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    Several of these would absolutely work as Hero Talents tbh. E.g. Titankiller would easily work as a warrior hero Talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Several of these would absolutely work as Hero Talents tbh. E.g. Titankiller would easily work as a warrior hero Talent.
    Titankiller strikes me as a hero talent or end talent for Fury Warriors. Sort of an extension of their passive ability Titan's Grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Several of these would absolutely work as Hero Talents tbh. E.g. Titankiller would easily work as a warrior hero Talent.
    Outside of tinker, all of those classes could work as hero talent. Gunslinger would make a great addition to rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Haven't you heard? TWW tank specs suck right now.
    And adding more isn't going to affect that in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Titankiller strikes me as a hero talent or end talent for Fury Warriors. Sort of an extension of their passive ability Titan's Grip.
    Not a fan of the name Titankiller ...

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    Yeah now that people mention it, a fair number do sound like hero specs, and it would make sense to add in new ones during the Worldsoul Saga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    And adding more isn't going to affect that in any way.
    I don't know, being a Goblin or Gnome inside a mech shooting monsters in the face while tanking sounds more fun than the standard sword/board tanking we got currently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I don't know, being a Goblin or Gnome inside a mech shooting monsters in the face while tanking sounds more fun than the standard sword/board tanking we got currently.
    I think it certainly expands upon the fantasy. Tinker would be a massive addition to the rotation and build upon the uniqueness of WoW's world.

    I wonder if there's a possibility for a mech as tank, something like Brinthe's backpack for a DPS, and something else for healer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkmustache View Post
    I think it certainly expands upon the fantasy. Tinker would be a massive addition to the rotation and build upon the uniqueness of WoW's world.

    I wonder if there's a possibility for a mech as tank, something like Brinthe's backpack for a DPS, and something else for healer.
    The survey specifically mentioned mech suits for tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merryck View Post
    Not a fan of the name Titankiller ...
    Titankiller was just my translation. Can as likely by translated as Titanslayer, or any other word in that vain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The survey specifically mentioned mech suits for tanking.
    Not specifically for tanking. Just "controlling mech-suits". While it is likely to align with tanking, it could also be used in a dps spec. i imagine it to be a cooldown like the DH metamorphosis, something that isn't active all the time, and they can use it for a DPS and Tanking spec with different designs for each spec
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    Not specifically for tanking. Just "controlling mech-suits". While it is likely to align with tanking, it could also be used in a dps spec. i imagine it to be a cooldown like the DH metamorphosis, something that isn't active all the time, and they can use it for a DPS and Tanking spec with different designs for each spec
    I have a feeling it's going to be both. DPS will likely have mechs on cooldowns, while the tanking spec has it as a toggle, like the Tinker hero from WC3. I would love it if Blizzard brought back MoP/WoD Demonology-style mechanics for the DPS Tinker where you build a resource, summon the mech suit, and the suit lasts as long as the resource level is up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I don't know, being a Goblin or Gnome inside a mech shooting monsters in the face while tanking sounds more fun than the standard sword/board tanking we got currently.

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    Meh. None of the others had a significant impact, this won't either. It's not about the fantasy, many people just don't want to tank and your main target group would be people playing different tank specs currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Meh. None of the others had a significant impact, this won't either. It's not about the fantasy, many people just don't want to tank and your main target group would be people playing different tank specs currently.
    I believe none of the others had any significant impact because they weren't significantly different than what we had at the time. We either have the plate tanks with swords and shields, or we have the agility-based tanks who all happen to wear leather and have creative ways to dodge.

    A Tinker tank could offer something different than either, since it wouldn't be swinging a sword, and it won't be dodging stuff. And like I said; there's something satisfying about shooting stuff in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I believe none of the others had any significant impact because they weren't significantly different than what we had at the time. We either have the plate tanks with swords and shields, or we have the agility-based tanks who all happen to wear leather and have creative ways to dodge.

    A Tinker tank could offer something different than either, since it wouldn't be swinging a sword, and it won't be dodging stuff. And like I said; there's something satisfying about shooting stuff in the face.
    It will not work fundamentally different from existing tank specs.

    Your expectations are purely based on personal emotional responses. That's you, not the players in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Haven't you heard? TWW tank specs suck right now. I hope not, because Zaralek & Najatar were both shit tiers.
    Nazjatar second best zone they ever made behind Argus. Patch zone that is. Suramar is number 1 if you count it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    It will not work fundamentally different from existing tank specs.

    Your expectations are purely based on personal emotional responses. That's you, not the players in general.
    Mechs, Guns, explosives, and robotic summons are fundamentally different than current tank specs.

    It's not expectations based on emotional responses, it's the nature of the class concept and the theme/abilities it would carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I believe none of the others had any significant impact because they weren't significantly different than what we had at the time. We either have the plate tanks with swords and shields, or we have the agility-based tanks who all happen to wear leather and have creative ways to dodge.

    A Tinker tank could offer something different than either, since it wouldn't be swinging a sword, and it won't be dodging stuff. And like I said; there's something satisfying about shooting stuff in the face.
    Death Knight is neither an agility based tank, nor a shields tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Mechs, Guns, explosives, and robotic summons are fundamentally different than current tank specs.

    It's not expectations based on emotional responses, it's the nature of the class concept and the theme/abilities it would carry.
    We have 0 information how a tinker will look like in action. From the the text, it could be a amalgam of Demon Hunter and Druid that uses a change shape for their mech, the constructs can work similar to the death knight undead minion or the monk celestial summons. Guns for a tank are just a ranged option like warriors throw weapon.

    So, basically, just like all the other tanks, just with the theme and flavor of tinker.
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    On Hero Talents vs Classes some could even be Hero Talents of others that are classes; e.g. you could have a Tinker class and an Artificer Hero Talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    On Hero Talents vs Classes some could even be Hero Talents of others that are classes; e.g. you could have a Tinker class and an Artificer Hero Talent.
    That could be plausible for some of the vaguer concepts listed there, like Gunner and Gunslingers absolutely sound like two parts of the same thing (or maybe one of them could be Tinker's dps spec?). But Artificer and Tinker are some of the more detailed things there. It looks more like they have two ideas for a tech-focused class and are trying to figure out which one would be better received.

    I expect we'll get one of them or Bard in TLT if the survey is real, they're some of the more popular requests out there and their descriptions are way more fleshed out than most of the other options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldryth View Post
    That could be plausible for some of the vaguer concepts listed there, like Gunner and Gunslingers absolutely sound like two parts of the same thing (or maybe one of them could be Tinker's dps spec?). But Artificer and Tinker are some of the more detailed things there. It looks more like they have two ideas for a tech-focused class and are trying to figure out which one would be better received.

    I expect we'll get one of them or Bard in TLT if the survey is real, they're some of the more popular requests out there and their descriptions are way more fleshed out than most of the other options.
    I mean Gunner could be a Tinker spec or Hero Talent, Gunslinger could be made into a Rogue Hero Talent easily.

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