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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    They're not going to pull Dark Rangers off of Hunters. In addition, the Hunter class has Windrunner abilities in its talent tree.

    If they make an Alleria class, it's going to be entirely based on her and the void. The question is if that's enough to create a class around? The void can be expansive, but tends to get limited when applied to more martial classes.
    The class and/or Sylvanas spec would be called something else. Hopefully they wouldn't do a metamorphosis warlock thing again.

    I am not so sure it would be an Alleria class when Sylvanas is much more popular and they seem to be building up Vereesa for something, to the point they flat out refuse to have her appear in TWW.

    "Windrunner Class" makes way more sense IMO. Spellbow? Ranger? Farstrider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Astromancer isn't currently available? WTF is balance druid with those stars and moons then?
    Not Astromancer? It's Arcane and Nature magic for the Druid archetype. All aspects of astromancy have been divided into different classes: priest, mage, druid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    The class and/or Sylvanas spec would be called something else. Hopefully they wouldn't do a metamorphosis warlock thing again.

    I am not so sure it would be an Alleria class when Sylvanas is much more popular and they seem to be building up Vereesa for something, to the point they flat out refuse to have her appear in TWW.

    "Windrunner Class" makes way more sense IMO. Spellbow? Ranger? Farstrider?
    Can even be a two spec class. One ranged and one melee spec. Move dark ranger hero talent to this ranger, and add a void themed one too. There are many routes they can go with it. I personally see a three spec class, with at least one heal/buff spec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    The class and/or Sylvanas spec would be called something else. Hopefully they wouldn't do a metamorphosis warlock thing again.

    I am not so sure it would be an Alleria class when Sylvanas is much more popular and they seem to be building up Vereesa for something, to the point they flat out refuse to have her appear in TWW.

    "Windrunner Class" makes way more sense IMO. Spellbow? Ranger? Farstrider?
    Wonder what Vereesa would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    The class and/or Sylvanas spec would be called something else. Hopefully they wouldn't do a metamorphosis warlock thing again.

    I am not so sure it would be an Alleria class when Sylvanas is much more popular and they seem to be building up Vereesa for something, to the point they flat out refuse to have her appear in TWW.

    "Windrunner Class" makes way more sense IMO. Spellbow? Ranger? Farstrider?
    There are Silver Covenant Spellbows in Thunder Isle, so it's not without precedent.

    A new class using bows would be very welcome, but not sure I like all 3 specs using bows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Why not? We've seen a ton of new melee void animations in TWW in addition to Alleria's ranged ones. There's plenty to work with without getting in priest's way at all since priest is never going to be using bows or melee attacks.
    Because Dark Ranger was in a similar position to where Alleria currently is, and Blizzard folded that entire concept into a hero talent tree. Frankly Dark Ranger had an even stronger basis to become a class because we had multiple variations of Dark Rangers (Sylvanas, Nathanos, Moonwarden, Summermoon, Shadestalker, etc.) to utilize for a class. Not to mention all that BS Sylvanas was doing with her phantom swords and chains in BFA.

    Sylvanas was a far more popular character than Alleria to boot.

    So yeah, I'm a little skeptical that Blizzard is going to do more with less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polybius View Post
    Wonder what Vereesa would be.
    Think Tyrande and the Priestesses of the moon. Arcane ranged healer/buffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polybius View Post
    Wonder what Vereesa would be.
    Arcane. Hits the Helf and Nelf/Nightborne niches. Or the general ranger vs Void and Death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    There are Silver Covenant Spellbows in Thunder Isle, so it's not without precedent.

    A new class using bows would be very welcome, but not sure I like all 3 specs using bows.
    If that's true, and they are being so weird with Vereesa (of the Silver Covenant), I am really starting to think Spellbow specifically is likely.

    Hopefully not a hero class restricted to the elves but could be. Maybe open race hero class?

