The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joshuaj]

How does it make sense for the black blood to corrupt the world soul, when the old gods during the time of the black empire were not able to do that?

Except they very much were lmaooo. Why do you think they were rooted in the planet? Why do you think N'Zoth needed the Chamber of Heart?

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Get absolutely god damn hyped?

Can't deny this is the craziest thing I think I've ever seen if this actually isn't just strings that are being misinterpreted or old and don't lead anywhere.

If this actually gets implemented, oh boy.

[Nize]

Can't deny this is the craziest thing I think I've ever seen if this actually isn't just strings that are being misinterpreted or old and don't lead anywhere.

If this actually gets implemented, oh boy.

I was just talking to my friend the other day how annoying naming in WoW is compared to FF14 and how much I would love to have first name last names in WoW. Here's hoping.

[huth]

How does it make sense for the black blood to corrupt the world soul, when the old gods during the time of the black empire were not able to do that?

You're forgetting that they were busy beating each other up over who gets to do it and may well have been dragging their tentacles about the matter on account of the result not exactly being in their personal interest what with there being some suggestion succeeding would actually result in their end as individuals.

[Golden Yak]

With the Black Blood being a continued focus this expac, I think 11.2 will primarily focus on that and it potentially being used to corrupt the Worldcore.

I'm thinking the same thing!

I didn't expect the swerve with the Dark Heart being taken, but it might drive Xal'atath to try and use the Black Blood alone in an attempt to take the Worldsoul.

[Hitei]

I'm thinking the same thing!

I didn't expect the swerve with the Dark Heart being taken, but it might drive Xal'atath to try and use the Black Blood alone in an attempt to take the Worldsoul.

Or she'll simply decide to use it to cut her losses. The nerubians didn't work out, the goblins didn't. Unless she can rally the kobyss and undersea forces, she's largely out of forces in the region. It's possible without the Dark Heart she'll just decide this entire approach is a lost cause, unleash the blood as a final "fuck you", and then leave to go try and get the Heart back or otherwise swap over to the full Void planar invasion angle.

We know that she's still going to be around in Midnight, so 11.2 doesn't necessarily need her around a bunch. She might just leave a mess for us to clean up and then come back in 12.0 with a new, much more cosmic void approach.

[Cheezits]

Honestly I wouldn't mind if the "Xal is here the whole saga lol" thing was a straight up lie considering the good twists in TWW so far. It would be fun to see Dimensius eat her at the end of this expansion. Or maybe she is a part of Dimensiis that he needs to absorb to become whole.

But I think she will be a weird ally of some kind in TLT. That or she's just chilling at the World Soul until the very end.

[huth]

Or she'll simply decide to use it to cut her losses. The nerubians didn't work out, the goblins didn't. Unless she can rally the kobyss and undersea forces, she's largely out of forces in the region. It's possible without the Dark Heart she'll just decide this entire approach is a lost cause, unleash the blood as a final "fuck you", and then leave to go try and get the Heart back or otherwise swap over to the full Void planar invasion angle.

We know that she's still going to be around in Midnight, so 11.2 doesn't necessarily need her around a bunch. She might just leave a mess for us to clean up and then come back in 12.0 with a new, much more cosmic void approach.

Or the mess already exists and she just exits stage left while we're busy cleaning up and trying to figure out where she went.

[Mackud]

Or she'll simply decide to use it to cut her losses. The nerubians didn't work out, the goblins didn't. Unless she can rally the kobyss and undersea forces, she's largely out of forces in the region.

Hence why she's off to Quel'Thelas where the King Daddy of all C'thraxxi's is currently buried.

Currently habitated by a very vengeful aggressive troll faction and they thought it was a good idea to build their home structure over it.

Wouldn't be surprised if they summoned all the loa's for good measure, joined by the Gurubashi - Bwomsandi predicted the Gurubashi would succeed in another Hakkar summoning, so i wouldn't rule that out either.

There is going to be alot of Troll lore in the opening stage of Midnight regardless rather than straight into the K'aresh stuff as the main setting the Northern Eastern Kingdoms is also home 2 major Troll factions - 1 neutral and 1 hostile

They said some zone revamps are coming and Hinterlands is very likely to be one of them because of how dated it is now with the Wildhammers being part of the Council and the Horde quest hub Troll faction aren't even affiliated with the Horde hence why they don't have a reputation attached to them - They're politically neutral so they'll serve as the zone faction

[Enrif]

Except they very much were lmaooo. Why do you think they were rooted in the planet? Why do you think N'Zoth needed the Chamber of Heart?

