The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[vintage79]

I can't believe how much blizzard is detached from its community and what blizz 'creates' by themselves - there's nothing to think about, and of course 99% of the community want papa blizz to FINALLY add the tinker class to the game. This is the last class that is lore-wise from the times of the RTS warcraft game and which is still not in WoW. The next big patch is about the city of goblins - tinkers - it's the perfect time to create a starting zone and place them in the 'current' lore.

[Teriz]

The custom part for Tinkers made me think there will be customizable/selectable skins for different tech to represent the different races.

If its taking a page from Hearthstone, it's probably a set number of combinations that lead to a certain ability.

For example, there's probably option 1 where you choose three things (6 possible options) Example: Robot mobility (legs, treads, spider walker, etc)
Then there's option 2 where you choose three more things. (6 possible options) Example: Weapon systems (Guns, Missiles, Flame throwers, etc.)
Then there's option 3 where you choose three more things. (6 possible options) Example: Additional effect (Explodes when expires, Poisons target, AoE heal, etc.)

Your choices create a varied (yet controlled) outcome that still gives you the sense of randomness. Personally those are some of my favorite cards in Hearthstone.

[Trazzle]

I can't believe how much blizzard is detached from its community and what blizz 'creates' by themselves - there's nothing to think about, and of course 99% of the community want papa blizz to FINALLY add the tinker class to the game. This is the last class that is lore-wise from the times of the RTS warcraft game and which is still not in WoW. The next big patch is about the city of goblins - tinkers - it's the perfect time to create a starting zone and place them in the 'current' lore.

Preach it brother! Machine Speakers rise up!

[Ersula]

Not quite sure y'all get the point of the whole "seventh power" build up...

I don't think something mentioned once at the moment of an unpopular villains death counts as a build up. The "Seventh Power" is correctly filed in the big folder of probably forgotten unresolved plotpoints.

Tinker and Artificer should be combined into 1 class. And they should add new weapon type of pistols and hand-crossbows (1H ranged weapons) and give it to Tinkers, Hunters and Rogues. Making a new class based purely on guns is weird, because we already have MM Hunters.
Bard option also sounds fun, but I would prefer Tinker.

Everything else is kinda lame.

I'm guessing the second tier of potential "classes" are actually ideas for hero talents. Bard, Tinker, Pistol-based class & blatant-rippoff-of-a-ffxiv class are what people have been asking for for years.

[Joshuaj]

I don't think something mentioned once at the moment of an unpopular villains death counts as a build up. The "Seventh Power" is correctly filed in the big folder of probably forgotten unresolved plotpoints.I'm guessing the second tier of potential "classes" are actually ideas for hero talents. Bard, Tinker, Pistol-based class & blatant-rippoff-of-a-ffxiv class are what people have been asking for for years.

You do realize it was talked about prior to even SL, yeah? Like you can argue the build up started as early as Legion.

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Or would it be considered cheating to bring up the crooked serpent stuff?

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Also, the Seventh Power is something that's only STARTED to be properly discussed in SL. The mystery of this power, alongside the mystery of the Progenitors as a whole, is meant to last for quite a while. Blizzard did not expect players to solve said mysteries in Eternity's End.

However, what Blizzard doesn't know is this...

I'm not like "most players"! I'm different! I know things! I study things (both past and present)! I speculate future events! I solve mysteries! I unlock secrets! I reveal the truth! And above all else? I plan ahead with this knowledge! I'm aware! I've transcended!

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Of course, that doesn't mean I'm immune to being wrong. I've been wrong before (Such as me assuming we'd go to the Realm of Life in SL, or me assuming Zereth Mortis could be in the Domain of Life, which was absolutely wrong of me to say, and looking back, I feel silly assuming that lol).

But I learn, and I evolve.

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And before you all say it...

Is it really an ego if what I speculated regarding the origins of the Warcraft Universe has proven true for the most part, and all those that disagreed with me have been put in the fucking dirt?

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I deserve this small bit of self-glazing.

[Chickat]

11.1 giving ZARALEK CAVERN VIBES??? Seriously???

Its giving Nazjatar vibes to me.

[Joshuaj]

Its giving Nazjatar vibes to me.

I can agree to that.

[Chickat]

I can agree to that.

Im going off pure vibes, but im guessing its going to be the best patch since 8.2. Purely from an outdoor zone perspective.

