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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuaj View Post
    Also, Undermine is a steampunk goblin version of New York.
    > New York not being depressing
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    The frozen Mind cracks between the mineral staves which close upon it. The fault lies with your mouldy systems, your logic of 2 + 2 = 4.
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    WoW Goblins have always felt more like New Jersey to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    the character in the trailer could also be a void elf, they can have pale pinkish skin too for a while now
    Why are you all pretending Alleria won't be the character featured in the Midnight promotion.
    Quote Originally Posted by milkmustache View Post
    You can sort of be a High Elf like you could sort of be Mag'har with the brownest orc skin tone pre-BFA. Void Elves nor Blood Elves will ever be High Elves though because they will always have their racial RP in game, no matter what the player thinks. Some people truly want to play a High Elf in that sense.
    This is also reductive. The Developers have directly stated Void elves & Blood elves are high elves. Still asking for High Elves after everything they've already given the two high elf races is like asking for an entirely new playable race of mag'har to represent ones from Outland instead of Draenor. It's ridiculous.

  4. #82464
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    This is also reductive. The Developers have directly stated Void elves & Blood elves are high elves. Still asking for High Elves after everything they've already given the two high elf races is like asking for an entirely new playable race of mag'har to represent ones from Outland instead of Draenor. It's ridiculous.
    No, I genuinely think that they are going to do something with Blood Elves/Void Elves and make them into a neutral Thalassian race that starts off in New Quel'thalas and picks a faction (Quel'dorei/Sin'dorei) in the story. Old Velves/Belves will probably be untouched, somehow, while new Thalassians will follow this path.

    There is WAY too much red tape around "White Elves" in Warcraft for casual players and Blizzard is just going to free it up by letting people go Ally/Horde with no void or fel/light baggage. Also makes the expansion faction agnostic instead of just Lol Horde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    There is WAY too much red tape around "White Elves" in Warcraft for casual players and Blizzard is just going to free it up by letting people go Ally/Horde with no void or fel/light baggage. Also makes the expansion faction agnostic instead of just Lol Horde.
    Surely, Blizzard has not given enough screentime to the Alliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AOL Instant Messenger View Post
    Surely, Blizzard has not given enough screentime to the Alliance.
    While TWW is BASICALLY Alliance with the kinds of races that appear, it still isn't literally just Alliance. QT expansion without getting into Gilneas/Arathi would actually be one faction's areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Why are you all pretending Alleria won't be the character featured in the Midnight promotion.
    They're not talking about future promotion. They're explicitly mentioning the housing teaser we already have, which featured a male Elf in an Alliance house (with, at the very least, a hair style that Void Elves don't seem to have).


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    I don't think the random test character in the housing trailer is a sign one way or the other of changes to how the races are. Its just an early trailer.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I'd like VElves removed from the game and replaced by HElves, but I'm pretty sure its just a test character and not a sign they're changing how the BElves and VElves work

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    I read the wowhead article on the latest Exploring Azeroth book. It mentions that the Shrine of the Storm and Old God altars have been cleansed of corruption.
    But does the book make any mention of what happened to the Crucible of Storms after N'zoth's defeat? Surely there should either be an Old God corpse still directly under the Shrine of the Storm, or a giant cavern if N'zoth moved his whole body into Ny'alotha, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecheon View Post
    I don't think the random test character in the housing trailer is a sign one way or the other of changes to how the races are. Its just an early trailer.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I'd like VElves removed from the game and replaced by HElves, but I'm pretty sure its just a test character and not a sign they're changing how the BElves and VElves work
    And he is also using the rogue Artifact appearence for the HD thunderfury .... going with that logic they are removing the class restrictions from them aswell (or allowing rogues to transmog warrior locked plate).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    Definitely! Large, uninteresting cave system with random shit thrown in to slow down the main story and give Blizzard a breather.

    I'm half-kidding but really, both places seem equally depressing to me. Not quite Korthia levels though.


