The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

Wait what?

Most likely down to Darkarath mistakenly assuming most others have the same niche interests as themself. Hardcore collectors that would actually care about such matters are rare, so it just isn't a relevant issue.

People really need to get it in their heads that most others don't have the same worldview and interests as them, even close peers.

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So I guess we shouldn't be expecting a 10.3?

I'd say to little information at this point.

[Xilurm]

Why is that?

Well actually nvm. I was under the impression 10.2 is coming next year way after winter but I was wrong.

They used to announce expansions just before the last patch of the current expansion in the past. According to the roadmap 10.2 is going to be Fall/Winter right? So most likely after Blizzcon. 10.3 would have to be in Spring.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Why is that?

Its some assumption going on. I assume no


And would hope its happening.

[Ersula]

Chromie time is not that much work and what work was done was worth it for the years it was active. bad take imo.

They had to implement a system to accurately level scale every creature in the game. Much of which had to be done manually. It was the result of 4+ years of work. You are wrong. There is literally no practical reason to create a new 1-60 leveling experience when chromie time itself makes a new leveling system out of each previous expansion.

[Cheezits]

I can see there being a 10.3 and also there not being one. The tree is clearly going to be a big patch, likely larger in scope than 10.1 with up to three incarnates to fight.

I was thinking Iridikron would use Galakrond's decay on himself, but maybe he will infuse Vyranoth? This would make sense considering the new book that ties her to Alex as a friend: maybe he doesn't trust her, and forcibly turns her into Alex's polar opposite (Aspect of Decay vs Life)

Then if we fight her and Fyrakk in the Tree, Iridkron is left to fight Tyr.

However if they want Iridi to be the Decay guy, there's no better place to fight and kill him then the Tree.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I have a hard time believing that the 2024 Roadmap reveal will be a negative based on the fact that they made a off-hand comment that it was positive news for said roadmap in a WoWCast.

This coming from me should tell you how little I believe that the 3 Major Patch Cadence standard will be removed.

Obviously, I don't know and I could be wrong. But, yeah we will not know until the 2024 Roadmap is revealed later this year.

[Cheezits]

I have a hard time believing that the 2024 Roadmap reveal will be a negative based on the fact that they made a off-hand comment that it was positive news for said roadmap in a WoWCast.

This coming from me should tell you how little I believe that the 3 Major Patch Cadence standard will be removed.

Obviously, I don't know and I could be wrong. But, yeah we will not know until the 2024 Roadmap is revealed later this year.

WoW is also the biggest thing again now that OW2 campaign has been downsized and D4 is out. Besides the survival game.

I think it was the first game mentioned in a recent press release?

[Telogrus]

DF is actually the perfect expansion to lead into a world revamp. We know the Primalists want to return Azeroth to its primal state, so they’d obviously have to shatter the Elemental Planes to do so. Maybe Ra created the Elemental Planes by creating a facility known as Uldaz which supplies the power needed to maintain a barrier between reality and the artificial dimensions known as the Elemental Planes, and Iridikron will assault Uldaz in 10.3 to shatter the barriers between Azeroth and the Elemental Planes and have them merge with Azeroth. This would obviously cause drastic changes to the world

[Khaza-R]

DF is actually the perfect expansion to lead into a world revamp. We know the Primalists want to return Azeroth to its primal state, so they’d obviously have to shatter the Elemental Planes to do so. Maybe Ra created the Elemental Planes by creating a facility known as Uldaz which supplies the power needed to maintain a barrier between reality and the artificial dimensions known as the Elemental Planes, and Iridikron will assault Uldaz in 10.3 to shatter the barriers between Azeroth and the Elemental Planes and have them merge with Azeroth. This would obviously cause drastic changes to the world

Eh. If they did a revamp I really don't want to see Cataclysm 2.0. I would rather see things rebuilt and developed over the years. The gimmicky elemental destruction stuff like the twisters in Westfall or the random ass volcano in Ashenvale did not age well and it would be a complete mistake to repeat this again.

[Cheezits]

Speaking of Uldaz, does anyone else think the last zone/raid won't be on the Isles? We've kind of run out of space with the tree, and the "corner of the map zone" is Zaralek.

