The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Khaza-R]

My money is on Dragonblight being caved in by Iridikron and/or Odyn to reveal Azjol Nerub and the path of the titans.

No way will they focus on Dragonblight after Dragonflight.

Halls of Valor will reconnect with Ulduar to make one big Ulduar zone/raid in Storm Peaks.

Also something crazy will happen in Borean Tundra because it's kind of a mess and also boring.

I think Icecrown is the mostly like candidate to get destroyed. Just because ICC is rather massive and I doubt it being relevent yet again after SLs

Agree with you on Dragonblight

I think Crystalsong will expand and become a larger area

The only two zones I think they'll keep mostly the same are Howling Fjord and Grizzly Hills.

I don't think we'll have nerubians as a central antagonist twice in the Saga

I don't think they would be central antagonists. But I definitely expect a small story where the Kaheti Nerubians help their breathren retake Azjol'Nerub

[Nymrohd]

I don't think we'll have nerubians as a central antagonist twice in the Saga

The Nerubians in Azjol'Nerub are already friendly with us. They could be a faction that supports us as we try to get to Iridikron's lair

[Kiivar86]

At the bare minimum, I expect an instance for Harrowsdeep, Iridikron's ancient lair, but I honestly expect a full zone of it. It'd be underneath the Storm Peaks pretty much. The tech for Zaralek (and the TWW zones) would work well for it. It is described as a pretty massive network of tunnels and chambers. I could even see it connecting into Ulduar, too.

[Cheezits]

Oh, maybe Odyn and the bad keepers will knock down ICC and plug the "Jailer hole" with Ulduar to directly manipulate the worldsoul?

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Sholazar is really the odd one out in Northrend.

So just remove it.

Wait, what? You want to delete my favorite zone? It's out of the question!
Have you thought about the Wolvars who live there? The poor things...

similar, but i think something along those lines is more likely
Biggest change to your: I think Stormpeaks and Zul'drak might be working together as one zone, if we assume the machinery below stormpeaks gets activated and cuases massive avalanches down into zul'drak. And Thus Stormpeaks will be the "ulduar" zone

Oh yes, it works pretty well that way too. But I think Ulduar really deserves its zone.

I guess we'll know when we see how they approach the Quel'Thalas areas in Midnight.

My money is on Dragonblight being caved in by Iridikron and/or Odyn to reveal Azjol Nerub and the path of the titans.

Didn't Iridikron have an underground base there? Some sort of gallery riddled with traps?

No way will they focus on Dragonblight after Dragonflight.

Why? It would be interesting to see the development of the dragons in this region. Given their connection with the Titans and the fact that this is their former home, they'll probably be relevant.

Halls of Valor will reconnect with Ulduar to make one big Ulduar zone/raid in Storm Peaks.

While I think it's a cool idea, I don't think Odyn would do that. But who knows.

Also something crazy will happen in Borean Tundra because it's kind of a mess and also boring.

Especially boring lmao. Maybe goblins and gnomes will have a stronger presence. Some new cities maybe ?

While it might be a long shot. I do have faith in the idea of the Argent Crusade citadel that was supposed to be built in Icecrown.
Would obviously require some light retcons given we didn't see it during the SL pre-patch, as well as it not being mentioned since. But it would be neat regardless.
Could easily just expand the Argent Crusade hub that was used during ICC levelling as well. It's central, and its basically the size of an expansion hub anyways.

I hadn't thought of that, but it's a good idea. Would it be justifiable? Given that we've put an end to the great Scourge threat in SL...

[Sondrelk]

I hadn't thought of that, but it's a good idea. Would it be justifiable? Given that we've put an end to the great Scourge threat in SL...

It makes sense on the assumptions that it is the largest friendly non-faction hub in Northrend.
There are obviously other options. But most would either be former hostile locations like the Scarlet Crusader areas. ICC. Or Vrykul areas. Or Faction hubs like Valiance Keep.

The only other strong possibility would be Wyrmrest temple, which I somehow doubt given it is basically a Dragon hub. And while Iridikron is likely to be a big presence. He isn't so big it justifies what would in many ways be Valdrakken again.

[Nymrohd]

Btw it seems almost certain Gallywix has a secret phase for Mythic given the journal. Maybe we'll find out something new there?

[Khaza-R]

It makes sense on the assumptions that it is the largest friendly non-faction hub in Northrend.
There are obviously other options. But most would either be former hostile locations like the Scarlet Crusader areas. ICC. Or Vrykul areas. Or Faction hubs like Valiance Keep.