I'm not talking about BfA. I mean the time the old gods ruled over the planet before the titans arrived. The old gods had millenia time to corrupt the world soul and did not succeed with it. But now, out of nothing, their blood is a threat in a much shorter time frame?

That doesn't add up.

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You're forgetting that they were busy beating each other up over who gets to do it and may well have been dragging their tentacles about the matter on account of the result not exactly being in their personal interest what with there being some suggestion succeeding would actually result in their end as individuals.

Even if there would have been infighting, they head millenia time to dig deep enough to just get it when the titans arrived, but they didn't. And we know from Yogg-Saron that his Saronite blood was everywhere beneath Northrend. So, the black blood will succed where 4/5 old gods failed for millenia? Even considering infighting, they at last should have been ready the moment the titans arrived, as they had a long time to dig deep into the planet and the war of the titanforged was not a quick one.

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The black blood is more a threat to the creaatures living there, not so much for the world soul

[Hitei]

Even if there would have been infighting, they head millenia time to dig deep enough to just get it when the titans arrived, but they didn't. And we know from Yogg-Saron that his Saronite blood was everywhere beneath Northrend. So, the black blood will succed where 4/5 old gods failed for millenia? Even considering infighting, they at last should have been ready the moment the titans arrived, as they had a long time to dig deep into the planet and the war of the titanforged was not a quick one.

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The black blood is more a threat to the creaatures living there, not so much for the world soul

4 of the 5 Old Gods were in relatively unimportant locations. What makes Khaz Algar particularly dangerous in our current time is that there are potentially two separate direct paths to the worldsoul. If we assume that Azeroth is similar in size to the earth and that the worldsoul section or chamber or whatever, is similar in scale to our planets inner core, then the Old Gods during the Black Empire would need to dig/stretch their way several thousand miles downwards and past whatever innate defenses or resistance Azeroth has.

The danger of the blood here and now is that it's a threat to the roots of Elun'ahir, and whatever those roots are connected to, including potentially the worldsoul. The Old Gods were essentially a cancer on Azeroth. Which makes the Roots a vector for metastasis.

[Super Dickmann]

Even if there would have been infighting, they head millenia time to dig deep enough to just get it when the titans arrived, but they didn't. And we know from Yogg-Saron that his Saronite blood was everywhere beneath Northrend. So, the black blood will succed where 4/5 old gods failed for millenia? Even considering infighting, they at last should have been ready the moment the titans arrived, as they had a long time to dig deep into the planet and the war of the titanforged was not a quick one.

They're not a united force except against external threats. The goal of the individual Old God is not to secure a victory for their color of kool-aid's corresponding cosmic power, but to infest that world themselves. They didn't fail in so much as for much of the time they didn't try, having first fought each other, then being in prison. When one of them does get wholly free on-screen and all his competition is dead N'zoth goes for the worldsoul immediately and only narrowly loses out due to overlapping plot devices (Magni being able to arm the laser + the cloak - Xal'atath's container), without any one of which he would've won.

[Joshuaj]

Honestly I wouldn't mind if the "Xal is here the whole saga lol" thing was a straight up lie considering the good twists in TWW so far. It would be fun to see Dimensius eat her at the end of this expansion. Or maybe she is a part of Dimensiis that he needs to absorb to become whole.

But I think she will be a weird ally of some kind in TLT. That or she's just chilling at the World Soul until the very end.

Imagine if Dimensius consumes Xal'atath at the end of TWW, but she is still around within the Void Lord, thus giving players a hint for things to come, like maybe Dimensius is trying to "devour" and become one with the Worldsoul of K'aresh, and it is thus trying to "devour" Azeroth as the endgoal for Midnight.

That would be cool imo, and maybe Dimensius could be defeated not just from its battle with us and the Light, but also from the idea that it devoured too much, ya know? Like all this Worldsoul power is so vast and crazy, that even non existence can't handle it. Would be badass imo.

The final boss of Midnight might just be K'aresh tho ngl, as I'm unsure Blizzard will have us fight Dimensius this soon. However, if they do, I'll be hyped asf.