[TeslaLee]

Tinker! it will match perfectly with the Mimiron expansion (The Last Titan), and a new tank is also needed in the game. Tinker class has several possibilities, imagine putting a Tesla coil in the battle compo, controlling drones, laser, mecha, holograms, bombs, turrets, creating an energy cage, etc... I really wanted to see this class in action.

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The Tinker class offers enormous potential for creating a unique and fun gaming experience. With good design and balancing, it can become one of the pillars of any MMORPG.

[milkmustache]

Wow. Okay.

Anyway,

Tinker! it will match perfectly with the Mimiron expansion (The Last Titan), and a new tank is also needed in the game. Tinker class has several possibilities, imagine putting a Tesla coil in the battle compo, controlling drones, laser, mecha, holograms, bombs, turrets, creating an energy cage, etc... I really wanted to see this class in action.

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The Tinker class offers enormous potential for creating a unique and fun gaming experience. With good design and balancing, it can become one of the pillars of any MMORPG.

I completely agree. I'm honestly a bit surprised we're not seeing a tinker class here in Khaz Algar, especially considering we're visiting Undermine this expansion. The machine speakers and goblin cartels are enough to justify it.

I'm interested the route in which it's taken if it comes about, though. There are a lot of different techs that seem to be tied to race Draenei, Mag'har, Goblins, Gnomes, Mechagnomes, Nightborne, Blood Elves, Dwarves and Earthen all have their own distinct flairs. Is it racially based in aesthetic, or will they make it Titan material based

[Trazzle]

My copium fever dreams are still hyped for a 11.1.X Tinker class release… it has to be happening… right?!?! Ha

It’s just such a perfect storm of content. I’ll be thrilled to have a tech class if/when it’s released but it’ll feel EXTREMELY weird to go through this xpac without a tech class. Unless this is only the beginning and it’s about to get a lot more techy.

[Edlarel]

I'm interested the route in which it's taken if it comes about, though. There are a lot of different techs that seem to be tied to race Draenei, Mag'har, Goblins, Gnomes, Mechagnomes, Nightborne, Blood Elves, Dwarves and Earthen all have their own distinct flairs. Is it racially based in aesthetic, or will they make it Titan material based

If they did it, they could do each race with the option is like druid and gets their own aesthetic. Then, the "hero talents" are the titan tech, fel tech, light tech stuff. Then titan/light can go to tank; titan/fel can go to dps, and light/fel can go to "ranged dps" or support.

This would also explain why we wouldn't see it until end of Midnight/beginning of Last titan. To align with the hero talents. From a design standpoint, it's a lot of assets just like druid.

[milkmustache]

If they did it, they could do each race with the option is like druid and gets their own aesthetic. Then, the "hero talents" are the titan tech, fel tech, light tech stuff. Then titan/light can go to tank; titan/fel can go to dps, and light/fel can go to "ranged dps" or support.

This would also explain why we wouldn't see it until end of Midnight/beginning of Last titan. To align with the hero talents. From a design standpoint, it's a lot of assets just like druid.

This is possible, but the thing that comes to mine is the lack of class expansion for paladins, shamans and druids solely because of art assets. I would hope they allow customization based on racial aesthetics, but I think they'd need to hurdle the classes that are already there.

My copium fever dreams are still hyped for a 11.1.X Tinker class release… it has to be happening… right?!?! Ha

It’s just such a perfect storm of content. I’ll be thrilled to have a tech class if/when it’s released but it’ll feel EXTREMELY weird to go through this xpac without a tech class. Unless this is only the beginning and it’s about to get a lot more techy.

Entering this expansion, I think it would've made sense that there isn't a Tinker class, but the further we get I'm more confused. Even the Arathi are pretty tech based. This is the perfect opportunity for it, and if we assume 12.0 will have a Void based class, then we either see it in 13.0 or never.

[Foolicious]

Tinker! it will match perfectly with the Mimiron expansion (The Last Titan), and a new tank is also needed in the game. Tinker class has several possibilities, imagine putting a Tesla coil in the battle compo, controlling drones, laser, mecha, holograms, bombs, turrets, creating an energy cage, etc... I really wanted to see this class in action.

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The Tinker class offers enormous potential for creating a unique and fun gaming experience. With good design and balancing, it can become one of the pillars of any MMORPG.

Makes sense that they would have a tank spec from a design perspective, but wow really doesn't "need" a new tank.