The only other strong possibility would be Wyrmrest temple, which I somehow doubt given it is basically a Dragon hub. And while Iridikron is likely to be a big presence. He isn't so big it justifies what would in many ways be Valdrakken again.

If Vrykul are the AR of TLT then I would imagine Utgarde will be the new hub.

[Cheezits]

If Vrykul are the AR of TLT then I would imagine Utgarde will be the new hub.

Yeah I think the Vrykul civil warring over siding with Odyn versus Tyr (and us) will be a huge factor of the story, maybe the biggest marketing thing to make the expansion feel very nordic and Ragnaroky.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

If Vrykul are the AR of TLT

As much as I love the whole Vikings thing, it would be a bit annoying if the Alliance got another human... The worst thing for them is that they're only in the Horde hehehe. On the other hand, I'm not against trolls at all if they're the tough ones :



I want the wolvars too!

[Joshuaj]

As much as I love the whole Vikings thing, it would be a bit annoying if the Alliance got another human... The worst thing for them is that they're only in the Horde hehehe. On the other hand, I'm not against trolls at all if they're the tough ones :



I want the wolvars too!

I was thinking Forest Trolls could be the Midnight allied race ngl. Their blue skins could be a TLT customization unlock.

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And since TLT is about the Titans, Vrykul NOT being the allied race for that expac would shock me.

[Kiivar86]

I would be really surprised if forest trolls aren't an allied race in Midnight. They're sure to be involved at least somewhat with what's going on there, and it'd mirror the Earthen being an Allied Race for TWW.

[JohnnyCasual]

And since TLT is about the Titans, Vrykul NOT being the allied race for that expac would shock me.

Then be prepared to be shocked because they are not giving us playable giants. I think the Kul-Tirans were meant to be the middle ground of "big humans" because they are head height with the trolls and tauren and that is already pushing it.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

I was thinking Forest Trolls could be the Midnight allied race ngl. Their blue skins could be a TLT customization unlock.

Yeah, why not, if they're as big and muscular to differentiate them from darkspear trolls. But if I had to choose, I'd prefer the ethereals for Midnight tbh.

And since TLT is about the Titans, Vrykul NOT being the allied race for that expac would shock me.

Yes, if they miss the mark and don't give the vrykuls, I'd be shocked too. Like, after all these years it'll probably be the last chance to get them. Don't screw up Blizz. If we have them, I absolutely must have the iron vrykuls too !

Then be prepared to be shocked because they are not giving us playable giants. I think the Kul-Tirans were meant to be the middle ground of "big humans" because they are head height with the trolls and tauren and that is already pushing it.

Not all vrykuls are so huge. There are plenty of reasonably-sized NPCs. It seems to me that the biggest race at the moment are the dracthyrs, who are awfully big compared to other races. Their size would be perfect for playable vrykuls. It's the same for ogres.

[Khaza-R]

I would be really surprised if forest trolls aren't an allied race in Midnight. They're sure to be involved at least somewhat with what's going on there, and it'd mirror the Earthen being an Allied Race for TWW.

While I really want them to be a strong focus of Midnight, I would hate if they became an allied race. Only because regular trolls were already so diminished by the Zandalari. Can you imagine the last 7 players of this race after Forest trolls get better models, customizations, and lore?

Then be prepared to be shocked because they are not giving us playable giants. I think the Kul-Tirans were meant to be the middle ground of "big humans" because they are head height with the trolls and tauren and that is already pushing it.

Really don't see how this would matter at all. Like 99.9% of the game is wide open corridors. Just give them a unique duck animation and you're good.

[Sauredfangs]

Dance Studio for 13.0

[Joshuaj]

Then be prepared to be shocked because they are not giving us playable giants. I think the Kul-Tirans were meant to be the middle ground of "big humans" because they are head height with the trolls and tauren and that is already pushing it.

They said no playable Titans or anything like that. You can easily find a middle ground for Vrykul tho ngl.

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Dance Studio for 13.0

Inb4 you get a dance studio customization option for player housing.

[Hitei]

Btw it seems almost certain Gallywix has a secret phase for Mythic given the journal. Maybe we'll find out something new there?

Dreadlord phase.

[Joshuaj]

Dreadlord phase.

Please no. Let Gallywix just be a douchebag.

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Btw it seems almost certain Gallywix has a secret phase for Mythic given the journal. Maybe we'll find out something new there?

Void Mech! Trust!

[Auxis]

Please no. Let Gallywix just be a douchebag.

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Void Mech! Trust!

Secret phase where he mixes a store of Azerite he's been hoarding and the Void he's gotten from Xal in a mech!!