Regardless, it's either K'aresh or Dimensius for the last boss of Midnight. Anyone else would be a disappointment.

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I'm not talking about BfA. I mean the time the old gods ruled over the planet before the titans arrived. The old gods had millenia time to corrupt the world soul and did not succeed with it. But now, out of nothing, their blood is a threat in a much shorter time frame?

That doesn't add up.

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Even if there would have been infighting, they head millenia time to dig deep enough to just get it when the titans arrived, but they didn't. And we know from Yogg-Saron that his Saronite blood was everywhere beneath Northrend. So, the black blood will succed where 4/5 old gods failed for millenia? Even considering infighting, they at last should have been ready the moment the titans arrived, as they had a long time to dig deep into the planet and the war of the titanforged was not a quick one.

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The black blood is more a threat to the creaatures living there, not so much for the world soul

Tbf here, the Old Gods were fighting amongst themselves a ton, and not just that, Elun'ahir is within Khaz'Algar, and Khaz'Algar houses the Coreway, and the Coreway leads to the Worldcore, and the Worldcore is placed atop, you guessed it, the Worldsoul of Azeroth. So...yeah, things are different here.

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4 of the 5 Old Gods were in relatively unimportant locations. What makes Khaz Algar particularly dangerous in our current time is that there are potentially two separate direct paths to the worldsoul. If we assume that Azeroth is similar in size to the earth and that the worldsoul section or chamber or whatever, is similar in scale to our planets inner core, then the Old Gods during the Black Empire would need to dig/stretch their way several thousand miles downwards and past whatever innate defenses or resistance Azeroth has.

The danger of the blood here and now is that it's a threat to the roots of Elun'ahir, and whatever those roots are connected to, including potentially the worldsoul. The Old Gods were essentially a cancer on Azeroth. Which makes the Roots a vector for metastasis.

W points fr.

[Nymrohd]

The black blood is more a threat to the creaatures living there, not so much for the world soul

Did we forget WHY we went to Khaz Algar? The World Soul is screaming at us. Locus Walker told us what it means.

[Super Dickmann]

Did we forget WHY we went to Khaz Algar? The World Soul is screaming at us. Locus Walker told us what it means.

To be fair we did get sidetracked with the whole spider business and running Nascar. Our only direct link to this plot after Magni's remeatifying is Orweyna and the girl's lived in a cave her whole life so she's both socially inept and uneducated and so can't properly interpret what to do.

[Dracullus]

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I did this math few months ago on this thread. Patches don't last "around 8 weeks". They last EXACTLY 8 weeks on average since October 25th '22 when DF pre-patch started until 11.0.7 launch.

Of course I talk about average, pre-patches lasted 5 weeks instead of 8, few patches take few weeks longer - but that's precise too, 10.2 and 11.0.7 lasted 10 weeks and Christmas break take 2 weeks. Shorter 10.0.7 and longer 11.1 was 99% done to make room for Diablo 4 release.

So yeah, it's not hard to estimate rough timeline for future expacs (course always something can fuck up), but still it won't give you exact dates. So, assuming Saga expacs both has 10 patches (pre-patch, 3 patches for each season), MD is early March '26, TLT is late September '27.

[Nymrohd]

To be fair we did get sidetracked with the whole spider business and running Nascar. Our only direct link to this plot after Magni's remeatifying is Orweyna and the girl's lived in a cave her whole life so she's both socially inept and uneducated and so can't properly interpret what to do.

I mean it wouldn't be the first time we start an expansion with a real crisis and completely forget about it by the end . . .
"What sword"???

[Super Dickmann]

I mean it wouldn't be the first time we start an expansion with a real crisis and completely forget about it by the end . . .
"What sword"???

It wouldn't even be the first expansion about Azeroth's open woons starting at the sword that does this sidetrack.

[Dracullus]

Worldcore/Rootlands or Karesh, I think it's very safe to assume Ethereals will be main enemies just like nerubians in S1 and goblins in S2, too many stuff point on that.

[Limayria]

I'm still thinking we're going to fight Etherals in the rootlands, and that will be a vector to k'aresh, which will be a zone in midnight and is now being set up some so it feels like less of an ass pull to players who've never heard of it before