I can just recommend to look up the engineer from guild wars 2. The base class is a bit bland and nothing special to be honest, but the hero specs scrapper and holosmith are great. Mechanist are fun, but i hope they don't get inspired by them and turn the mech into a pet. I think this would piss off a lot of people. Me included and im not even a huge tinker enthusiast.

[Teriz]

I completely agree. I'm honestly a bit surprised we're not seeing a tinker class here in Khaz Algar, especially considering we're visiting Undermine this expansion. The machine speakers and goblin cartels are enough to justify it.

I'm interested the route in which it's taken if it comes about, though. There are a lot of different techs that seem to be tied to race Draenei, Mag'har, Goblins, Gnomes, Mechagnomes, Nightborne, Blood Elves, Dwarves and Earthen all have their own distinct flairs. Is it racially based in aesthetic, or will they make it Titan material based

Quite likely it's going to be similar to Mimiron-tech, since it's titan-based and rides the line of Gnome, Goblin, and Earthen.

[TeslaLee]

Makes sense that they would have a tank spec from a design perspective, but wow really doesn't "need" a new tank.

I can just recommend to look up the engineer from guild wars 2. The base class is a bit bland and nothing special to be honest, but the hero specs scrapper and holosmith are great. Mechanist are fun, but i hope they don't get inspired by them and turn the mech into a pet. I think this would piss off a lot of people. Me included and im not even a huge tinker enthusiast.

I understand sir! The point is that I see the tinker class with a wide range of possibilities, not only placing towers, you know, but... imagine putting a tesla coil in the battle composition to buff, control drones, laser weapons, mecha (like in the movie Pacific Rim), holograms, bombs, robots, create an energy cage, plasma pulse, etc...

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Wow. Okay.

Anyway,



I completely agree. I'm honestly a bit surprised we're not seeing a tinker class here in Khaz Algar, especially considering we're visiting Undermine this expansion. The machine speakers and goblin cartels are enough to justify it.

I'm interested the route in which it's taken if it comes about, though. There are a lot of different techs that seem to be tied to race Draenei, Mag'har, Goblins, Gnomes, Mechagnomes, Nightborne, Blood Elves, Dwarves and Earthen all have their own distinct flairs. Is it racially based in aesthetic, or will they make it Titan material based

In fact, the tinker's gang was supposed to arrive at BFA along with the mechagnomes to give the story a plot.

[Holdodlig]

The class pool from that survey is oriented around mech / titan / Azeroth's primitive side. So it's likely for The Last Titans, and it might reveal what's in store for the expansion's patchs.

[Ersula]

Makes sense that they would have a tank spec from a design perspective, but wow really doesn't "need" a new tank.

Haven't you heard? TWW tank specs suck right now.

Its giving Nazjatar vibes to me.

I hope not, because Zaralek & Najatar were both shit tiers.

[milkmustache]

The class pool from that survey is oriented around mech / titan / Azeroth's primitive side. So it's likely for The Last Titans, and it might reveal what's in store for the expansion's patchs.

I imagine it's far too late in the process for Midnight to be taking surveys on hypothetical new classes. If we're getting one, it's already far down the pipeline. This is certainly for TLT, but it seems pretty thin on revealing anything; alot of Titan and stellar themed classes amongst the usual suspects.

One that I think may have the most of an eyebrow raise is Titankiller, but it's descriptive pairing with Sargeras kind of halts an further conspiring. I think it would be a really cool hero class, but I'm not sure how much they could develop it. Prismatic also seems to have some interesting notes in the description, particularly the Titans association with the cosmic powers.

[Holdodlig]

I imagine it's far too late in the process for Midnight to be taking surveys on hypothetical new classes. If we're getting one, it's already far down the pipeline. This is certainly for TLT, but it seems pretty thin on revealing anything; alot of Titan and stellar themed classes amongst the usual suspects.

One that I think may have the most of an eyebrow raise is Titankiller, but it's descriptive pairing with Sargeras kind of halts an further conspiring. I think it would be a really cool hero class, but I'm not sure how much they could develop it. Prismatic also seems to have some interesting notes in the description, particularly the Titans association with the cosmic powers.

Titankiller would be really cool yeah, having the balance of what's basically demonic vs some val'kyr / titan watcher spec is really hyping me. I also love the Witch concept of having old ways of casting spells. Would be a clever mix of shaman, mage and druid. But witch is a shitty name.