[Darkarath]

This is such a weird take, I don't even know where to start. Since the moment I began to visit this forum I have never seen someone say "too many collectibles, it scares new players away and kills the game" nor I have seen a new player complaining about it. You think they fire the game for the first time and go like, "oh boy, time to collect pets/mounts!". You good sir joined the ranks of "transmog/LFR/flying/CRZ is killing the game" crowd.

Collectibles is just one of the many problems of WoW. Yes there are too many and at this point they are pointless. And hell yes is going to keep players away from the game.

If you do such thing there would not be a clean start. Players would feel that they are starting a new game with a disadvantage of hundreds of collectibles. In a new game. Do you realise how stupid doing something like that would be?

Collectibles is just a part of a bigger problem, the game being too big and driving players away because why they would bother with a 20 year old game with so many content and so many systems and so much story that they do not know about? But wait, lets start over but keep the rewards of 20 years of content.

I might be wrong but IMO something like that sounds really stupid. I would bet money on a lot of players feeling in the same position as they feel now regarding WoW if they do something like that with WoW 2.0 in whatever form it might be.

[Kiivar86]

If you join a 20 year old game, one should expect there to be a lot of items and collectibles. To think otherwise is silly.

And the idea of potentially pissing off veteran players for possible newcomers who likely won't even stick around is a bad idea.

[Cheezits]

I have NEVER heard of too much collectibles being an issue for anyone, especially when the associated content isn't mandatory.

100% mount collectors are fewer in number than RPers.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Collectables aren't going to be the thing that damages the game. *Scratches forehead* and a game being big doesn't exactly stop XIV either. Honestly, its not as relevant as people think. The leveling experience as much as I don't think its bad, at least there is SOME sense in it(The leveling and how fast/slow it is criticism). And one last thing switching over to a new engine isn't just take the old one and putting a new one in.

[Darkarath]

Collectables aren't going to be the thing that damages the game. *Scratches forehead* and a game being big doesn't exactly stop XIV either. Honestly, its not as relevant as people think. The leveling experience as much as I don't think its bad, at least there is SOME sense in it(The leveling and how fast/slow it is criticism). And one last thing switching over to a new engine isn't just take the old one and putting a new one in.

FFXIV is a very different beast:

- Focus in a good story with a good narrative and developed characters.

- Plays practically like a single player game.

- Not a lot of systems, well explained and clear.

- Much more casual than WoW.

- Much younger than WoW.

[Lady Atia]

Collectables aren't going to be the thing that damages the game. *Scratches forehead* and a game being big doesn't exactly stop XIV either. Honestly, its not as relevant as people think. The leveling experience as much as I don't think its bad, at least there is SOME sense in it(The leveling and how fast/slow it is criticism). And one last thing switching over to a new engine isn't just take the old one and putting a new one in.

Yeah, collectibles are actually the reason this game survived so long lol.

The only thing that makes sense though at this stage is to re-release every old cosmetic so that new players aren't turned off when they see cool stuff that they can't get anymore - which is something they seem to tackle already. Btw, I can guarantee you that PvP would get a huge boost of new active players if they would bring in solo q for rbg's / random bg's with rating aswell as elite sets and gladiator mounts from expansions older than the last three via viscious saddles (which would be in the same league as mythic raids being solo-able after 3 expansions .... it's 2023, there is literally no need to give pvp players the special snowflake treadment anymore, especially as it's a dying mode and re-releasing old fomo stuff would bring quite a lot players to actually play rated pvp again).

[Fahrad Wagner]

Please accept me as apart of your following, WoW needs a massive shake up and a revamp is definitely needed imho.

Welcome my child, to our fellowship.

We're in the endgame now buahahah

YESSSSSSS

Count me in for team world revamp. Definitely think its time to remove those dusty cataclysm quests.

Let's gooooooooooooooo!

[micwini]

Didnt we have the same thing before DF when all content creators were making videos about "DRAGON ISLES NEXT EXPANSION!!!!"? Same thing for Shadowlands iirc. This could certainly be it.

[Raetary]

So, with 10.1.5 next week, when do we expect the 10.2 reveal?

[Lady Atia]

So, with 10.1.5 next week, when do we expect the 10.2 reveal?

We have a news chat scheduled for Thursday I think.