    Goblin content is a lot of things, but depressing isn't one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post


    Goblin content is a lot of things, but depressing isn't one of them.
    I'd say Kezan, Bilgewater harbour and the Motherlode did not exactly look glamorous.

  13. #82473
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldryth View Post
    They're not talking about future promotion. They're explicitly mentioning the housing teaser we already have, which featured a male Elf in an Alliance house (with, at the very least, a hair style that Void Elves don't seem to have).
    Do you really think they'd give player housing but also restrict customization by race? That would piss housing people off more than giving them nothing at all. (Housing is definitely going to be warband bound so it won't be racially or faction restricted)

    Please tell me you all don't think wow housing will be non-instanced like FFXIV? A feature revolving around furniture items less than 5000 players can actually participate in because of lot space restrictions. The worst mmo feature ever designed.
    Last edited by Ersula; 2024-12-04 at 12:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Not sure why, but goblins just don't excite me at all. Their run-down industrial theme annoys me more than some people were upset about draenei and their 'space ships'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Why are you all pretending Alleria won't be the character featured in the Midnight promotion.
    This was about the male elf in the remade warrior t2 for the housing trailer. There was no alleria in it
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Why are you all pretending Alleria won't be the character featured in the Midnight promotion.
    This is also reductive. The Developers have directly stated Void elves & Blood elves are high elves. Still asking for High Elves after everything they've already given the two high elf races is like asking for an entirely new playable race of mag'har to represent ones from Outland instead of Draenor. It's ridiculous.
    Many people on this forum only play elves / only want elf lore / complain when elves arent always winning / want more elf hero classes like Alleria void hunter.

    Being racist towards WoWs fantasy races are a compromise for being IRL racist. Why are the blue eyed blond haired skinny white elves the most popular requested race in WoW by far?
    Last edited by Al Gorefiend; 2024-12-04 at 01:42 PM.

  17. #82477
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    [img]Goblin content is a lot of things, but depressing isn't one of them.
    He says while showing all the worst excesses of capitalism.

    Some people find that quite depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Gorefiend View Post
    Many people on this forum only play elves / only want elf lore / complain when elves arent always winning / want more elf hero classes like Alleria void hunter.

    Being racist towards WoWs fantasy races are a compromise for being IRL racist. Why are the blue eyed blond haired skinny white elves the most popular requested race in WoW by far?
    I'd say part of that is because the high elf fantasy has been one of the main alliance fantasies since W2 and it was given to the horde in the form of Blood Elves, so there's been that desire to finally get that part of the alliance back in WoW, and void elves look like an undesired compromise from a time when blizzard didn't care about the fans (BFA - SL). Midnight is the last time where it'd make sense to get playable HE, with new features like tattoos and new customization, or they could just add it to void/BE and merge both races into a neutral, HE race for both factions.

    Other than that, the alliance does not have many other desired playable races outside niche stuff which tends to be VERY ugly races, like Broken, Ginyu or Furbolgs. This is because blizzard tends to create new monster and tribalistic races, which make more sense for the horde (Zandalari, Vulpera, Centaur, Sethrak, Taunka...), and the small exceptions where they create new civilised races that would make more sense in the alliance, they either go horde anyway (Nightborne), go neutral (Earthen, Pandaren), or are just a different faction of an existing race, too similar to add as a new race (Arathi).
    Last edited by allegrian; 2024-12-04 at 02:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    He says while showing all the worst excesses of capitalism.

    Some people find that quite depressing.
    Greed is good!

    Quote Originally Posted by DelusionalBear View Post
    Not sure why, but goblins just don't excite me at all. Their run-down industrial theme annoys me more than some people were upset about draenei and their 'space ships'.
    I personally love it. It's a nice change of pace from magical stuff all the time.

  20. #82480
    Quote Originally Posted by Al Gorefiend View Post
    Being racist towards WoWs fantasy races are a compromise for being IRL racist.
    You must have absolutely despised fantasy stories, including WoW lore...
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