea immediately, the Gurubashi considered it but were experimented on by a Zandalari witch doctor, so dropped that idea & the Farraki acted like they were going to join before joining Zul's coup.

So it all depends on what the plot of the expansion is. Amani Likewise, people are talking about a single elf nation but that's pre-mature. I don't think everyone's moving into Silvermoon; I just think its going to feature the void elves, Silver Covenant, Sunreavers, Dark Rangers & Blood Knights all coming to silvermoon's defense due to some existential threat.

[Raetary]

Not sure in what world Amain would join any player faction, considering we killed them in BC's Zul'Aman, Cata's Zul'Aman (so we sacked their capital twice) and MoP ToT.

Dunno, maybe some new lore happened in BfA, I never did the Horde side of the story.

Whether the greater Amani tribe joins along is another question, but the Revantusk already stand with the Horde and have done so since cata.

[Cheezits]

Amani will be allies because they need to expand on Zulaman to be a zone for there to be enough variety in Quelthalas, and they won't do another genocide plot ever again. It's an easy in for more zone aesthetics that are actually in QT instead of the the fringe areas like Lordaeron/surprise naga zone/Karesh portal at launch.

[Ersula]

Whether the greater Amani tribe joins along is another question, but the Revantusk already stand with the Horde and have done so since cata.

That's part of the Tribes being less homogenous as time goes on. Revan were formerly Amani, but joining the Horde makes them not in the Amani empire anymore. Darkspear itself mainly consists of former Forest Trolls & Dark Trolls. (Darkspear are typically called Island Trolls, but Islands didn't exist before the Sundering so the Darkspear have this unique heritage of displacement)

[Nymrohd]

Not sure in what world Amain would join any player faction, considering we killed them in BC's Zul'Aman, Cata's Zul'Aman (so we sacked their capital twice) and MoP ToT.

Dunno, maybe some new lore happened in BfA, I never did the Horde side of the story.

Revantusk are probably the most successful Amani clan, they can end up being the ones who save the entire tribe. And with the Zandalari being part of the Horde, calling on the Revantusk to get the Forest trolls makes sense.

[Cheezits]

I hope they add big burly forms for the lady Amani/Drakkari too.

[Ersula]

Now that I think about it, the might use the contention for Amani Trolls joining either faction to have them be playable for both.

I was thinking about how they might differentiate Amani Trolls as a playable race, because they drastically developed the Zandalari aesthetic for BFA, so how about this....

Would you prefer playable Lightforged Amani Trolls or Void Amani Trolls?

[Cheezits]

I was thinking about how they might differentiate Amani Trolls as a playable race, because they drastically developed the Zandalari aesthetic for BFA, so how about this....

Would you prefer playable Lightforged Amani Trolls or Void Amani Trolls?

Or they go all in on the alpine woods theme with their respective loa. The dragonhawk one would be a big deal.

[Ersula]

Or they go all in on the alpine woods theme with their respective loa. The dragonhawk one would be a big deal.

That seems too similar to Darkspear no matter how they do it. The Darkspear & Amani are barely different, culturally.

[Cheezits]

That seems too similar to Darkspear no matter how they do it. The Darkspear & Amani are barely different, culturally.

All the trolls are very similar, and were especially so before the Zandalari revamp in Mists. Just revise their aesthetics to be woodland themed and give them some personality quirks, they don't have to be radically different. Already they will be different by virtue of having different body types (especially if they make a new bulky model for women).

[Joshuaj]

High Elf customizations already exist. Why make them a playable race?

[Khaza-R]

High Elf customizations already exist. Why make them a playable race?

It should not ever be a thing. But until blood elf or void elf players are able to have a meaningless race tag that says "high elf" it will be an on-going topic.

Which on the notion of race tags I don't think it would be a bad addition for RP purposes

Trolls already have shadow and sand troll sub species in their customization.

Humans now have Arathi as an option

BE and NE have darkfallen customizations

Maybe its time to allow for more race tags for RP and congruency purposes.

[Enrif]

High Elf customizations already exist. Why make them a playable race?

because the high elf customization for void elves is lack luster. Hairstyles are almost all designed with the tentacles, and you turn into void all the times. These two things need to be addressed and void elves are fine as a high elf substitute.

[Limayria]

It should not ever be a thing. But until blood elf or void elf players are able to have a meaningless race tag that says "high elf" it will be an on-going topic.

Which on the notion of race tags I don't think it would be a bad addition for RP purposes

Trolls already have shadow and sand troll sub species in their customization.

Humans now have Arathi as an option

BE and NE have darkfallen customizations

Maybe its time to allow for more race tags for RP and congruency purposes.

It'd be nice if they made distinct races for high elves and Arathi and such as a way to give us different body types, buff high elf woman and slender high elf man and Arathi could get the slender human model from kul tiras finally

Though I'd also settle for giving races more body types in general, at the very least a body type 2 with flat chest please