    Vereesa would be the Class Character while Alleria is.... occupied.... and Sylvanas isn't there at the start of the expansion. But there would be Alleria and Sylvanas powers available because of the races in this class order (Velves and Darkfallen)
    Last edited by Cheezits; 2024-12-17 at 04:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polybius View Post
    Not Astromancer? It's Arcane and Nature magic for the Druid archetype. All aspects of astromancy have been divided into different classes: priest, mage, druid.
    Balance is a Sun/Moon An'she/Elune spec with stars and moons that balances between Solar and Lunar energy. I don't see how an Astrologian would be significantly different. Mechanically that's Nature and Arcane, but it's all space magic thematically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Arcane. Hits the Helf and Nelf/Nightborne niches. Or the general ranger vs Void and Death.

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    If that's true, and they are being so weird with Vereesa (of the Silver Covenant), I am really starting to think Spellbow specifically is likely.

    Hopefully not a hero class restricted to the elves but could be. Maybe open race hero class?
    https://www.wowhead.com/npc=68043/si...ities;mode:lfr

    I don't know why wowhead doesn't list their abilities. I know they have some kind of arcane shot, but I can't get out there to test at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Astromancer isn't currently available? WTF is balance druid with those stars and moons then?
    The only one on that list that is both actually an archetype and completely inaccessible is Bard. Night Warrior is just getting overfilled with Elune's power and has no real definition beyond that.

    Tinker/Artificer is effectively Engineering as a class, Necromancer is covered by DK and Dark Ranger is a Hunter Hero talent tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Tinker/Artificer is effectively Engineering as a class
    Which makes it an inaccessible archetype, since Engineering is a crafting profession incapable of performing class functions.

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    Also: making Vereesa the Illidan for a unified elven-based ranger unit would be a good way to make people give a shit about her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Also: making Vereesa the Illidan for a unified elven-based ranger unit would be a good way to make people give a shit about her.
    I'm still expecting Arator to be killed and Alleria to succumb to madness leaving Vereesa as the only Windrunner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polybius View Post
    Not Astromancer? It's Arcane and Nature magic for the Druid archetype. All aspects of astromancy have been divided into different classes: priest, mage, druid.
    With >70% going to Balance Druid specificially. I'd even contend that Priests don't actually have any of it; their Void magic superficially looks similar but is unrelated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Which makes it an inaccessible archetype, since Engineering is a crafting profession incapable of performing class functions.
    Not what inaccessible means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    I'm still expecting Arator to be killed and Alleria to succumb to madness leaving Vereesa as the only Windrunner.
    I'm not sure about dead Arator so soon (especially as the probable child of light and void) but I do expect Alleria to be incapacitated/against us at around the same time Vereesa appears and takes focus. Which would explain why she is currently hidden away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Not what inaccessible means.
    If there's no technology class, then it's an inaccessible class archetype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Well the Demon Hunter Theras had the ability as well;

    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Theras

    Hopefully he meets your standards.
    Hm yet another random NPC. Hey at least that’s a named NPC this time. Still not a playable ability for DHs & the NPC is from 2007.

    I think it’s still likely spellbreakers are coming in a new class in some way. Why else would Blizz refuse to add the long-requested spellbreaker weapons to the game?
    They even outright removed the nightborne one from the PTR before legion timewalking first went life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Uh Demon Hunters literally had an ability called Spellbreaker.

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    What if the class was LITERALLY called Windrunner??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    The class and/or Sylvanas spec would be called something else. Hopefully they wouldn't do a metamorphosis warlock thing again.

    I am not so sure it would be an Alleria class when Sylvanas is much more popular and they seem to be building up Vereesa for something, to the point they flat out refuse to have her appear in TWW.

    "Windrunner Class" makes way more sense IMO. Spellbow? Ranger? Farstrider?
    You wouldn't call the Sylvanas spec "Dark Ranger"? What abilities would you populate the spec with? You kind of got to have the iconic abilities like Black or Wailing Arrow in there or you're wasting your time and people are going to think its a generic knockoff of the real deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    What if the class was LITERALLY called Windrunner??
    And each talent specialization is the name of a Windrunner family member? Can't wait to see all the Vereesa spec Windrunner DPS players running around, or the Alleria melee build.

    Perhaps a dead spec called Lirath that sees no play whatsoever.

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